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Started by Ghoste, June 18, 2014, 02:25:03 PM

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Ghoste

And it has screen time.  :icon_smile_big:

Dreamcar

The biggest wall-hanger movie prop ever?
"And another thing, when I gun the motor, I want people to think the world is coming to an end." - Homer Simpson

1969 Charger, 383, Q5/V1W, A35, H51, N88,  numbers match (under restoration)

70 sublime

Question

So is the guy that is really driving that THING sitting in the very front facing the back ?

Nope on closer look I see another guy in the roll cage  ;)
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

Ghoste

It's quite the rig isn't it?

Ghoste

On a related note, this is all they needed to film the Autotrader commercial, the rig in the first pic is from the movie.

wingcar

But the real question is..............how far can it jump?   :D
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1967 Charger (360,6-pak/Auto)
2008 Challenger SRT8 BLK (6.1/Auto) 6050 of 6400

Mike DC

 
Heh, heh . . .  .


That whole way of shooting has been getting obsoleted.   These days the CGI guys can make a green-screened-in backdrop look pretty much undetectable. 



MaximRecoil

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on June 18, 2014, 04:48:45 PM
 
Heh, heh . . .  .


That whole way of shooting has been getting obsoleted.   These days the CGI guys can make a green-screened-in backdrop look pretty much undetectable.  

Chroma keyed (AKA: "green screen" / "blue screen") backgrounds for driving scenes have always been quite convincing, even prior to CGI. The thing that looks cheesy / obviously fake is when they project background footage onto a big screen in a studio, place the car beside it, and then film it. This is what they did for the original Dukes of Hazzard series, once they got to California, like so:



Had they used chroma key it would have looked a lot better, but that is also more expensive / time consuming. Ironically, one of the cheapest/easiest methods also looks the best; simply tow the car with a tow bar, on a dolly, or on a low trailer to film the closeup driving scenes. This is what they did in the first 5 episodes (Georgia episodes).

Kern Dog

I think that rig was designed by a Dan Bradley, the second unit director of the Dukes 2005 movie. The rig was named the "Go Mobile" because it was able to be fitted to a variety of different cars for in car camera footage.

Mike DC

The old projected stuff on "Dukes" looks laughable when you first see the show.  

But once you get used to it, it works.  It's not distracting from the drama of the show and it surely saved them a lot of money.  With a finite amount of money to do any given episode IMO there were better places to put it than towing the cars around with actors inside for hours doing dialogue.  The projection work had to end up being much cheaper once the series got going.


Modern CGI'd backgrounds can look better than the blue-screened optical printed stuff used to.  It has impressed me.  

MaximRecoil

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on June 18, 2014, 09:39:10 PM
The old projected stuff on "Dukes" looks laughable when you first see the show.  

But once you get used to it, it works.  It's not distracting from the drama of the show and it surely saved them a lot of money.  With a finite amount of money to do any given episode IMO there were better places to put it than towing the cars around with actors inside for hours doing dialogue.  The projection work had to end up being much cheaper once the series got going.

The projector driving scenes don't bother me, though it is obviously fake and reminds me of the movie "Airplane!" when they spoofed projected car driving scenes in old movies (and projected horse/wagon scenes in Westerns). What I do find annoying is the indoor set scenes made up to look like outdoors (like the one they sometimes used for the front yard of the Duke farm; always shown at the same angle and relatively closeup). There are a lot of those scenes in the "Mason Dixon's Girls" episode; i.e., every shot where they showed them hanging out around or on top of their motorhome and the entire scene where they are setting up the hang gliders. The lighting is horrible in those scenes; looks nothing like sunlight. At least in the projected driving scenes, even though they are filmed inside, you are still seeing real sunlight in the projected film.

Bandit72

I don't mind the projected driving scenes so much...when they started jumping miniatures though that was pretty horrible...
Daddy ran whiskey in a big black dodge
bought it at an auction at the masons lodge,
Johnson County Sherriff painted on the side,
just shot a coat of primer then he looked inside,
well him and my uncle tore that engine down,
I still remember that rumblin' sound.....

myk

I guess I could either get one of those or a Go-Pro...

