Hotchkis Sway Bar / TVS Users: HELP

[familymopar]

Familymopar, good pics. I can tell those are the 1.10" bars, they also started printing the part number & L/R on them. Those are not decals on yours.
Good to know, I have them sitting here waiting in the box, my box is also marked 1.03" & the instructions state 1.10". Hotchkis did confirm they were the 1.10"s. Hopefully I can order the control arms soon & start swapping out.

BTW, as a TTI user I can attest they do not hang nearly as low. 

bill440rt,

I can't wait to see pics of your charger after the suspension changes.  I would like to see how low your TTI's get afterwards.  If it is significantly higher than mine I may try to swap them also.

Did you get, or are you planning to get, the Hotchkis rear leafs?  That is what forced me so low...

[bill440rt]

Me too! 

Actually, where the ride height of the front of my car is set right now isn't too far off from what I've seen with other members' cars with the Hotchkis bars. My front end is set on the low side, with stock 383 bars. Hotchkis stated I should have no problem returning it to where it is now.
I like the ride height of the rear now with the MP springs, so they are staying. The rear spring rate should still work well with the front mods, according to Hotchkis. They said the biggest improvements come from their sway bars and shocks. After that torsion bars & upper control arms (for a better alignment).
The TTI's are the lowest at the collectors on my car, looks like yours are lowest at the primary tubes. 

[familymopar]

Me too! 

Actually, where the ride height of the front of my car is set right now isn't too far off from what I've seen with other members' cars with the Hotchkis bars. My front end is set on the low side, with stock 383 bars. Hotchkis stated I should have no problem returning it to where it is now.
I like the ride height of the rear now with the MP springs, so they are staying. The rear spring rate should still work well with the front mods, according to Hotchkis. They said the biggest improvements come from their sway bars and shocks. After that torsion bars & upper control arms (for a better alignment).
The TTI's are the lowest at the collectors on my car, looks like yours are lowest at the primary tubes. 

I have been trying to figure out a reliable way to measure how far the headers hang as opposed to how far off the ground they are.  As our cars are, presumably, at different heights with different suspension components, how far your TTI's are off the ground will only help so much.  But if I could get an idea how far they actually hang, that would be instructive on whether I should consider the switch from Doug's to TTI's.

[1974dodgecharger]

Wow that is loa.  Looks awesome though!

I thought that was pretty normal? with hothckis and headers....that's how low mine sits.

[myk]

I'm still running stock manifolds so I wouldn't know any better.  I guess I'll be dealing with that as well if I decide on headers...

[familymopar]

Wow that is loa.  Looks awesome though!

I thought that was pretty normal? with hothckis and headers....that's how low mine sits.

I really don't know.  It is very low but it is ok, it is not my daily driver.  But if Bill is correct, and I can gain an inch or 2 out of TTI's, it may be worth considering the switch.

I'm still running stock manifolds so I wouldn't know any better.  I guess I'll be dealing with that as well if I decide on headers...

You know, it's been a while, but after I did my headers I saw all kinds of info on the stock manifolds providing just as much flow and power possibilities as aftermarket headers.  I like the looks of headers and all, but I suppose I would also consider going back to stock manifolds if the height were to prove to be too much of a problem, which I doubt.

[myk]

But the SOUND of those headers.  They do sound better than manifolds, right?

[familymopar]

But the SOUND of those headers.  They do sound better than manifolds, right?

Yes they do.  I would not say that the sound difference I heard was overwhelming.  But it does sound better.  Unfortunately, when I did the headers I also did the full exhaust, x pipe, cut-outs all at the same time.  So I don't really have a very good idea of the difference only the headers would have made.

I admit that I think they look sweet too, especially from under the car.

[myk]

But the SOUND of those headers.  They do sound better than manifolds, right?

Yes they do.  I would not say that the sound difference I heard was overwhelming.  But it does sound better.  Unfortunately, when I did the headers I also did the full exhaust, x pipe, cut-outs all at the same time.  So I don't really have a very good idea of the difference only the headers would have made.

I admit that I think they look sweet too, especially from under the car.

Electronic cut-outs?  I'm planning the exact same exhaust setup as yours...

[familymopar]

But the SOUND of those headers.  They do sound better than manifolds, right?

Yes they do.  I would not say that the sound difference I heard was overwhelming.  But it does sound better.  Unfortunately, when I did the headers I also did the full exhaust, x pipe, cut-outs all at the same time.  So I don't really have a very good idea of the difference only the headers would have made.

I admit that I think they look sweet too, especially from under the car.

Electronic cut-outs?  I'm planning the exact same exhaust setup as yours...

Yes.  I used Doug's electric cut outs and ran the switch up into the console.  Used he Pypes 2.5" x-pipe.  I am really happy with it.

[Brass]

But the SOUND of those headers.  They do sound better than manifolds, right?

I think that is subjective.  Personally, I think manifolds can create a deeper sound.  Headers are distinctive but seem to have a more tinny/treble quality.

[familymopar]

But the SOUND of those headers.  They do sound better than manifolds, right?

I think that is subjective.  Personally, I think manifolds can create a deeper sound.  Headers are distinctive but seem to have a more tinny/treble quality.

No doubt about it being subjective.  I love the sound with the manifolds.  I love the sound now, but again, I am not sure now much to attribute to the headers alone.  The manifolds can sound excellent though.

[myk]

So I get this notice that Hotchkis is running a 20% off sale for summer.  I whipped out my credit card, ready to lay down some virtual cash when I remembered that Hotchkis' prices are much higher than dealers like Summit, Jegs, etc.  Now, if that 20% off would apply to THOSE prices?