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Superbird nosecone

Started by Nwcharger, June 19, 2014, 12:38:21 PM

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Nwcharger

I have an original bird nose I'm gonna take to Carlisle to sell. I was wondering what would be a fare price to ask? Its fairly straight and not rusty. Its just the nose.  :2thumbs:
1969 coronet wagon

Aero426

What does "fairly straight" mean?    Not trying to be rude.   

Nwcharger

Quote from: Aero426 on June 19, 2014, 12:40:40 PM
What does "fairly straight" mean?    Not trying to be rude.   

It has a few dings here and there but has no filler and doesn't appear to have been wrecked and straightened before. I can post a couple pics tonight. 
1969 coronet wagon

Aero426

 :2thumbs:

If it is in good condition, it should not be hard to sell.

mopar4ya

Do you have some pictures you could post ?

Nwcharger

pics
1969 coronet wagon

Nwcharger

pics
1969 coronet wagon

Nwcharger

last ones.
1969 coronet wagon

chargerman69

I want it bet can't spend the money, I bet the lady that wrecked the front of a orange one last year still needs one   
http://moparblog.com/tag/wrecks/

daytonalo

Nice ! I would hate to see a fairly dented one !

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Mytur Binsdirti

Quote from: chargerman69 on June 22, 2014, 09:53:12 PM
I want it bet can't spend the money, I bet the lady that wrecked the front of a orange one last year still needs one   
http://moparblog.com/tag/wrecks/


She is interested & I hope that I can get her & the seller to agree on a price.   :2thumbs:

PM to the seller has been sent.

Hemi Runner

I offered her my Gene Gregory repop for what I paid for it and never heard back. I figured they were holding out for an original, although I'm not sure how you'd tell a repop from an original.

RallyeMike

QuoteNice ! I would hate to see a fairly dented one !

"Fairly straight" is in the eye of the beholder. Especially compared to a certain Daytona.  :icon_smile_big:

It looks plenty fixable. Considering how many real nose cones are currently available, its a gem.
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FJ5WING

Quote from: Hemi Runner on June 23, 2014, 05:42:28 PM
I offered her my Gene Gregory repop for what I paid for it and never heard back. I figured they were holding out for an original, although I'm not sure how you'd tell a repop from an original.

sheesh!
How hard is it to acknowledge someone for an offer even if you decline? This why I sit on most of my stuff, but something pushed me to reach out recently to someones parts wanted request.
wingless now, but still around.

Mopar John

Quote from: FJ5WING on June 24, 2014, 12:33:49 PM
Quote from: Hemi Runner on June 23, 2014, 05:42:28 PM
I offered her my Gene Gregory repop for what I paid for it and never heard back. I figured they were holding out for an original, although I'm not sure how you'd tell a repop from an original.

sheesh!
How hard is it to acknowledge someone for an offer even if you decline? This why I sit on most of my stuff, but something pushed me to reach out recently to someones parts wanted request.
FJ5WING,
I hope that you had a happy result in reaching out to help that person!
Now days you have to dig out the part and send a reply with a description and picture and price.
If you get a response then you have to box it and calculate shipping.
If you don't get a reply after all that it makes you not want to do it again and again!
MJ

XS29J

Quote from: Mopar John on June 24, 2014, 05:40:20 PM
Quote from: FJ5WING on June 24, 2014, 12:33:49 PM
Quote from: Hemi Runner on June 23, 2014, 05:42:28 PM
I offered her my Gene Gregory repop for what I paid for it and never heard back. I figured they were holding out for an original, although I'm not sure how you'd tell a repop from an original.

sheesh!
How hard is it to acknowledge someone for an offer even if you decline? This why I sit on most of my stuff, but something pushed me to reach out recently to someones parts wanted request.
FJ5WING,
I hope that you had a happy result in reaching out to help that person!
Now days you have to dig out the part and send a reply with a description and picture and price.
If you get a response then you have to box it and calculate shipping.
If you don't get a reply after all that it makes you not want to do it again and again!
MJ

You forgot the rest::::::

you get paid with PAYPAL then the buyer says:

it never showed up
was not as you described
is not perfect
has a chip
was damaged in shipping and it is your fault

files a grievance with PAYPAL and Money is froze or removed from your acct.

NOW he bargains: 

offers less
will not pay to return item
sends back totally different item than what you sent(this has happened twice)
stalls forever until you basically give up and take the shipping amount for the item

CONCLUSSION

NO PAYPAL!!!
Don't sell items unless Postal Money order
Don't ship most pick up
SAD SAD SAD but that's what it has come to...

PrisonHack

  I won't even get started on my hatred for Paypal

FJ5WING

WOW!

You guys are making me glad Im not much of a seller.
Unfortunately I am going to have to begin selling because Ive got way more stuff including an entire car that wont all fit into the home garage. :P
wingless now, but still around.

