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68 charger what to offer

Started by chargerman69, June 22, 2014, 01:53:16 PM

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chargerman69

Don't sure what to offer this charger only have one picture
Looked at this 68 Thursday and test driving it tonight,
It's a true 383 car just not numbers matching motor, trans is original
Non A/C
Factory color was green can still see green paint inside the trunk and under the carpet
Black seats
Non R/T
Q's and trunk floor have bin replaced years ago
Paint is fine for a driver but could use a new one
Door handles and order small chrome stuff could be redone or replaced
Rust free

chargerman69


70 sublime

If the frame is all good and the car is in Canada it will cost you $20 000 if you want to take it home
If it is in the US it will be closer to $15 000

Well my guess anyways
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

chargerman69

it's in Canada 70 sublime
went for a drive in it tonight road good
Taken some more pictures

chargerman69

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chargerman69

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chargerman69


1974dodgecharger

car does look nice, but as someone said its a 15k to 20k car im sure if It was on ebay it would fetch 20k or so.  Don't look too bad based on pics, nice car though great start that's for sure.

Daytona R/T SE

That rear valance is horrible.

That's a trouble spot on these cars.

Could be lots of problems lurking there. :Twocents:

70 sublime

How did you find out it was for sale, was it advertised or word of mouth ?
Curious was there an asking price ?
I like to try to keep up on the local (Canada) car prices

Biggest question  After your test drive did you like it enough to make an offer ?

David
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

chargerman69

I had a want ad for a 68 to 70 and he emailed me
He just said in the 20's didnt say what he wanted
I have not made a offer yet waiting till i know what its going cost to repaint in a year or two and change dums to disc

terrible one

Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on June 22, 2014, 09:47:33 PM
That rear valance is horrible.

That's a trouble spot on these cars.

Could be lots of problems lurking there. :Twocents:

Agreed, that's the first thing that stuck out to me when scrolling through the pictures.

1974dodgecharger

Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on June 22, 2014, 09:47:33 PM
That rear valance is horrible.

That's a trouble spot on these cars.

Could be lots of problems lurking there. :Twocents:

show me a car with no valence issues at 15k to 20k....

69charger2002

Quote from: terrible one on June 23, 2014, 07:48:59 PM
Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on June 22, 2014, 09:47:33 PM
That rear valance is horrible.

That's a trouble spot on these cars.

Could be lots of problems lurking there. :Twocents:

Agreed, that's the first thing that stuck out to me when scrolling through the pictures.

Ditto when i saw that back end my jaw dropped. that lower rear valance is beyond nasty
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jaak

Quote from: terrible one on June 23, 2014, 07:48:59 PM
Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on June 22, 2014, 09:47:33 PM
That rear valance is horrible.

That's a trouble spot on these cars.

Could be lots of problems lurking there. :Twocents:

Agreed, that's the first thing that stuck out to me when scrolling through the pictures.

Looks like someone made one out of a flat piece of sheet metal, it doesn't look like it has any contours to it, and the 'flange' that wraps around the bottom is too long. If the car is solid though, It wouldn't keep me from buying it, it can be replaced with a repop panel. As far as an offer... If it is solid, runs good, and checks out...I'd offer 15k, I think that's a fair 'real world' offer, then take it from there.

Jason


70 sublime

How does the car look from the side ?
The rear valence looks like it almost does not tuck under the car at enough of an angle
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

Mytur Binsdirti

Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on June 22, 2014, 09:47:33 PM
That rear valance is horrible.

That's a trouble spot on these cars.

Could be lots of problems lurking there. :Twocents:



Anyone want to wager that the valance isn't the only trouble spot?

