Reproduction fender tags...... thoughts?

[ECS]

I agree a brand new thread discussion should be started by ECS.......The first order of business should be for ECS to contact the current owner Randy Koppel, introduce himself as the one of the "experts" who made the door jamb decal, then ask for a copy of the inspection report (complied by another "expert" whom he doesn't like).

If you feel a "brand new thread should be started" then by all means start one!  "Randy Koppel" is also more than welcome to contact me for any information about the VIN Decal I made prior to him owning the vehicle. 

I don't recall ever posting anything about not liking someone or being a self proclaimed "Expert".  The facts are simply the facts and ECS is AUTHORIZED BY CHRYSLER to provide the services we provide.  It's too bad that someone's toes have been stepped on with regards to their ignorance concerning the subject matter.

[resq302]

so how long until this highjacked thread gets locked like the last one ?
 why don't the "experts "with an axe to grind start their own thread ?
  maybe   "are there really any mopar experts out there , show us your credentials "  

don't know Dave wise or ECS   just sick of seeing the same stuff dragged up in others threads over and over after they have gotten another thread locked    

I agree a brand new thread discussion should be started by ECS.  I will suggest a name for it.  "Six Pack Charger - My Own Internal Investigation"

The first order of business should be for ECS to contact the current owner Randy Koppel, introduce himself as the one of the "experts" who made the door jamb decal, then ask for a copy of the inspection report (complied by another "expert" whom he doesn't like). Without obtaining this report, expert #1 should not disparage the work of "expert #2" based entirely on heresay and what he has read in a magazine.  For some reason one of the "experts" has chosen not to participate on any on line discussion threads about this subject, and the other "expert"?....well you know.  

Here's a good place to continue the discussion.

Randy Koppel
Desert Auto Sport
4237 E Magnolia Street
Phoenix, Arizona 85034

Phone: (602) 438-0100

Is this really a good idea posting this guys phone number on the internet like this?     

[Rocco Barnard]

Is this really a good idea posting this guys phone number on the internet like this?    

Huh?  It came from the Internet.  How do you think I got it?  

[nvrbdn]

seems to be a business,   so..........     free advertisement?

       

[resq302]

Is this really a good idea posting this guys phone number on the internet like this?    

Huh?  It came from the Internet.  How do you think I got it?  

Sorry, didn't realize you had the persons info to do an actual search for it on the internet.  I was under the impression that you had all of the persons personal information and was posting it out here.  I wonder if the guy is now going to get bombarded with phone calls asking for him to join here and post the report!

[bill440rt]

This walk-around video was already posted on here.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152131663768930&set=vb.58843378929&type=2&theater

His name & a write up is printed in the Carlisle show program. Didn't you get one, Brian?
http://browndigital.bpc.com/publication/?i=215515&p=36

[resq302]

Bill,

I did not get the program as I was just wandering the swap meet.  So, I was not aware that the stuff was in there.

[Ghoste]

Who physically brought the car to Carlisle?  Was Koepel even there?  Has he been to Carlisle before?  As much as I am convinced this car isn't what it's being purported as, I don't want to vilify the current owner without knowing his side, he may not have known the back story on the car, he may still not.  The security may have been hired if he sent the car out from Arizona without knowing anything about Carlisle or what others do there.  He may have never been to the place.  I'd get nervous sending something like that across the country if I didn't know what I was getting into.
Just doing a little devils advocate here. 

[TUFCAT]

Yes he was there... talking with many people.  

[Ghoste]

Oh okay.  Do you know if anyone called the car into question and how he responded?

[TUFCAT]

Nope.  One of my buddies talked to him but didn't bring up anything controversial.

[resq302]

If Carlisle invited him out there for a special display, they typically have it behind ropes or whatever like that.  I think anyone and everyone knows about the different events that Carlisle put on as they are partnered with all kinds of major sponsors and other automotive museums and such.  Besides, Carlisle Productions even went to this guys garage so they could have talked in person about any concerns or such.

[Ghoste]

So the car was an invitational?  Okay, I wasn't aware of that either.

[resq302]

I don't know if it was for certain or not but it just seems weird that if it wasn't why would Carlisle do the video of the car and seem to promote the car being there.   

[TUFCAT]

I don't know if it was for certain or not but it just seems weird that if it wasn't why would Carlisle do the video of the car and seem to promote the car being there.  

