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Correct diameter of centering hole in Mopar wheels?

Started by Ghoste, July 14, 2014, 10:20:15 AM

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JB400

Either way, your fractions and use of words like "between", "rounded to", "approximate", and "close to" would not fly with the person that has to machine the hubs for these wheels.  The same would also apply to the person that has to manufacture the dies to produce these wheels, the supplier of the metal for the wheels, or anyone else that has to deal with making precision machined parts.  They're more better suited for woodworking and cabinet making where exact is not as important as getting close enough.
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Nice edit on Post  #8 by the way, and the other ones as well.

TUFCAT


MaximRecoil

Quote from: JB400 on July 21, 2014, 01:28:16 AM
Either way, your fractions and use of words like "between", "rounded to", "approximate", and "close to" would not fly with the person that has to machine the hubs for these wheels. The same would also apply to the person that has to manufacture the dies to produce these wheels, the supplier of the metal for the wheels, or anyone else that has to deal with making precision machined parts.  They're more better suited for woodworking and cabinet making where exact is not as important as getting close enough.

I have no idea what you're talking about, because as I told the other left-fielder, I don't speak "Left Field™". As best as I can tell, you are confused about the difference between machining tolerances and intended nominal dimensions of parts (you are also utterly confused about how the English language works in general, given that my use of words like "between", "rounded to", "approximate", and "close to" had nothing whatsoever to do with instructing a machinist), but either way, how about you explain what any of this has to do with it being bizarre that Ford in the 1960s would call for a 70.5mm center bore on some of their wheels?

QuoteNice edit on Post  #8 by the way.

What edit? You may just reside even deeper in left field than the other guy.

Edit: This is comically ironic:

Quote from: JB400 on July 21, 2014, 01:28:16 AM
Nice edit on Post  #8 by the way, and the other ones as well.

I bolded the part that you edited in. By the way, I don't remember which posts I've edited, but when I edit a post it is for things like typos. If I add new content, I mark it as edited, so I have no idea what you are talking about (and neither do you, for that matter).

TUFCAT


bill440rt

"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce

Ghoste

I'm just glad I got my question answered before the cliff.

ws23rt

 :lol: It is amazing how this happens.  I am partly to blame for it though.  Just commenting and rendering my opinion is enough to tip it over the edge. :slap:

Btw  2-13/16 inch is exactly 71-7/16 MM-----Just find this interesting :shruggy:

MaximRecoil

Quote from: ws23rt on July 21, 2014, 07:55:00 AM
:lol: It is amazing how this happens.  I am partly to blame for it though.  Just commenting and rendering my opinion is enough to tip it over the edge. :slap:

"Partly" to blame? The first smartass comment in this thread (first sentence, reply #18) was made by you (no surprise there), and like always, it was based on your own failure to properly read and/or comprehend the words on your screen. Then JB400 came along with his own smartass comments (along with a vague and false accusation that I edited previous posts in some way that matters), also based on his own failure to properly read and/or comprehend the words on his screen.

TUFCAT

Maxim, this might be a little off topic but can you post picture's of your Charger?  With your ultra-high level of accuracy and personal demand for perfection in everything you do, it must be a 100 point show car right?  


JB400

Now Tuffy, that is entirely inappropriate of you to ask Maxim to post pix of his car.  Aren't you supposed to start a poll first to see if other members share your same interest in his car as you do? ;)

TUFCAT

My apologies JB!  Obviously I haven't read Maxim's rules properly, and have a fundamental misconception for following logical procedures.  :mcride:

As such, please consider my question dismissed. :smash:  

It was entirely irrelevant based on my own failure to properly read and/or comprehend the words on my screen.  :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:

Maxim..... go easy on me please!  :spank: :moon:    I speak "Left Field™".   :smilielol:

ws23rt

Quote from: MaximRecoil on July 21, 2014, 12:56:07 PM
Quote from: ws23rt on July 21, 2014, 07:55:00 AM
:lol: It is amazing how this happens.  I am partly to blame for it though.  Just commenting and rendering my opinion is enough to tip it over the edge. :slap:

"Partly" to blame? The first smartass comment in this thread (first sentence, reply #18) was made by you (no surprise there), and like always, it was based on your own failure to properly read and/or comprehend the words on your screen. Then JB400 came along with his own smartass comments (along with a vague and false accusation that I edited previous posts in some way that matters), also based on his own failure to properly read and/or comprehend the words on his screen.

Oh come on now maxim.  I admitted my part.  I was experimenting to see just how little it takes to make you go.
I know you call it free food but I see it as a performance treat. :cheers:   You did just fine.

MaximRecoil

Quote from: TUFCAT on July 21, 2014, 02:09:05 PM
Maxim, this might be a little off topic but can you post picture's of your Charger?  With your ultra-high level of accuracy and personal demand for perfection in everything you do, it must be a 100 point show car right?

