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Electric fuel pump locations.....

Started by 1974dodgecharger, August 16, 2014, 10:34:15 PM

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firefighter3931

If you guys are looking for a good mechanical pump the Carter 120GPH (6 psi) street pump is an excellent choice. I've used several of these over the years. Last one was on my old 446 (535hp/540tq) that ran 11.60's @ 4100 raceweight.  :2thumbs:

Mancini has the exclusive rights to this pump so if you want one you'll have to get it from them :

http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/cabheen5psis.html

As for electric pumps....they work best when mounted at the same level or below the tank. Venting is also very important as well.  ;)



Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

charger1972

As far as electric pumps being noisy , I have all ways ran Holley pumps  and yeah they are pretty loud . Ron recommended the Mallory I have now and is WAY quieter .

BSB67

Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on August 18, 2014, 09:02:50 PM
I can sit on a hill and it does like to idle it will die out as in fuel starvation.  I have to keep on the gas every so often.
Non stock motor 383, KB pistons, 10.5:1, 509 cam, RPM heads, 750DP, stock rockers.  
Quote from: 68charger440 on August 18, 2014, 11:08:01 AM
Quote from: BSB67 on August 18, 2014, 10:12:08 AM
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on August 18, 2014, 12:00:20 AM

Reason I want to switch to electrical is because the mechanical is lazy if my car is on a hill going up.  

This is silly.

A $40 pump from anywhere will work.
I agree that a $40 pump should work for any stock or near stock motor, so this problem on a hill is probably not related to the fuel pump.  But in my experience on a built motor the stock $40 pump just doesn't cut it.  We don't know enough about this guys particular combo though.

You just confirmed it.  Not the pump.  I recommend finding the problem and fixing that instead.

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68charger440

Quote from: charger1972 on August 20, 2014, 05:59:09 PM
As far as electric pumps being noisy , I have all ways ran Holley pumps  and yeah they are pretty loud . Ron recommended the Mallory I have now and is WAY quieter .
I have the high performance mechanical on mine right now and it seems to work fine on the street.  (So far at least)  But I am interested to see if it keeps up on the track.  That will probably be next year though.
I thought about leaving the Holley electric pump in line with the mechanical and just powering it up when I go to the track.  Don't know if that will cause any problems.  I did it with a motor home years ago and never had problems with it.
When someone is absolutely 100% sure they know exactly what your problem is and how to fix it, it's time to ask someone else!

Charger-Bodie

I just installed a mallory electric 110 on my 69 . Mounted it to the floor ahead of the dana 60. Not too bad for noise either. Not like the holley ones I've had.
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

68charger440

Quote from: Charger-Bodie on August 20, 2014, 08:31:50 PM
I just installed a mallory electric 110 on my 69 . Mounted it to the floor ahead of the dana 60. Not too bad for noise either. Not like the holley ones I've had.
Well if I have to go back to the electric Maybe I'll give the Mallory a shot.  My holey sounds like a jackhammer and it takes some of the fun out of just cruising around.
When someone is absolutely 100% sure they know exactly what your problem is and how to fix it, it's time to ask someone else!

mhinders

It was a bit of work to squeeze all this in through the original tank hole, but it's a quiet and nice assembly.
When I buy a new gas tank it will be just a drop-in in the new tank.
Martin
Dodge Charger 1967, 512 cui, E85, MegaSquirt MS3X sequential ignition and injection

tan top

Quote from: mhinders on August 21, 2014, 06:48:53 AM
It was a bit of work to squeeze all this in through the original tank hole, but it's a quiet and nice assembly.
When I buy a new gas tank it will be just a drop-in in the new tank.

that's clever  :yesnod: :2thumbs:  ... :popcrn:
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It is a carb built in 63 lol, i rebuilt it but a carb that old, lol......well.


Quote from: 68charger440 on August 20, 2014, 09:19:17 AM
Quote from: mopar0166 on August 20, 2014, 08:44:39 AM
Actually no a 40 dollar pump first should not be used, don't be so cheap.  second of all, yes you will gain better performance the less the fuel pump will have to work to get fuel up to a motor, thus it needs to be close to the tank and lower then the fill neck or fuel outlet. 

If you like crappy results and just want to piddle down the road then don't worry about what I said. 

Hopefully this doesn't offend anyone but the statements are crazy if you want performance from an electric fuel pump.
Ma Mopar made millions of cars with those cheap $40 pumps, so for a stock application they perform very well and are reliable.  Modified motors are another story, but this thread is about a problem where just idling on a hill the car acts like it is starved for fuel, and not about performance under heavy load. That should not be a problem for any mechanical fuel pump.  The cure for that problem is most likely in the carb and not the fuel pump IMO.

Ghoste


68charger440

Have you double checked your floats yet?  I really think that is a good free  :D place to start.
When someone is absolutely 100% sure they know exactly what your problem is and how to fix it, it's time to ask someone else!

1974dodgecharger

Quote from: 68charger440 on August 22, 2014, 09:11:47 AM
Have you double checked your floats yet?  I really think that is a good free  :D place to start.

yeah I checked them and its a 750DP.