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Anyone have laws like this where they are?

Started by Drache, June 22, 2014, 12:44:33 AM

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Drache

Here in BC we have what is called the Motor Vehicle Act which outlines the laws on driving. Now one of these new laws is called Stunting. Pretty much anything "fun" you might do in a car is against the law.

Doing a burnout, a doughnut, jumping the car, hydraulic bouncing, drifting, revving your engine, etc.

What most don't realize in BC, not only are laws enforced on public road ways but also private road ways. That includes parking lots and even your own driveway! That's right, if you rev your engine and do a standing burn out in your own drive way, you can be arrested, have your car impounded for 7 days, lost your license for at least 15 days, and be fined $200 or more per offense (a burn out can land you about 4 or more offenses).

A guy I talk to a few cities over just found out the car way with his race car.  :-\
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polywideblock

we have similar laws but only on "public " roads  :yesnod:


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Ghoste

Same in Ontario.  Stunt driving is pretty much left to the officers discretion as far as determining what it comprises and the punishments can be equally draconian.
I don't condone street racing or anything which endangers the public but if I lose my car for revving the engine, thats seems a bit extreme to me.

70 sublime

So how much longer are you going to keep the Dart  :brickwall:
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J.Bond

On  private property, seems out of line, however, it must fall under the same rules as, operating a motorized vehicle under the influence. Apparently, if you are cutting the front lawn on a motorized lawn tractor, and appear to be under in influence. You can be charged!!!!. I spent the day at Grand Bend yesterday , and no one lost their cars from doing burnouts :smilielol:


I believe the enforces of such law , should also abide by the same rules,  :Twocents: They apparently, can speed , drive erratically, and talk on their cell phones all at the same time :flame:



Drache

Quote from: J.Bond on June 22, 2014, 08:06:27 AM
On  private property, seems out of line, however, it must fall under the same rules as, operating a motorized vehicle under the influence.

In other provinces, Private Roadways are not enforceable by their traffic act. I think BC and Ontario are the only two.

Quote from: 70 sublime on June 22, 2014, 07:43:15 AM
So how much longer are you going to keep the Dart  :brickwall:

Plan on keeping the Dart for as long as I can! They can't stop the power!  :2thumbs:

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RallyeMike

Here I know two guys who have built dirt tracks in their own yards. One is on just a 5-acre parcel.
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J.Bond

Quote from: RallyeMike on June 22, 2014, 08:45:43 AM
Here I know two guys who have built dirt tracks in their own yards. One is on just a 5-acre parcel.

The problem with that is, the above rules still apply. I would love to install an airstrip on my property, and occasionally use it for motorsport TESTING......With that said, I would, no less than the two above mentioned individuals, be wide open on the liability side. It's all coming down to reducing the act of BEING STUPID. Yesterday , I actually had to sign a insurance waiver just to enter a drag race facility, first time in the 45 years of taking in race events, that I have ever been asked to do so. Sign stated---Print and sign your name---Failing to do so, deems you, to be trespassing!!!!

Gotta love, the way things are going....


Drache

Quote from: J.Bond on June 22, 2014, 09:21:58 AM
Quote from: RallyeMike on June 22, 2014, 08:45:43 AM
Here I know two guys who have built dirt tracks in their own yards. One is on just a 5-acre parcel.

The problem with that is, the above rules still apply. I would love to install an airstrip on my property, and occasionally use it for motorsport TESTING......With that said, I would, no less than the two above mentioned individuals, be wide open on the liability side. It's all coming down to reducing the act of BEING STUPID. Yesterday , I actually had to sign a insurance waiver just to enter a drag race facility, first time in the 45 years of taking in race events, that I have ever been asked to do so. Sign stated---Print and sign your name---Failing to do so, deems you, to be trespassing!!!!

Gotta love, the way things are going....



See IF I built my own dragstrip or just a piece of concrete in the middle of my yard and did burnouts on that, then I'd be safe since it's not a "roadway"
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JB400

Sounds like you old farts are spoiling it for us young guns :brickwall:  Thanks   ;)

About every track I've been to, I've had to sign an insurance waiver, at least going pit side anyway.

Ghoste

Not us.  Its the multitudes out there who are never responsible for anything and know there is always someone to sue and the lawyers who encourage them.  I think ground zero would be the stupid bitch who successfully sued McDonalds for not warning her that hot coffee is hot.