Not even close. My car is a beater, and I've already posted pictures of it before, somewhere. Your "theory" doesn't even make sense by the way, even if it did have a valid premise (which it doesn't).

Quote from: ws23rt on July 21, 2014, 04:33:11 PM

Oh come on now maxim.  I admitted my part.  I was experimenting to see just how little it takes to make you go. I know you call it free food but I see it as a performance treat. :cheers:   You did just fine.

Even a special ed. primary school student would roll his eyes at this laughable attempt at a "save" from you. He might even find humor (as I do) in the fact that every time you play your pathetic ad hoc "But I did that on purpose!" card, you are unwittingly admitting to being a "troll" (i.e., the trouble-maker, the instigator), by definition; a remarkably inept one at that. Of course, instigators like yourself and others on this thread don't bother me at all; in fact, the forum I've frequented most for the past dozen years or so has the following disclaimer at the top:
QuoteHere's the place to post your heated discussions that might irk the members of more tame boards. When someone tells you to 'take it outside'... take it here. Terms and Conditions still apply.

Note that discussions on this board may easily get out of hand and IMDb recommends people with a sensitive nature and/or people under 18 years of age should avoid The Soapbox.
But the funny thing about you guys is: you instigate and then whine about the direction in which it takes the thread.

When people of at least average intelligence and reading comprehension ability read threads like this, you come across as being perpetually confused and more than a little bit "out there", given that practically everything you type is false or irrelevant.

ws23rt

Maxim  you are clearly talking to the public and not me.  Why else would you keep repeating the same thing over and over. And bringing up that other site that can cause permanent psychological damage if not used with doctors care.  

Why spent the effort with me if it were not that this is public.  I think it's because you know I'm not offended or feel put in my place. So you need for it to at least look as though that's the case?

You are spending effort and I'm just watching like the rest. :shruggy:

MaximRecoil

Quote from: ws23rt on July 21, 2014, 06:27:57 PM
Maxim  you are clearly talking to the public and not me.  Why would you keep repeating the same thing over and over. And bringing up that other site that can cause permanent psychological damage if not used with doctors care. 

Why spent the effort with me if it were not that this is public.  I think it's because you know I'm not offended or feel put in my place. So you need for it to at least look as though that's the case?

You are spending effort and I'm just watching like the rest. :shruggy:

Another textbook example of "out of left field". Are you on mind-altering drugs, or did you come from the factory that way?

By the way, if by "spending effort" you mean "typing posts", you are also typing posts, obviously (thus, not "just watching", which is also obvious). I don't know about you, but typing posts doesn't fall into the category of "spending effort" for me. I wouldn't go to forums at all if posting = "spending effort", nor would, I suspect, most other people.

TUFCAT

Quote from: MaximRecoil on July 21, 2014, 06:36:30 PM


Are you on mind-altering drugs, or did you come from the factory that way?



FINALLY SOME ACTUAL HUMOR FROM MAXIM!  :lol: :haha:

JB400

Quote from: TUFCAT on July 21, 2014, 07:12:33 PM
Quote from: MaximRecoil on July 21, 2014, 06:36:30 PM


Are you on mind-altering drugs, or did you come from the factory that way?



FINALLY SOME ACTUAL HUMOR FROM MAXIM!  :lol: :haha:
He might be part human after all :rofl:

ws23rt

Quote from: JB400 on July 21, 2014, 10:29:06 PM
Quote from: TUFCAT on July 21, 2014, 07:12:33 PM
Quote from: MaximRecoil on July 21, 2014, 06:36:30 PM


Are you on mind-altering drugs, or did you come from the factory that way?



FINALLY SOME ACTUAL HUMOR FROM MAXIM!  :lol: :haha:
He might be part human after all :rofl:

:lol: It is sad but true---he is human---oops a presumption--- Learning to fit/adapt is an on going struggle for some. As we grow up we usually get the hang of it. :cheers:

MaximRecoil

Quote from: ws23rt on July 22, 2014, 09:38:12 PM
:lol: It is sad but true---he is human---oops a presumption--- Learning to fit/adapt is an on going struggle for some. As we grow up we usually get the hang of it. :cheers:

As if I'd have any interest whatsoever in "learning to fit/adapt" with simpletons, and as if it would require a "learning" process even if I did want to do it. Acting like a moron isn't rocket science.