73rallye440magnum

$15k for an operational and visually acceptable big block '68 with console and headrests, and everyone is having a stroke about a poorly fabricated rear valence? If the quarters and trunk floor were replaced with a little more concern for quality, that's a great price. I wish there was one of these on every street corner.
WTB- 68 or 69 project

Past- '73 Rallye U code, '69 Coronet 500 vert, '68 Roadrunner clone, XP29H8, XP29G8, XH29G0

Ghoste

I wouldn't say I'm having a stroke about it but to me, the valence is a red flag.  If they booger up such a visually noticeable part so much, whatever would make me think the unseen areas were done with quality?  The photo at the back shows me the car is far from rust free in the back.
However, I do agree that 15k for a running driving big block sounds like it should be a good price.  I also still believe that it has a lot of secrets.

73rallye440magnum

Red flag- yes. But not a nut buster. Pictures hide a lot, but OP mentions it needs a repaint. Plan on finding buried treasures once you start digging, but that's a great entry level price for a running driving amateur restoration. I would speculate the quarters would need rework and you'd want to buy a real lower valence.
WTB- 68 or 69 project

Past- '73 Rallye U code, '69 Coronet 500 vert, '68 Roadrunner clone, XP29H8, XP29G8, XH29G0

1974dodgecharger

Don't all cars 45 plus years old hide secrets unless your restoring like our turbin friend there at perfection.

Ghoste

Yes.  But its still amazing how many people look at the shiny parts of a car and then buy on price.  There is usually a reason a collectible car is "a great price".  Then when the time comes they decide to scuff the car down for the repaint that was admittedly needed, they're shocked by what they find and the enormous cost to repair things they ignored before.  The crappy valence is a warning, thats all.  It doesn't mean the car is condemned, it doesn't even mean there are hidden problems.  It means you need to keep your excitement in check and inspect.  As I said, the ad also claims the car is rust free but when you look at the photo of the rear beneath the valence, that is sure some odd looking crusty stuff under there.

1974dodgecharger

gotcha.....though I agree, but based on market right now that car is still 15k to 20k all day long based on the pics alone if going on ebay and other places and that's the sweet spot for our cars is that 15k to 20k range.

Mytur Binsdirti

Quote from: 73rallye440magnum on June 24, 2014, 06:44:16 AM
I would speculate the quarters would need replacing, and you'd want to buy a real lower valence, trunk floor, trunk floor extensions, rear frame rails, rear valance end caps, wheelhouses and any other additional substructures.


Fixed.  :yesnod:

73rallye440magnum

Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on June 24, 2014, 08:50:20 AM
Quote from: 73rallye440magnum on June 24, 2014, 06:44:16 AM
I would speculate the quarters would need replacing, and you'd want to buy a real lower valence, trunk floor, trunk floor extensions, rear frame rails, rear valance end caps, wheelhouses and any other additional substructures.


Fixed.  :yesnod:

Ha! Some of those items are a little easier to get a good idea of condition while inspecting. Easier to see!

I've seen 383 cars in lesser condition sell for more than the numbers being discussed here, so I think this example is worth pursuing.
WTB- 68 or 69 project

Past- '73 Rallye U code, '69 Coronet 500 vert, '68 Roadrunner clone, XP29H8, XP29G8, XH29G0

myk

None of us will know for sure until someone physically goes out there and runs their hands all over the car...

Ghoste


Mytur Binsdirti

Quote from: myk on June 24, 2014, 09:01:51 AM
None of us will know for sure until someone physically goes out there and runs their hands all over the car...


Watch out for sharp rusty edges; bring band aids just in case.  ;)

chargerman69

Thanks guys for your opinions
Am going go see a friend this week that does cars to have him take alook at it and let me know what will cost to fix the things wrong with it and if fine anymore

70 sublime

Maybe another question to ask is Why does he want to sell it ?
He called you from your want ad
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myk

Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on June 24, 2014, 09:05:54 AM
Quote from: myk on June 24, 2014, 09:01:51 AM
None of us will know for sure until someone physically goes out there and runs their hands all over the car...


Watch out for sharp rusty edges; bring band aids just in case.  ;)

Don't forget the tetanus shots.  But then again, real love is never easy...

Ghoste

chargerman, I hope it turns it out to be what you want.