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Would you buy a Charger Hellcat over the Challenger Hellcat if it were two door?

Started by hatersaurusrex, August 15, 2014, 06:52:07 PM

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For the guys considering the Chally Hellcat, would a 2-door charger version change your mind?

Yes
6 (16.7%)
No
24 (66.7%)
I wouldn't buy a Chally Hellcat, but a 2 door Charger Hellcat would make me open my wallet
1 (2.8%)
I'd take a 2-door Charger over any Challenger, Hellcat or not
5 (13.9%)

Total Members Voted: 36

hatersaurusrex

After looking at the press on the Charger Hellcat, it made me wonder if we - the Charger purists - would take a 2-door Charger Hellcat over a Challenger Hellcat, all else being equal.
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odcics2

Good question. It was already stated in the video that there is no business case for the Charger Hellcat.
How do you put a price on all the talk about it so far????   The internet is flooded with it! 
Nice marketing, Dodge Boys.

They will sell a ton, 4 doors or not, IMO.  There are a lot of rollers out there. One or two on this site!!    :2thumbs:
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

ws23rt

The reason I will buy the challenger is I prefer the true to the original challenger look.  I will go further and say IMO it is a substantial improvement over the original.

The charger is a great looking car and if all they did was make a two door version it's not enough to move me.  A body style change that reminded me of the sec. gen. charger could do it if done as well as the challenger.

1974dodgecharger

In all honesty how many are gonna buy it? We all talk like we r but u watch we will come up with an excuse not too.  I was offered 40k for my car so i could buy a hellcat challenger, but its all talk aint it.

myk

Even if I could do a trade for BOTH hellcats for my '69 I wouldn't do it. I can't speak to the state of mind of everyone else in here...

1974dodgecharger

It's a power craze right now....once they get it it won't be the same charger we all grown to love.....it's like buying a civic and putting a k20 in it and turbo and have 600hp on a 2000lb car....it's fast but end of the day it's still a civic.

Mytur Binsdirti

Actually, if they would have put a 6-speed in the Hellcat Charger, i would seriously have to consider cancelling my Challenger order.

Dino

I must be the odd man out but I couldn't care less about either cars.  The drivetrain is so over the top I would never use more than a third of it, if that, and neither body style is appealing to me.  If I was forced to pick one it would have to be the Challenger, the Charger is just too damn ugly no matter how you look at it.  Not a fan of the Challenger either though, I just don't see the attraction.
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1974dodgecharger

Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on August 16, 2014, 05:43:04 AM
Actually, if they would have put a 6-speed in the Hellcat Charger, i would seriously have to consider cancelling my Challenger order.

Well u will never get it, Tom kunis said so....said there is demand for a manual in a sedan.

Indygenerallee

I won't be getting either but if I had to choose it would be the Charger Hellcat (The Challenger Hellcat just looks too blocky in the front fascia for myself personally... Plus the Charger is faster! :coolgleamA:)
Sold my Charger unfortunately....never got it finished.

Lighthorseman

Sigh.  If I could get a Hellcat Charger with a manual transmission and all-wheel drive, I'd be all over it.

JB400


bill440rt

Doesn't need to be a 2-door for me. I like the Charger, and quite honestly I don't need another 2-door car.
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BrianShaughnessy

Some people really need to get over the 4 door thing.    2 door is NEVER gonna happen.   

I actually prefer the Charger over the Challenger...  Hellcat or not but I'm not gonna drop $60K on anything.   

Black Betty:  1969 Charger R/T - X9 440 six pack, TKO600 5 speed, 3.73 Dana 60.
Sinnamon:  1969 Charger R/T - T5 440, 727, 3.23 8 3/4 high school sweetheart.

odcics2

Quote from: BrianShaughnessy on August 17, 2014, 07:15:52 AM
Some people really need to get over the 4 door thing.    2 door is NEVER gonna happen.   

I actually prefer the Charger over the Challenger...  Hellcat or not but I'm not gonna drop $60K on anything.   