Someone saw something I posted and recognized it as humor, and this seemed unusual because the vast majority of what I consider to be humor wouldn't be recognized as such by this crowd ("this crowd" refers to the usual peanut gallery members; not every member of this forum is an idiot; far from it in fact), there would only be plenty of blank and confused stares.

ws23rt

Quote from: MaximRecoil on July 22, 2014, 11:25:32 PM
Quote from: ws23rt on July 22, 2014, 09:38:12 PM
:lol: It is sad but true---he is human---oops a presumption--- Learning to fit/adapt is an on going struggle for some. As we grow up we usually get the hang of it. :cheers:

As if I'd have any interest whatsoever in "learning to fit/adapt" with simpletons, and as if it would require a "learning" process even if I did want to do it. Acting like a moron isn't rocket science.

Someone saw something I posted and recognized it as humor, and this seemed unusual because the vast majority of what I consider to be humor wouldn't be recognized as such by this crowd ("this crowd" refers to the usual peanut gallery members; not every member of this forum is an idiot; far from it in fact), there would only be plenty of blank and confused stares.


This forum is large enough to be a good example of a slice of life.

It would be mindful of you to accept that when you are speaking to those few that you hope are listening.

MaximRecoil

Quote from: ws23rt on July 23, 2014, 02:09:08 AM

This forum is large enough to be a good example of a slice of life.

Which is why there are idiots here, just as in real life. By the way, "large" is only part of the equation. In this case, cars are a general enough interest that you'll find the full spectrum of people here, or at least, the full spectrum of males, but with forums dealing with more specialized topics, it is a different story. For example, on the EEVblog forum (13,814 total members compared to 15,501 total members here), I've yet to encounter an idiot. That's because generally only intelligent people are interested in working on electronics (while both intelligent people and idiots alike want a muscle car), and intelligent people don't typically get emotional and go into peanut gallery mode when someone disagrees with them, but rather, they argue about it intelligently.

Forum threads containing long, intelligent arguments are among the best sources of information on the internet. The argument among Richard Ehrenberg and others over using the "wrong" spindles for a disc brake conversion is a good example of this. If Ehrenberg had only been among people who lacked the mental horsepower to express their disagreement in the form of legitimate arguments and facts rather than mindless heckling, it would have been a worthless thread.

QuoteIt would be mindful of you to accept that when you are speaking to those few that you hope are listening.

Left field again. Which "few" people do you imagine that I "hope are listening"?

ws23rt

Your post answers the question----Which few people do you hope are listening?---

Why would you bother speaking to idiots?  We are just something to be endured. Pesky little us. :lol:

TUFCAT

Maxim you are so demoralizing and socially inept. Do you have any friends on this planet?  :scratchchin:

TUFCAT

Quote from: MaximRecoil on July 23, 2014, 03:29:38 AM
Quote from: ws23rt on July 23, 2014, 02:09:08 AM

This forum is large enough to be a good example of a slice of life.

Which is why there are idiots here, just as in real life. By the way, "large" is only part of the equation. In this case, cars are a general enough interest that you'll find the full spectrum of people here, or at least, the full spectrum of males, but with forums dealing with more specialized topics, it is a different story. For example, on the EEVblog forum (13,814 total members compared to 15,501 total members here), I've yet to encounter an idiot. That's because generally only intelligent people are interested in working on electronics (while both intelligent people and idiots alike want a muscle car), and intelligent people don't typically get emotional and go into peanut gallery mode when someone disagrees with them, but rather, they argue about it intelligently.

Forum threads containing long, intelligent arguments are among the best sources of information on the internet. The argument among Richard Ehrenberg and others over using the "wrong" spindles for a disc brake conversion is a good example of this. If Ehrenberg had only been among people who lacked the mental horsepower to express their disagreement in the form of legitimate arguments and facts rather than mindless heckling, it would have been a worthless thread.

QuoteIt would be mindful of you to accept that when you are speaking to those few that you hope are listening.

Left field again. Which "few" people do you imagine that I "hope are listening"?

Better yet, have you ever found a woman that would even talk to you - without paying her first?  :P :rofl:

MaximRecoil

Quote from: ws23rt on July 23, 2014, 04:15:18 AM
Your post answers the question----Which few people do you hope are listening?---

No, it doesn't. The answer to the question should have been obvious due to my use of the word "imagine". In other words, there are no "few" that I "hope are listening"; that idea simply came from your imagination, as opposed to reality. That happens a lot with you, due to your residence in deep, deep left field.

QuoteWhy would you bother speaking to idiots?  We are just something to be endured. Pesky little us. :lol:

Because arguing is entertaining, even though it is a lopsided argument when idiots are involved.

Quote from: TUFCAT on July 23, 2014, 09:32:37 AM
Maxim you are so demoralizing and socially inept. Do you have any friends on this planet?  :scratchchin:

This isn't a social hall, simple fellow. You and your ilk come across as "socially needy" when trying to find social fulfillment from nameless, faceless strangers on an internet forum.

Quote from: TUFCAT on July 23, 2014, 09:35:13 AM

Better yet, have you ever found a woman that would even talk to you - without paying her first?  :P :rofl:

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