MaximRecoil

Quote from: Bandit72 on June 19, 2014, 09:31:59 AM
I don't mind the projected driving scenes so much...when they started jumping miniatures though that was pretty horrible...

That was the absolute worst thing they ever did. Even reusing stock footage from earlier jumps (which they had been doing here and there since season 2) would have been infinitely better than those toy car jumps.

VegasCharger

Quote from: MaximRecoil on June 18, 2014, 09:59:27 PM
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on June 18, 2014, 09:39:10 PM
The old projected stuff on "Dukes" looks laughable when you first see the show.  

But once you get used to it, it works.  It's not distracting from the drama of the show and it surely saved them a lot of money.  With a finite amount of money to do any given episode IMO there were better places to put it than towing the cars around with actors inside for hours doing dialogue.  The projection work had to end up being much cheaper once the series got going.

The projector driving scenes don't bother me, though it is obviously fake and reminds me of the movie "Airplane!" when they spoofed projected car driving scenes in old movies (and projected horse/wagon scenes in Westerns). What I do find annoying is the indoor set scenes made up to look like outdoors (like the one they sometimes used for the front yard of the Duke farm; always shown at the same angle and relatively closeup). There are a lot of those scenes in the "Mason Dixon's Girls" episode; i.e., every shot where they showed them hanging out around or on top of their motorhome and the entire scene where they are setting up the hang gliders. The lighting is horrible in those scenes; looks nothing like sunlight. At least in the projected driving scenes, even though they are filmed inside, you are still seeing real sunlight in the projected film.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrktxWUgcyA

Kern Dog

Quote from: MaximRecoil on June 19, 2014, 11:14:54 AM
Quote from: Bandit72 on June 19, 2014, 09:31:59 AM
I don't mind the projected driving scenes so much...when they started jumping miniatures though that was pretty horrible...

That was the absolute worst thing they ever did. Even reusing stock footage from earlier jumps (which they had been doing here and there since season 2) would have been infinitely better than those toy car jumps.

Abso-freakin-lutely.
The switch to the toy car stunts was absolutely pathetic. To make matters even worse, they did stunts far more impossible and outlandish. The same crap was done on The Fall Guy" and "Knight Rider". In a TV show about DOH, Tom Wopat admitted that the fake stunts were an embarrasment.

Mike DC

  
DOH didn't exactly get a noble death.  It kept succeeding even when they under-funded it, so they kept on cutting the funding down farther to milk it dry.  

By the 7th season they were getting about half the amount of filming days per episode as they had in the early seasons.  That's an indicator of what they were spending on it. 



Miniatures are like so many movie tricks - great when used in moderation, terrible when overused or cutting corners.

Cooter

It's gotta be in Ghoste's words, 'A TV middle finger' to those leeches that even after 35 years, it's still more popular than Honey Boo Boo.
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

Ghoste

Don't say that!  My youngest found some station yesterday that was doing a Honey Boo Boo marathon and everytime I passed the family room I had to hear it.  I'm Honey Boo Boo-ed out for the rest of the year I'm sure. (how is that even a show?) :RantExplode:

Dreamcar

Quote from: Ghoste on June 20, 2014, 06:49:52 AM
Don't say that!  My youngest found some station yesterday that was doing a Honey Boo Boo marathon and everytime I passed the family room I had to hear it.  I'm Honey Boo Boo-ed out for the rest of the year I'm sure. (how is that even a show?) :RantExplode:

That's a show for the same reason the Kardashians have a show...somehow over the last decade or so, people have become famous for doing absolutely nothing and not having any talent!!!
"And another thing, when I gun the motor, I want people to think the world is coming to an end." - Homer Simpson

1969 Charger, 383, Q5/V1W, A35, H51, N88,  numbers match (under restoration)

Ghoste

And thats the other one, my oldest puts Kardashians on all the time.  :brickwall:

GL#10

By the sixth season the W.b where getting so cheap they wouldn't even budget new tires for the Gl's  , season 7 was no different , with the miniatures they used very little of the Gl's they had on hand , same with the N.D cars they would just get a new coat of paint , last episode they repainted one of the Jesse pickups for use as the bad guys vehicle .

The pic at this start of this thread is Movie GL #007  , it has since been restored back to a full rolling driving General  .