It was on the showfield at the end of a main aisle.  Not an invitational display.

[resq302]

I don't know if it was for certain or not but it just seems weird that if it wasn't why would Carlisle do the video of the car and seem to promote the car being there.   

It was on the showfield on the end of a main aisle.  Not an invitational display.

Seems weird that it was not an invitational display yet would have all the info and such on it in the program.  Maybe they were invited out there but not in a special building display?  Other people are invited out there like Richard Petty, Ramchargers group, and others yet they are not in buildings with their display.  Just seems weird to have it publicized like that and not have it be invited out there.

[bill440rt]

It was on display on it's own, under it's own tent. It was on the fun field at the end of the row within sight of the main grand stand. You could NOT miss this.
The display was similar to a certain Hemi Road Runner drop top that was there a few years back. IIRC there was some controversy over that one as well. The display was there to generate interest.

[ECS]

This walk-around video was already posted on here.

You'll notice that the Owner states that the car was "verified" by an "authoritative figure in the Mopar World".  I have studied and investigated health related topics such as the functioning of the Human Heart but would never be so arrogant or deceptive to advertise that I am a Board Verified Cardiologist.  I would like to know who commissioned and authorized Dave Wise to verify/certify Federal VIN legitimacy on DMV cars?

[BananaDan]

Yes he was there... talking with many people.  

I spoke with him, he was looking at my car for a bit on Saturday. Seemed like a nice guy. We didn't speak long, just that he was checking out 70's for notes on resto details for his car and taking pics. When I asked him what he had he simply said the lime green 70 under the tent down the row. Nothing more than that or to tout what it is or alleged to be. He was also a celebrity judge. 

[Rocco Barnard]

I would like to know who commissioned and authorized Dave Wise to verify/certify Federal VIN legitimacy on DMV vehicles?

You have someone who attempted to falsify a vehicle and an "expert" who aided with the process of doing so.....

It seems like your getting "bent-out-of-shape" about this Charger. There's some interesting irony here.  The same as having a phony VIN Plate and door jamb decal on a phony car - like your four door Barracuda.    

I also called my contact at the NICB to check their registration records for the same vehicle.  I hope to hear back from him this afternoon.  It shouldn't be too long until the vehicle has been completely exposed and all questions answered.    

Is this because of your angry with Dave Wise for not judging your car "properly" at the Mopar Nats?

I find it very peculiar that the same "Expert" has docked my VIN Decals on almost every car that he judges.  The only people he gives a free pass to are those associated with his programs or his close Friends.  

Do you honestly think Dave Wise has an agenda - - and you don't?

You would have to ask Dave Wise why his ability to distinguish between the two appears to be predicated on whatever agenda he is attempting to promote.  

[Ghoste]

I'd just like to get to the real truth about this car as it is now by the guy who owns it.

[ECS]

The same as having a phony VIN Plate and door jamb decal on a phony car - like your four door Barracuda.    
Is this because of your angry with Dave Wise for not judging your car "properly" at the Mopar Nats?

You think the 4 Door Concept is a parallel comparison to a fake car?    I could understand your sentiment if we were lying to people saying that it was THE actual Concept 4 Door vehicle written about by Roger Johnson.  Of course everyone knows what the car represents (which is a one of none recreation) and has never been promoted as anything otherwise.  

Regarding "Dave Wise" judging one of my cars, you should get your facts straight.  He has never been a judge for any of my vehicles.  He certainly wasn't one of the judges at the Nationals that I participated in and obviously does not possess the knowledge to administer a judging on any of my Restorations.  He is more than welcome however to study them and learn from what we have done.  

[JB400]

How is the Barracuda project coming along anyway?

[ECS]

How is the Barracuda project coming along anyway?

The Body is completely finished and we are fabricating custom components for the Interior.  Marty B. who is the Owner of Legendary Interiors is helping to make the Door Panels for the project.  I'll try to get some updated pictures and post them in a new thread.  I have been splitting my time working on my 69 Trans Am project and new Exhaust components for ECS.

[TUFCAT]

He certainly wasn't one of the judges at the Nationals that I participated in and obviously does not possess the knowledge to administer a judging on any of my Restorations.  He is more than welcome however to study them and learn from what we have done.  

These kind of remarks show the extreme arrogance you are known for.  

Your reputation in the Mopar community speaks for itself, and I've never heard anything good.