Superbird Vitamin C WIW??? --- Update ---

[Redmanf1]

No problem, all is good .

Thanks

No worries, man - and no offense intended - just a little humor in regards to general "what's it worth" questions!   

We seem to get a billion of the WIW inquires from "newbies" on the site who really are just about turning a buck or in some cases are trying to "steal a car" that they've found and turn it as a quick resell - and based on some of the other comments on your post it looked like this one fit that pattern.

Ultimately, here's the deal.   It is ONLY worth exactly what a guy will hand you cash for....   everything else is speculation.   

Everyone on this board can tell you the car is worth $100,000, but IF I'm the only guy in front of you with REAL money - and I offer you $100 - then its worth $100.     Certainly, you're not obligated to take my offer because you may believe you can find someone who will pay you more - but worth is based on what someone will actually hand you in cash.   An offer to buy - defines the worth.  Other than that, its speculation.

My general opinion on worth is go look and see what they've actually sold for....   you can look at eBay history, Mecum, and BJ.    A real historical sale carries 10x the weight of a web opinion.

Good luck

Steve looks like your physic does not work worth a crap..
As I stated in an earlier post I have things to take care of before I advertise it for sale. My other reason for asking a current value was to see how much $$$ that I should put into as a partial restoration or correcting items. Like an $800 jack and handle is a no but clamps and battery cables and a few other things will be taken care of. I did not know the jack and handle were incorrect until posted here. Thank you to the other members that have been helpful, some of which I have talked to on the phone. If for some reason that you feel it is any of your business you are more than welcome to contact me.

Best regards

Nelson

OK - let me see if I can digest this and see what "truth" is in between the lines.   Maybe something like this....

"I don't actually own the car at all - but I know who does.   I'm trying to make a big profit for me and a little profit for him/her.    I figure what ever you all tell me its worth, I'll hit the guy at 25% less and see if he bites.   I actually don't give a crap about these cars at all - I just want to turn a quick buck with no investment time on my hands.    If its worth $120, I'll offer the guy $90 and then figure I can do a few tweaks and maybe get $140 for it.   OH CRAP!  The guy turned down my offer of $90 grand and has actually figured out the Bird is worth the $120 you all said it is.   My chance to make a few bucks as a middle man / broker just went all to heck!"

Pretty much sums it up?

[Redmanf1]

Pm's have been answered through email.

Thanks
Nelson

[Redmanf1]

It looks like in the next few weeks I will be addressing some of the things listed. Who would be a quality reseller to purchase things like the cables, clamps ect? Any ideas where to hide the electronic ignition?             
What hose clamps should it have?

Thanks for any help

Nelson




Engine
Paint on latch tray and z-braces might  be more consistent-if it is the original paint on the z-braces I'd probably leave it. The general look is neither; restored or survivor.
Hose clamps
Electronic Ignition-hide better
Grounds and container in drivers side nose-what is that?
Tray under intake needs paint
PB cover
Radiator-does it need an original one or a Glen-Ray?
Ignition wires
Does it need heater hose bracket(s)?
What is the throttle spring situation?
Added wiring on the firewall


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[Redmanf1]

I installed the factory Am/FM radio.  
I also found this car has a electric trunk release, I guess dealer installed. I know the car had dealer installed AC when purchased new.  
Installed new factory style hose clamps.
Cleaned up a few more things and moved the electric fan thermostat to a more hidden place.
Still have some things to do, trying to decide rather or not to install the original radiator, Opinions?
I have the original dist but I think I will leave the electronic one installed and just include the original.  
Getting ready to have the fender scoops and front air dam painted the color of the car.

Thanks for any opinions


Nelson

[Redmanf1]

[Redmanf1]

[Redmanf1]

Some engine pictures with original radiator.  

[oldcarnut]

Where did those floor mats come from?  I saw one set long time ago on Ebay but missed the bid.

[500Jon]

Real nice Bird Redman!