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Cooter

Word to the wise, remove your license plates when making a pass at the track, in your street car.
hadda buddy get a nice little notice about his factory warranty.
also, some (not all) insurance companies like to hang out and see who's totalling rides.
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Drache

Quote from: Cooter on June 22, 2014, 11:59:51 AM
Word to the wise, remove your license plates when making a pass at the track, in your street car.
hadda buddy get a nice little notice about his factory warranty.
also, some (not all) insurance companies like to hang out and see who's totalling rides.

That is true. ICBC (which has a monopoly on car insurance) does not cover racing cars on the strip. If you total your driver on the strip you're SOL. 
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Ghoste

Thats likely been the case for a long time though jsut about everywhere right?

John_Kunkel

Quote from: J.Bond on June 22, 2014, 08:06:27 AM
On  private property, seems out of line,

Problem is, the noise from those activities carries beyond the property.
Pardon me but my karma just ran over your dogma.

Ghoste

So we should shut down all activities where the sound carries past the property line and disturbs people beyond that limit.

Mopar4me

Quote from: Cooter on June 22, 2014, 11:59:51 AM
Word to the wise, remove your license plates when making a pass at the track, in your street car.
hadda buddy get a nice little notice about his factory warranty.
also, some (not all) insurance companies like to hang out and see who's totalling rides.
seen this happen too!

Mopar Nut

Wow, I haven't heard anything like that since I was a teenager in the seventies. My daily drivers were muscle cars driven back and forth to high school. I did have long hair, wide tires and oversized exhaust, but that was forty years ago too.

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I guess I grew up in the beginning of the end of the "Glory Years of the Muscle Car" roaming the streets for hours though out the evenings just driving around the "Circuit", as it was called here (On some nights, I don't know which was hotter, the cars or the girls)? Working on the cars to get them to run better with what was available from the local speed shops and a few mail order places within our cash budget. It was nothing like what is available nowadays, and where can you exercise todays powerhouse cars and not piss anybody off? A drag strip, on the weekend in a line up waiting for your couple second runs, maybe get a few runs in that day. Looks like nowadays everybody has to sign off so as not to involve anybody in there mishap should something happen. Is there as much fun in the motor sport nowadays? I love to see any car go down a strip, modified street cars and Nostalgia Race cars are my favorites. I no longer condone street racing at this time, although I'd done my share of it, late 70's early 80's, some would say a race every 15 minutes, more or less. Every street race had different variables to be figured in, and had to be recalculated quickly. To say the old timers made it bad for the young'uns, well were just in a different time and place and people change, we just have to adapt or conquer. So build up your cars and support a local drag strip or car show, it may be all you have left.         
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John_Kunkel

Quote from: Ghoste on June 22, 2014, 03:05:28 PM
So we should shut down all activities where the sound carries past the property line and disturbs people beyond that limit.

No, only obnoxious noises like those in the OP. (I know, who decides what's obnoxious)
Pardon me but my karma just ran over your dogma.

Ghoste

Exactly John, what is pleasing to one is disgusting to another.

ws23rt

Everyone has a responsibility to use reasonable judgment about what they do and were they do it.

Some will fart in an elevator for example but that is cruel and all involved are affected against their will.

Open pipes on harleys are a bit much but to rapp them to let all within a half mile know they are there is another example of inconsiderate behaviour.

Those that want to piss people off intentionally are the ones I have a problem with.  It's very like road rage which is caused by provocative acts.

Come on you dickheads (you know who you are)  You are the reason stupid laws have to be made. :slap:

MaximRecoil

Quote from: John_Kunkel on June 22, 2014, 02:45:37 PM
Quote from: J.Bond on June 22, 2014, 08:06:27 AM
On  private property, seems out of line,

Problem is, the noise from those activities carries beyond the property.

That only justifies a generic noise ordinance violation, the same as if you were e.g., playing a high-powered stereo too loud in your house, not a "stunting" charge. If you can be charged with "stunting" on "private property", that means there is really no such thing as private property in such cases, by definition.

J.Bond

Quote from: MaximRecoil on June 27, 2014, 06:47:03 PM
Quote from: John_Kunkel on June 22, 2014, 02:45:37 PM
Quote from: J.Bond on June 22, 2014, 08:06:27 AM
On  private property, seems out of line,

Problem is, the noise from those activities carries beyond the property.

That only justifies a generic noise ordinance violation, the same as if you were e.g., playing a high-powered stereo too loud in your house, not a "stunting" charge. If you can be charged with "stunting" on "private property", that means there is really no such thing as private property in such cases, by definition.

That pretty much sums it up. Keep in mind, I, as a land owner, only own the rights to live on the Queens land (Canada) , and she and her staff can pretty much regulate everything I do.