WIW 69 500 Auto W AC

[nascarxx29]

My friend has had this since the mid 70s .And asked me today what do you think its worth

[hemi68charger]

Dave,
how's the interior?, does it still look like this ( old picture I believe )....... Original motor still there? Tranny? A/C components?

T

[nascarxx29]

Its been outside under a cover.Will need a interior redo etc.Got a 400 in it from prev owner.All original under hood AC system.I didnt check but maybe be orig trans.I passed on buying this car years before he had it . I Was going to daytona it.But the AC factor made me pass on it

[C500]

how rusty are the floors and quarters?

[ws23rt]

I'd like to add to the question.   Does the fact that it's a C500 make anymore difference today than it did say 10-15 years ago?

These seem to have been hiding their whole lives.   Something the Daytona could never do.

[69_500]

Personal opinion is that it would bring between $17-25k.
Good things it has going is the color, and the fact it is an A/C car.

Downsides is non numbers engine, not sure on trans. Does the car have fender tag? Odds are it does not have the right sheet. Rust is probably a bigger issue than it appears if it's been sitting outside under a tarp for that long.

Car would need a complete restoration, meaning a ball park figure on that would be between $45-75k. Figure once it was all done your looking at a $75-80k car tops being that it's not numbers matching.

As much as I love 500's, there is really no hope in doing OE style restorations on these cars unless they are Hemi cars, or maybe the SE cars that also have A/C. Otherwise your kind of fighting a losing battle.

[madgus2000]

Nice car, I would like to add it to my collection if possible, let me know how much you want for it, I am an intrested buyer.  Thanks

[Beep Beep Dave]

My friend has had this since the mid 70s .And asked me today what do you think its worth

That's a pretty good picture, did you get a new camera? Post up some more pics please.

Dave

[XS29LA47V21]

Personal opinion is that it would bring between $17-25k.
Good things it has going is the color, and the fact it is an A/C car.

Downsides is non numbers engine, not sure on trans. Does the car have fender tag? Odds are it does not have the right sheet. Rust is probably a bigger issue than it appears if it's been sitting outside under a tarp for that long.

Car would need a complete restoration, meaning a ball park figure on that would be between $45-75k. Figure once it was all done your looking at a $75-80k car tops being that it's not numbers matching.

As much as I love 500's, there is really no hope in doing OE style restorations on these cars unless they are Hemi cars, or maybe the SE cars that also have A/C. Otherwise your kind of fighting a losing battle.

FWIW, my perspective is close here.  A/C has value to a potential buy I think but on rarity not increased value (maybe).  If blue car I think it has more value than red ...... (to me).  Is it a red car repainted blue or is primer showing through on a b5?  In my general vague numbers half the 500s were either red or green.... blue would be nice on a 500 imo.  

[fc7_plumcrazy]

Hi,

if it is possible I would like to get more information about the B5 blue 500, too

Carsten

[nascarxx29]

Will see what pictures I can get .We did show Steve Juliano his car collection in 07-08
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,22753.0.html

[Ghoste]

Personal opinion is that it would bring between $17-25k.
Car would need a complete restoration, meaning a ball park figure on that would be between $45-75k. Figure once it was all done your looking at a $75-80k car tops being that it's not numbers matching.

As much as I love 500's, there is really no hope in doing OE style restorations on these cars unless they are Hemi cars, or maybe the SE cars that also have A/C. Otherwise your kind of fighting a losing battle.

Yes, definitely has to be because you love them.  If I were in aposition to take it on and were priced at 17, I'd do it.  I'd regret it if I ever looked ta the bills but I would try to make it nice again.  (non numbers make for great drivers)

[69_500]

Dave is there any way I could get the fender tag info on this car? I know we talked about this car several times but I do not have it in my spread sheet

[Ghoste]

If you don't then I don't either.

[nascarxx29]

another

[tan top]

  would buy it , if I had the dough 

[Mytur Binsdirti]

would buy it , if I had the dough 

I have some spare play money to spend. Where is it, how's the condition & most importantly; how much?

[tan top]

would buy it , if I had the dough  

I have some spare play money to spend. Where is it, how's the condition & most importantly; how much?

         Go get it MTD            ....

[white]

Is it an S.E 500?

[rainbow4jd]

I hate to say it, but its only real value is as a clone of a Daytona.    Otherwise, its a $20,000 something car or maybe less depending on condition.   I'd take any cash offer above $20K and let the next guy sink more money into than its worth.

[Davtona]

I hate to say it, but its only real value is as a clone of a Daytona.    Otherwise, its a $20,000 something car or maybe less depending on condition. 

Why? What makes an original 500 more valuable if it's used to create a Daytona clone than if it stays a 500. I guess I did not realize clone donor cars were worth more than original 500"s. Why not create the clone out of an original 318 car per say. Why lose a 500. The clone is not worth any more to me at least because it was once a Charger 500. It won't be a 500 once you clone it and that added value over the 318 car is lost. 500's are rare & fewer made than Daytona's. Maybe not as sought after but still very desireable. You can throw hypothetical restoration costs at these cars and nobody will ever restore another one. I heard that same scenario back in the 1980's and the people that passed on those cars wish they had them now. 