I think the prices will fall over the next few years myself.
There are plenty of Wingcar fans, but they ain't got that sorta money!
Done and dusted Wingcars are the domain of dealers and flippers.
They can make the market move by doing up-trades and down-trades.
By selling Folks on Tv, 50 year old trucks with a Tahoe engine for $40,000!
This makes the REAL collectible Wingcars seem a good price a $125,000.

I only know a few Folks that even have a $100,000 to spend on a Collector car.
I would love to buy your stunning Bird but, £65,000(=$102,000) would pay my mortgage off.
And I would sill have enough to buy another C500 lol......................................

It wasn't that long ago I could have bought a SuperBird here in England for £25,000 all done and DUSTED!

[Redmanf1]

Hi,
I have no idea they were in the car when I purchased it.

Where did those floor mats come from?  I saw one set long time ago on Ebay but missed the bid.

[Redmanf1]

Hi,
Thank you.
Mostly around here the price on muscle cars have been on a rise or at least that is what it seems.

Real nice Bird Redman!

I think the prices will fall over the next few years myself.
There are plenty of Wingcar fans, but they ain't got that sorta money!
Done and dusted Wingcars are the domain of dealers and flippers.
They can make the market move by doing up-trades and down-trades.
By selling Folks on Tv, 50 year old trucks with a Tahoe engine for $40,000!
This makes the REAL collectible Wingcars seem a good price a $125,000.

I only know a few Folks that even have a $100,000 to spend on a Collector car.
I would love to buy your stunning Bird but, £65,000(=$102,000) would pay my mortgage off.
And I would sill have enough to buy another C500 lol......................................

It wasn't that long ago I could have bought a SuperBird here in England for £25,000 all done and DUSTED!

[500Jon]

Hi Birdman,

Rollercoaster economics have a great effect on high dollar Collector cars.
Twenty five years ago a fully restored Classic MK1 Jaguar was around £50,000.
They dropped to half that and are now back where they were.
Do I see them as rare as a Wingcar, not really but I wouldn't buy one anyways lol!

Mother Mopar was selling Wingcars cheap and at a great loss just to make the punters buy them.
They are at the end of the day, a B-Body with extra bits.
No real pedigree like the Racecars, which weren't built by Creative anyways.
If Folks knew the future they would have treated them better I think???
Always an oddity and a HEAD-TURNER anywhere they go!
Not a daily driver by any means, its a headache for most Folks.
So what is anyone actually buying at $100,000+?
A Plymouth Roadrunner-GTX with $5,000 of add-ons.....
Only pulling ya leg RedBird.

Good luck with the sale and best wishes to the new owner.

[Redmanf1]

Thank you for your reply.


Nelson

[Redmanf1]

Added a few pictures above. Should be ready to get the fender scoops and front spoiler painted next week.




Nelson

[Redmanf1]

Try for clip.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52OcR_CDHiA&list=PLRtAPiEOf2QejEJJQSYi-8ygJGsVB5JoY

[Redmanf1]

The front fender scoops and spoiler are now painted the color of the car..

Nelson

[Redmanf1]

under hood

[Mopar Nut]

Sweet!!

[moparnation74]

Beautiful Bird!!

[nascarxx29]

Didnt see  a buildsheet or fender tag.But car is mentioned being the 64 th in the 1920 superbird serial number list U158615 if that's correct is recorded in 1979 as lemon twist yellow ron gross Ormond beach fl

[Redmanf1]

Well I know that is not correct so how do I find out the correct info? This is what I believe, this Superbird is the 34th car made. It is the 8th four barrel still in existence and is on the NASCAR list as the 36th conversion date Rec Nov-4 / date shipped Nov-12, it is Vitamin C Orange in color


Thanks
Nelson

[nascarxx29]

Dash vin door vin fender tag  its J97 number will authenticate it and maybe shed somelight on past owenship and the cars history

[Redmanf1]

I know the cars ownership and history. I just have the other incorrect info. Where do I get the info of the numbered list?

Thanks

[nascarxx29]

The list came out in 1977 of the 1920 superbird club has copies of it

[nascarxx29]

Florida car?MIght explain the added on air conditioning