The Charger looks clean and modern, plain and simple. The Challenger looks, well, old!!
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

Ghoste

I like the styling of the Challenger better but not because of the number of doors, I just prefer the looks of it.  If they hadn't given the Charger Dart taillights I would likely prefer the other way around.  One little detail but.  :shruggy:

JB400


odcics2

Quote from: Ghoste on August 17, 2014, 09:44:57 PM
I like the styling of the Challenger better but not because of the number of doors, I just prefer the looks of it.  If they hadn't given the Charger Dart taillights I would likely prefer the other way around.  One little detail but.  :shruggy:

Looks like the tail lights are modern versions of the Intrepid...  :scratchchin: 
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

1974dodgecharger

Quote from: JB400 on August 18, 2014, 02:08:50 AM
Let the guy behind you worry about what the tail lights look like

I love it when someone saids this and I tell them, 'get a civic with a K20 with supercharger with over 600HP' then they change their attitude. 


1974dodgecharger

Quote from: Dino on August 16, 2014, 08:55:31 AM
I must be the odd man out but I couldn't care less about either cars.  The drivetrain is so over the top I would never use more than a third of it, if that, and neither body style is appealing to me.  If I was forced to pick one it would have to be the Challenger, the Charger is just too damn ugly no matter how you look at it.  Not a fan of the Challenger either though, I just don't see the attraction.

people are blinded by what they like....if you ask the same person if the car said, 'intrepid SRT' would they buy it?  you be surprised when they see charger they  think of 'fast and furious' and so they think they are driving such car.  its just a name on a car that has no legacy of its former self.....

Ghoste

Quote from: JB400 on August 18, 2014, 02:08:50 AM
Let the guy behind you worry about what the tail lights look like

For that kind of coin?  If I didn't care about looks and just wanted fast I wouldn't be on this board in the first place, I'd be on a forum for shoehorning monster motors into Neons. 

Cooter

Hellcat in ANY form is not a muscle car. It's a rich man's 'super car. So...no.
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

myk

Quote from: Dino on August 16, 2014, 08:55:31 AM
I must be the odd man out but I couldn't care less about either cars.  The drivetrain is so over the top I would never use more than a third of it, if that, and neither body style is appealing to me.  If I was forced to pick one it would have to be the Challenger, the Charger is just too damn ugly no matter how you look at it.  Not a fan of the Challenger either though, I just don't see the attraction.

Nah, you're not the only one...

68charger440

For me the new Chargers are a decent looking car, but not really a Charger. I like the fact that with the Challenger and for that matter the Mustangs and Camaros you could take them back to the 1970s and everyone would think that they were the next gen of each car.  With the new Chargers many people would not be able to make that leap.  I would love to see them make a new Charger in the same vane as those others with the 2nd generation Charger as the inspiration, and 2 doors for me is a must.
When someone is absolutely 100% sure they know exactly what your problem is and how to fix it, it's time to ask someone else!

Ghoste

I can accept the Charger as a sedan but they just can't quite nail it for me with styling.  They get close but there is always some feature that just leaves me cold.

6spd68

Quote from: Dino on August 16, 2014, 08:55:31 AM
the Charger is just too damn ugly no matter how you look at it.

Have been saying this since they first revealed them in 2004
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1968 Dodge Charger (318 Car)
Projected Driveline:
383 with mild stroke
Carb intake w/Holley 750 VS

6-Speed Dodge Viper Transmission

Fully rebuilt Dana-60 w/Motive gears. 3.55 Posi, Yukon axles.

Finished in triple black. 

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68charger440

Quote from: Ghoste on August 19, 2014, 11:23:36 AM
I can accept the Charger as a sedan but they just can't quite nail it for me with styling.  They get close but there is always some feature that just leaves me cold.
I agree, and for that matter they missed the mark a little on the chally also, but they got that one much closer than the Charger as far as my taste goes.  I always thought the next gen after the 2nd gen Charger should have had 6" taken out of each of the front, mid, and the rear sections making it more into a pony car size.  I always thought the straight on side view was the least flattering because of the stretched out look from that angle.
When someone is absolutely 100% sure they know exactly what your problem is and how to fix it, it's time to ask someone else!

GOTWING


Ghoste


Troy

Quote from: Ghoste on August 19, 2014, 01:49:31 PM
Find another dealer and let them choke on it.
Exactly! :iagree: Who says you have to buy from the closest dealer to you?

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

odcics2

I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

Ghoste


stripedelete

Quote from: myk on August 18, 2014, 11:52:10 AM
Quote from: Dino on August 16, 2014, 08:55:31 AM
I must be the odd man out but I couldn't care less about either cars.  The drivetrain is so over the top I would never use more than a third of it, if that, and neither body style is appealing to me.  If I was forced to pick one it would have to be the Challenger, the Charger is just too damn ugly no matter how you look at it.  Not a fan of the Challenger either though, I just don't see the attraction.