[C500]

I hate to say it, but its only real value is as a clone of a Daytona.    Otherwise, its a $20,000 something car or maybe less depending on condition. 

Why? What makes an original 500 more valuable if it's used to create a Daytona clone than if it stays a 500. I guess I did not realize clone donor cars were worth more than original 500"s. Why not create the clone out of an original 318 car per say. Why lose a 500. The clone is not worth any more to me at least because it was once a Charger 500. It won't be a 500 once you clone it and that added value over the 318 car is lost. 500's are rare & fewer made than Daytona's. Maybe not as sought after but still very desireable. You can throw hypothetical restoration costs at these cars and nobody will ever restore another one. I heard that same scenario back in the 1980's and the people that passed on those cars wish they had them now. 

well said Davtona

[RallyeMike]

Unless you do the labor yourself for pennies on the hour, every car is a losing investment when you factor in purchase price + restoration costs.

Destroying a real 69 500 to restore it into a fake Daytona? That's even dumbererer than losing your shorts on a normal restoration. You sink all the costs into making the conversion and all you have in front of you is a bastard car worth (at most) the same money as a restored 500.

I do agree $20k plus is a good bottom line sell #. With stubborn effort and holding out for the right buyer, maybe up to $25k.

[held1823]

the recent allen & troy trade would suggest even a project c500 is worth as much as a finished clone.

when you use "value" as the measuring stick, it's all about the VIN

[XS29LA47V21]

the recent allen & troy trade would suggest even a project c500 is worth as much as a finished clone.

when you use "value" as the measuring stick, it's all about the VIN

Agreed. 

Worth is also left to the individuals, that black cloned Daytona is very nice for sure, sitting side by side for the same dollar I would rather have that Y2 500 (likely because the rework of the .... as I real black RTSE from Daytona would cost to much for me).     

[tan top]

the recent allen & troy trade would suggest even a project c500 is worth as much as a finished clone.

when you use "value" as the measuring stick, it's all about the VIN

Agreed. 

Worth is also left to the individuals, that black cloned Daytona is very nice for sure, sitting side by side for the same dollar I would rather have that Y2 500 (likely because the rework of the .... as I real black RTSE from Daytona would cost to much for me).     

yeah , as awesome as that  R/T SE Daytona clone is !!    would rather have the  XX29 C500 , especially as its an original Y2 car 

[Ghoste]

I prefer the 500 to the Daytona anyway so cloning it certainly wouldn't raise its value in my eyes.

[hemi68charger]

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Worth is also left to the individuals, that black cloned Daytona is very nice for sure, sitting side by side for the same dollar I would rather have that Y2 500 (likely because the rework of the .... as I real black RTSE from Daytona would cost to much for me).     

Agreed. If my former Y2 C500 looked like my current black clone, I wouldn't have a "current" clone.. I would have a Y2 C500. Value is in the eye of the beholder. There are different people with different desires and those very same people have desires that even change with age. I personally didn't want to tackle the project to the level I have for me. Ya'll know me, I wouldn't have been satisfied with a "quickie" restoration. It is pretty much all or nothing. Allen's/Larry's former Daytona is a REAL nice car. Is it perfect? no......... It was never meant to be. But, it has one hell of a base to start with and the paint/body are real nice....... Interior is real nice........ Drivetrain has detailing issues, but nothing I can't fix. I am a purist persay and yes, a XX29 car is worth more than a XS or XP car. But, the comparison isn't apple to apple.....

This B5 C500 seems to be an excellent candidate for a restoration, especially for a Southern owner if the a/c is fixed. It could provide year-round enjoyment. I hope someone gets it and makes it look just as good as Allen V's B5 4speed C500..... Now, that's a beaut.... 

[nascarxx29]

Its what you put in it .Didnt this B5 4 speed non matching number 500 require alot of costly work in its resto process.Is it done
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,33799.0.html

[73rallye440magnum]

We've seen a few numbers thrown around... and some interest from potential buyers. Is it for sale?!

[nascarxx29]

When he gets ready to go craiglist or ebay.Wont know till then.

[C500]

I have some spare play money to spend. Where is it, how's the condition & most importantly; how much?

Buy it  

[hemi68charger]

I have some spare play money to spend. Where is it, how's the condition & most importantly; how much?

Buy it  

[Mytur Binsdirti]

No one's gotten back to me with any details.   

[Davtona]

Its what you put in it .Didnt this B5 4 speed non matching number 500 require alot of costly work in its resto process.Is it done
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,33799.0.html

Last time I was way down south it was not at home yet. I believe it is real close to done if not done. He might have been waiting for the spot in the building I cleared out to put it in.    Maybe Allen will hop on and give us a update. 

[held1823]

When he gets ready to go craiglist or ebay.Wont know till then.

why list it there, when he could have a buyer here already?

this forum is a damn sight better at pricing an aero car than the dreamer bids on ebay