Nwcharger

The main reason I'm considering selling the bird nose is to fund an original Daytona nose. Anyone know where to find one? Still don't know what to ask for the nose. Was thinking 2-4k but have no idea. Any thoughts? :2thumbs:
1969 coronet wagon

FJ5WING

If the owner of the wrecked orange bird is looking for an original nose youre in the drivers seat and think the high end of youre range. pull the trigger and take it to Carlisle so both parties can save on shipping.
If the buyer is seemingly hesitant Im not sure they really want an original part.
wingless now, but still around.

DAY CLONA

Quote from: Nwcharger on June 27, 2014, 09:34:25 AM
The main reason I'm considering selling the bird nose is to fund an original Daytona nose. Anyone know where to find one? Still don't know what to ask for the nose. Was thinking 2-4k but have no idea. Any thoughts? :2thumbs:



IMHO it's pretty beat, but all there, and not blown out rust wise, but I've seen a hell of lot worse sell for some serious coin, I'd start at $4800 and let them beat you up a little on price, bottom line I'd let it go would be $3800 to $4200 depending on how bad I need the cash, Sure a Gean Gregory "new" nose is approx. $5-6K depending on his mood that day, but some people are obsessed with having original sheetmetal, regardless of the cost to fix it, that nose is a hammer/dolly nightmare for the body guy that has to straighten it, never mind the amount of final blockings when it gets to the primer stages, I've had people bring me nosecones in the past far worse than this, and tell me they layed out $4-$5K because there's not much out there for original sheetmetal that's "affordable" and in somewhat salvageable condition, if your in no rush to move it, then hold out for that desperate buyer with cash,....mark it up to $6K, or do the work it needs, then you'll have a $10K piece, but it can't be a bondo bucket to get that kind of coin, pick/hammer/dolly all the way, but if the short dollar is your choice then do as I mentioned above

Mike

Redbird

I think what this shows is that the NOS cones listed or sold for $10K to $12K are a pretty fair deal considering what the condition/price of the topic of this thread is. The best thing here seems to be lack of rust.

I think I could tell a Gregory or McGaughey reproduction cone by looking at the top back piece.

nascarxx29

John board member GOTWING had a spare repairable nose he had for sale but no decent offers when it was on facebbok .After getting a nos one
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

Hemi Runner

Quote from: Redbird on June 27, 2014, 06:52:45 PM
I think what this shows is that the NOS cones listed or sold for $10K to $12K are a pretty fair deal considering what the condition/price of the topic of this thread is. The best thing here seems to be lack of rust.

I think I could tell a Gregory or McGaughey reproduction cone by looking at the top back piece.

I'm not so sure. Maybe off the car and up close. I think once it's painted and mounted, it'd be very hard to tell. My repop was 5K and I'm betting it'd save thousands in hammer and dolly work and might translate into a better overall finished product.

Nwcharger

Ill be bringing it to Carlisle to sell along with a repo Daytona rear glass. Thats about all the aero parts i have to sell. Putting a 4500 tag on it but open to offers. Spot r12. Travling most the country too so if your in my travel area i could deliver too. Also have a v code 4 speed superbee shell that will be there.
1969 coronet wagon

Redbird

Hemi Runner, very nice group of all steel pieces.

My point was: that $10-12K for a NOS cone is pretty much in line, maybe more.

If I was buying a car, and I am not, would I discount my offer if it was a reproduction cone shell? Certainly! By at least $6-8K. Much more if the guts were reproductions.

There are plenty of other things to discount a car for that might be more, but a reproduction cone is one of them too.

I have some experience here, I looked for about 20 years to find 1 unrusted, unbent z-bracket one of my cars was missing. To me the cone is a big part of the car, if you have to use reproduction parts, so be it, but they are not original, they cost less, and they will never be original.

As to the subject cone, I have no where any of the skills to bring it back. I don't think I'd ever attempt it because I could not afford to even ask the right questions on how to get it fixed.

Redbird

I was at the Back to the 50's car show in St. Paul last weekend. Over 10,000 cars, lots of great ones. There was a Chrysler 300F, beautiful car, well detailed, well presented, the owner had driven it up from Chicago so it could be driven. The hood was up and on the passenger side radiator brace were a bunch of shims, past accident, never straightened out right. I didn't like the car any less for that, and I'd love to own it or drive it, but your eyes went straight to one place under the hood.

fastmark

I have heard that is or was a guy making repop noses that would repair damages ones. I have a nose that is damaged but not nearly as bad as what the one in the picture. Where would be a good source to have it repaired? It would need to be put on a jig to straighten it I'm sure. I have a new one on mine and all in paint so I would not want it trial fitted on my car.

DAY CLONA

Quote from: fastmark on July 03, 2014, 08:14:19 PM
I have heard that is or was a guy making repop noses that would repair damages ones. I have a nose that is damaged but not nearly as bad as what the one in the picture. Where would be a good source to have it repaired? It would need to be put on a jig to straighten it I'm sure. I have a new one on mine and all in paint so I would not want it trial fitted on my car.






You may be thinking of Jack McGaughey, he passed away last year, Jack fabricated Daytona/Superbird cones in steel, as well as repairing original cones

fastmark

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