Nah, you're not the only one...

Right with you.   But, if you put a gun to my head, it would be a mustang convertible.

TUFCAT


68charger440

When someone is absolutely 100% sure they know exactly what your problem is and how to fix it, it's time to ask someone else!

Paul G

The Hellcat is nothing more than bragging rights. Do I want one, Absolutely. Will I buy one, no. The Hellcat will sell more cars for the brand. That is the point. It's not like Chrysler had to spend Gazillion $$ to design a new supercar that few would buy anyway. They already have that, Viper. They did a little tweeking to a platform they already had and built something that will be the king of the hill for a long time.

Winged warrior all over again you think? I think. There will be a demand for them, (Hellcat), by the people who can afford to make a $60,000 + purchase and sit on it. Take it out once in a while and enjoy it. It wont be your daily driver. Years from now it will be what the Hemi and winged cars are today. I wish I could buy one with my 401K funds.   

I am very impressed by what Chrysler is doing. To make a 200 MPH, 707 HP coupe and sedan, and price it reasonably. WTF were they thinking? My hats off to Chrysler. It's a game changer. You know Frod and GM are wondering how they are going to handle this? Compete with Hellcat or ignore it?
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Paul G

The thing that makes me chuckle is the statement in one of the unveiling videos. "The Hellcat Charger at full power will drain the fuel tank in 12 minutes". That is just awesome! And they upsized the fuel line to 1/2 ID.
1972 Charger Topper Special, 360ci, 46RH OD trans, 8 3/4 sure grip with 3.91 gear, 14.93@92 mph.
1973 Charger Rallye, 4 speed, muscle rat. Whatever engine right now?

Mopars Unlimited of Arizona

http://www.moparsaz.com/#

myk

Quote from: stripedelete on August 20, 2014, 01:01:44 PM
Quote from: myk on August 18, 2014, 11:52:10 AM
Quote from: Dino on August 16, 2014, 08:55:31 AM
I must be the odd man out but I couldn't care less about either cars.  The drivetrain is so over the top I would never use more than a third of it, if that, and neither body style is appealing to me.  If I was forced to pick one it would have to be the Challenger, the Charger is just too damn ugly no matter how you look at it.  Not a fan of the Challenger either though, I just don't see the attraction.

Nah, you're not the only one...
Right with you.   But, if you put a gun to my head, it would be a mustang convertible.

I absolutely ADORE the new 5.0...

Aero426

Quote from: Paul G on August 21, 2014, 10:42:57 PM

Winged warrior all over again you think? I think. There will be a demand for them, (Hellcat), by the people who can afford to make a $60,000 + purchase and sit on it. Take it out once in a while and enjoy it. It wont be your daily driver. Years from now it will be what the Hemi and winged cars are today. I wish I could buy one with my 401K funds.   

Ask the first generation Viper owners how that strategy worked out for them.   Nothing is guaranteed.     

Ghoste


Aero426

Quote from: Ghoste on August 23, 2014, 11:23:49 AM
Throw in 25th Anniversary Vettes and Eldorado drop tops too.

Think back just ten years to when the Viper hit 500 horsepower.  FIVE HUNDRED!    That was a milestone number.    People wondered how could it possibly go higher on a mass produced car from the dealer?     And now here we are.    It's hard to have a crystal ball to determine when the music is going to stop.   


Ghoste

Who would have thought the Hemi and LS6 could be topped?  You're right Doug and there is no determining what will be a future collectible, especially the ones we all think are obvious.

68charger440

Quote from: Ghoste on August 23, 2014, 11:37:31 AM
Who would have thought the Hemi and LS6 could be topped?  You're right Doug and there is no determining what will be a future collectible, especially the ones we all think are obvious.
For the majority of us its not about the future value of the car, its about a love of the car.  I have no sympathy for those who bought a 1st gen Viper or any of the others as an investment and then they didn't hold their value.  Just like on wall street, you can win or loose, but if you love the car and buy it for that reason then you win even if the car looses value.  I would still be proud to have a 1st gen Viper in my collection because I thought they were a beautiful display of American muscle.
When someone is absolutely 100% sure they know exactly what your problem is and how to fix it, it's time to ask someone else!

