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Superbird Vitamin C WIW??? --- Update ---

Started by Redmanf1, July 08, 2014, 06:53:26 PM

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Redmanf1

Ok,
this is what I thought to be correct ( on the NASCAR list as the 36th conversion date Rec Nov-5 / date shipped Nov-12).

Thanks
Nelson


Redmanf1

No, always been a MI car.  "This car was purchased new at New Baltimore MI Chrysler Plymouth INC July 7th 1970 by Leonard then passed to son in 1972, a one family owned car, 70's original title."



Quote from: nascarxx29 on February 17, 2015, 12:24:17 AM
Florida car?MIght explain the added on air conditioning


nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

Redmanf1

I am lost as heck................ I would like to get the info correct .....   RM23  UOA  155794  This help???

nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

nascarxx29

 car #36 RM23 U 0A 155794 5-Nov  12-Nov  
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

Redmanf1

Thank you for the help...


??th car made. It is the ?th four barrel still in existence and is on the NASCAR list as the 36th conversion date Rec Nov-5 / date shipped Nov-12



Quote from: nascarxx29 on February 17, 2015, 12:51:59 AM
car #36 RM23 U 0A 155794 5-Nov  12-Nov  

nascarxx29

in the 1920 listing starting at 1 st your number 36 th
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

Redbird

So last year you somehow got the car from the original family, or are brokering the car? Fine, so are you the second owner and the new owner will be the 3rd or higher owner? Nothing wrong with the simple facts.

Very nice job fixing it up.

IMHO still not a #2 car with the mismatch of colors and the Quarter panel decal challenges, can't get there from here. That said I hope you get a good price.

Redmanf1

Is this part correct??? ( 34th car made. It is the ??th four barrel still in existence and is on the NASCAR list as the 36th conversion date Rec Nov-5 / date shipped Nov-12).

Thanks again



Quote from: nascarxx29 on February 17, 2015, 12:57:31 AM
in the 1920 listing starting at 1 st your number 36 th

Redmanf1

I think we have been through this before.      I did state the facts and as I have said I own the car... have for several years.

" This car was purchased new at New Baltimore Chrysler Plymouth INC July 7th 1970 by Leonard then passed to son in 1972, a one family owned car, 70's original title"

Thanks  



Quote from: Redbird on February 17, 2015, 01:00:27 AM
So last year you somehow got the car from the original family, or are brokering the car? Fine, so are you the second owner and the new owner will be the 3rd or higher owner? Nothing wrong with the simple facts.

Very nice job fixing it up.

IMHO still not a #2 car with the mismatch of colors and the Quarter panel decal challenges, can't get there from here. That said I hope you get a good price.

nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

Redbird





Superbird Vitamin C WIW??? --- Update --- 

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This car is a one family owner with the original window sticker from 1970.

Redmanf1

Ok so at least this would be correct "NASCAR list as the 36th conversion date Rec Nov-5 / date shipped Nov-12"

Thanks

Redbird


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I think we have been through this before.      I did state the facts and as I have said I own the car... have for several years.

" This car was purchased new at New Baltimore Chrysler Plymouth INC July 7th 1970 by Leonard then passed to son in 1972, a one family owned car, 70's original title"


Redmanf1

nascarxx29,
Thank you for your help.
I think I have everything correct to "I believe this Superbird is on the NASCAR list as the 36th conversion date Rec Nov-5 / date shipped Nov-12, it is Vitamin C Orange in color."



Quote from: nascarxx29 on February 17, 2015, 01:12:30 AM
http://s975.photobucket.com/user/Wingcars69/media/101_6101_zps95ec41bc.jpg.html

Redmanf1

The WIW has nothing to do with how long I have owned the car...

A lot of people follow forums before they register.


__________Date Registered:  October 28, 2010, 11:51:15 PM___________
   


Redmanf1

Maybe this would be a better statement. 

The purchaser could be the second non family titled owner. 

held1823

i'm lost. as usual.

i totally get the original owner/passed on to his son part. i will fall into the same category (with the added bonus of having the exact same name in my case).

both the father/son could be considered owner #1, and may have never applied for a new title in the son's name. (i don't intend to either, especially considering the name scenario mentioned above)

i assume the car is now titled in your name, making you owner #2, be it for six months, six years, or since the 1970's . if not, read no further.

if the above is correct, the person buying the car from you will be owner #3. the ownership trail is documented. the car's value does not depend on how many previous owners it's had nearly as much as knowing them all. two, three, twenty... the purchaser will know them all by name. why not just say you purchased the car from its original owners, and avoid any confusion.

you're splitting hairs when there is no need to. the car is documented, be it the 34th, 36th, or 1836th one on the list. that it is on the list is all that matters. it is a real superbird, with the paperwork trail to prove it.

the person most likely to buy a 100k car will come from one of three demographics.

1 -the fan who already knows the model's history.

2- the investor who will do his homework (or pay someone else for it)

3- the wealthy guy who could care less; he just thinks it's cool looking

post an ad with minimal verbiage and maximum photos - the car will sell itself if the price is right.


   

Ernie Helderbrand
XX29L9B409053

Ohio Chris

Quote from: held1823 on February 17, 2015, 02:40:29 AM
i'm lost. as usual.

i totally get the original owner/passed on to his son part. i will fall into the same category (with the added bonus of having the exact same name in my case).

both the father/son could be considered owner #1, and may have never applied for a new title in the son's name. (i don't intend to either, especially considering the name scenario mentioned above)

i assume the car is now titled in your name, making you owner #2, be it for six months, six years, or since the 1970's . if not, read no further.

if the above is correct, the person buying the car from you will be owner #3. the ownership trail is documented. the car's value does not depend on how many previous owners it's had nearly as much as knowing them all. two, three, twenty... the purchaser will know them all by name. why not just say you purchased the car from its original owners, and avoid any confusion.

you're splitting hairs when there is no need to. the car is documented, be it the 34th, 36th, or 1836th one on the list. that it is on the list is all that matters. it is a real superbird, with the paperwork trail to prove it.

the person most likely to buy a 100k car will come from one of three demographics.

1 -the fan who already knows the model's history.

2- the investor who will do his homework (or pay someone else for it)

3- the wealthy guy who could care less; he just thinks it's cool looking

post an ad with minimal verbiage and maximum photos - the car will sell itself if the price is right.


   

Well said, I completely agree.    The car speaks for itself.......

nascarxx29

Maybe inquire Mark at GYC he might have a buyer in mind.And he can assess its value in its as is present condition.We sent him a lead with a 440 superbird and 68 hemi charger unrestored under 38K miles on each car.For a old friend of mine who wanted to get a resto estimate who parked the pair in 75 and decided to sell them.Marc found a home for both cars.And explained the costs involved in todays market for parts resto and transport costs for a buyer.And what the current market value of them where.I got his email if you need it 
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

hemi68charger

Quote from: Redmanf1 on July 08, 2014, 06:53:26 PM
I am trying to figure out a fair market value for this 70 bird.

...  

Ah heck, I'll just trade ya for a nice 70 Challenger T/A 4-speed of mine.......  :icon_smile_big:
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

Redmanf1

Hi,
thank you for your help. I tried to send a PM but your message is full. My email is available under my username...







Nelson