Ghoste

Absolutely!  And that is the only reason you should buy any of them.

68charger440

Quote from: Ghoste on August 23, 2014, 01:58:37 PM
Absolutely!  And that is the only reason you should buy any of them.
To tell the truth I actually resent the deep pocketed collectors not because they are rich, but because they make it real hard for the rest of us to keep our beloved cars going.
When someone is absolutely 100% sure they know exactly what your problem is and how to fix it, it's time to ask someone else!

Ghoste


6spd68

Quote from: myk on August 23, 2014, 12:36:14 AM
Quote from: stripedelete on August 20, 2014, 01:01:44 PM
Quote from: myk on August 18, 2014, 11:52:10 AM
Quote from: Dino on August 16, 2014, 08:55:31 AM
I must be the odd man out but I couldn't care less about either cars.  The drivetrain is so over the top I would never use more than a third of it, if that, and neither body style is appealing to me.  If I was forced to pick one it would have to be the Challenger, the Charger is just too damn ugly no matter how you look at it.  Not a fan of the Challenger either though, I just don't see the attraction.

Nah, you're not the only one...
Right with you.   But, if you put a gun to my head, it would be a mustang convertible.

I absolutely ADORE the new 5.0...

Couldn't agree more, quite the driving experience.
Every great legend has it's humble beginning.
Project 668:
1968 Dodge Charger (318 Car)
Projected Driveline:
383 with mild stroke
Carb intake w/Holley 750 VS

6-Speed Dodge Viper Transmission

Fully rebuilt Dana-60 w/Motive gears. 3.55 Posi, Yukon axles.

Finished in triple black. 

ETA: "Some velvet morning, when I'm straight..."

RallyeMike

For various reasons I'm not buying any more new cars, ever.

I do wonder however, why they chose the name of hellcat. Cats are Mercury's, not Mopars!  :slap:
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Paul G

Quote from: RallyeMike on August 26, 2014, 11:43:58 AM

I do wonder however, why they chose the name of hellcat. Cats are Mercury's, not Mopars!  :slap:

WWII carrier based fighter aircraft. 2000 HP engine.
1972 Charger Topper Special, 360ci, 46RH OD trans, 8 3/4 sure grip with 3.91 gear, 14.93@92 mph.
1973 Charger Rallye, 4 speed, muscle rat. Whatever engine right now?

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Aero426

Quote from: 68charger440 on August 23, 2014, 02:17:45 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on August 23, 2014, 01:58:37 PM
Absolutely!  And that is the only reason you should buy any of them.
To tell the truth I actually resent the deep pocketed collectors not because they are rich, but because they make it real hard for the rest of us to keep our beloved cars going.

You need a few rich people to keep this old car gig going.  


RallyeMike

 
QuoteQuote from: RallyeMike on Today at 07:43:58 AM

I do wonder however, why they chose the name of hellcat. Cats are Mercury's, not Mopars!  slap

WWII carrier based fighter aircraft. 2000 HP engine.

Is that fact reported by Chrysler that they named it after the fight plane? There was also a hellcat tank destroyer, a hellcat action hero, and who knows what else .....

1970's "the sign of the Cat" = Mercury slogan, also as in the models of "Lynx", "Bobcat", "Cougar", etc.
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1972 Charger, Grand Sport #41
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Paul G

I remember hearing that on one of the you tube videos about the Chrysler Hellcat. I dont remember which one? You Tube videos, one leads to another and an hour passes?   
1972 Charger Topper Special, 360ci, 46RH OD trans, 8 3/4 sure grip with 3.91 gear, 14.93@92 mph.
1973 Charger Rallye, 4 speed, muscle rat. Whatever engine right now?

Mopars Unlimited of Arizona

http://www.moparsaz.com/#

6spd68

Quote from: Paul G on August 26, 2014, 07:05:28 PM
You Tube videos, one leads to another and an hour passes?   

Until you end up in that wierd part of YouTube that has nothing to do with what you were originally looking for.
Every great legend has it's humble beginning.
Project 668:
1968 Dodge Charger (318 Car)
Projected Driveline:
383 with mild stroke
Carb intake w/Holley 750 VS

6-Speed Dodge Viper Transmission

Fully rebuilt Dana-60 w/Motive gears. 3.55 Posi, Yukon axles.

Finished in triple black. 

ETA: "Some velvet morning, when I'm straight..."