'69 500 Project

[73rallye440magnum]

You don't see many C500 projects show up on craigslist.

Anyone recognize this one?

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/cto/4522443473.html

[Ghoste]

I don't recognize it, could use a few more photos in the ad that's for sure.

[held1823]

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[nascarxx29]

Robins egg blue original color .Does he mean Petty blue?

[Ghoste]

I assume so, I'm a bit skeptical on that but open minded.

[nascarxx29]

Kinda of remember a Hemi 500 that was found in Petty blue in Fl .Dont recall if it was a true 999

[nascarxx29]

https://www.google.com/search?q=%221969+Charger+500+426+Hemi,+4-speed%22&tbm=isch&imgil=dcxIY_FXkRRc7M%253A%253Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fencrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com%252Fimages%253Fq%253Dtbn%253AANd9GcQfFMACc3LzSpeUjuz2oRhKrLulnsbuyjGEEYnBpg8YmMtb-zic%253B500%253B340%253BZyAOmVUPgYO8NM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.carsinbarns.com%25252Fnew38.html&source=iu&usg=__z_MXEkHt3LTwDqOO9XWgV-nfEpY%3D&sa=X&ei=CzqgU4XYMI-WyASIwYDgCA&ved=0CCEQ9QEwAQ&biw=987&bih=587#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=dcxIY_FXkRRc7M%253A%3BZyAOmVUPgYO8NM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.carsinbarns.com%252Fnew_pictures%252F325.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.carsinbarns.com%252Fnew38.html%3B500%3B340

[Ghoste]

White engine bay.

[richRTSE]

Robins egg blue original color .Does he mean Petty blue?

I was thinking maybe b3 or q5? Would be nice to see more picts...I think I spy a trailer hitch under the license plate....car does look fairly solid from those 2 crappy photos posted, just not seeing $50k there though...

[WINGMAN]

  I am thinking 30K  more maybe 35 if no big rust issues. 50 is over the top for a 440 auto car in my opinion. You need to be a BIG 500 lover, there are still lots of people out there that never herd or have seen a 69 500.     Jay.

[73rallye440magnum]

Can a 440 auto command low six figures if nicely done? Numbers matching with some original paperwork.

[Ghoste]

I'm inclined to say no but that Hemi Cuda at Mecum shocked the hell out of me so who knows?

[hemi68charger]

Can a 440 auto command low six figures if nicely done? Numbers matching with some original paperwork.

I would have to agree with the previous response........ Maybe an ultra-nice survivor ( if one exists )........ But even with that, it is a stretch.

[RallyeMike]

It sounds relatively rust free for a Wisconsin car and would be great find for someone interested in a distinct 500. B3 is not a common color and would be striking with the B5 guts. For those interested, the price sounds to be quite negotiable.

[XS29LA47V21]

Can a 440 auto command low six figures if nicely done? Numbers matching with some original paperwork.

I would have to agree with the previous response........ Maybe an ultra-nice survivor ( if one exists )........ But even with that, it is a stretch.

I thought bug shield was an original paint car, sure looked good in photos to me...

As far as blue, my money is on if blue car... it will be B5 is my bet.  Personally can't think of even 10ea B3 69Chargers with any motor combo..... but wouldn't that be cool a B3 500.   Priced high imo,fwiw

[69_500]

Anyone get a hold of seller? Tried contacting to no avail.

[Ghoste]

Same here Danny.

[RallyeMike]

I spoke with him afew days ago. He didnt have any pictures but said the fender tag is definitely coded B3 paint with B5 interior. Though repainted dark blue in the 70's (with an added floral print roof and stripe  ), the firewall in the engine compartment still has the original B3 paint showing. It was repainted because the wife hated the light blue color.

[XS29LA47V21]

I spoke with him afew days ago. He didnt have any pictures but said the fender tag is definitely coded B3 paint with B5 interior. Though repainted dark blue in the 70's (with an added floral print roof and stripe  ), the firewall in the engine compartment still has the original B3 paint showing. It was repainted because the wife hated the light blue color.

Good ..........I am wrong, another apparently nice optioned, well maintained car creeps out on the market.
that is really cool a B3 500, personally never heard of another.

[69_500]

If any of you guys gets to talk to him again, feel free to pass along my phone number to him. I want to talk him.

[69_500]

Would not help in trying to get the price down, but I had heard for years that there were only 2 B3 500's out there. Personally I have not seen either one.

[RallyeMike]

Any idea where the info came from that there were only 2 B3 500's ever made? Considering that the sales records are lost, it seems odd that something as detailed as paint color production #'s would be positively known.

The brother of one of my high school friends repainted a 69 RT 440-4speed B3/B5 car for a school project in 1979. I have never seen another Charger in that color combination. That car made a big impression on me. I hope someone is able to pick up this B3/B5 500 and bring her back to life.

[nascarxx29]

B3 69 Charger R/T ? http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1373/5111546379_a6a6c8284a_b.jpg

[69_500]

I have not ever seen a document saying there were only two built, just was told they only did. At this point it is all hearsay. But there are very few colors that I can not say I have not seen a 500 in. But personally have not seen a B3 one in person yet.

[Highbanked Hauler]

robins egg blue sure sounds like a B-3 car..

[73rallye440magnum]

I'm surprised one of you hasn't gotten to the bottom of this yet! 

[richRTSE]

I see he has added more picts to the ad, and lowered the price to $40k...really looks like a solid car, and complete- has rear window and trim, A-pillar moldings, interior complete, etc...maybe some rust issues in the taillight panel and rear valance area?  Anyone know if engine and trans are original? He doesn't mention that in the ad....

[held1823]

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[held1823]

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[held1823]

vastly improved photos from the original two seen here

[73rallye440magnum]

I see he has added more picts to the ad, and lowered the price to $40k...really looks like a solid car, and complete- has rear window and trim, A-pillar moldings, interior complete, etc...maybe some rust issues in the taillight panel and rear valance area?  Anyone know if engine and trans are original? He doesn't mention that in the ad....

There is a screenshot of the original listing on the first page of this thread. Owner claims all numbers match.

With better pictures now, what's it worth?

[held1823]

if it's indeed numbers matching, i'd say $35,000 - even $37,000 wouldn't be unrealistic for the desirable color. the seller is now asking $40,00 OBO, so there is some wiggle room.  the bright aero trim parts are there - wonder if all of the grille filler pieces are

here is the revised ad

[73rallye440magnum]

A fairly well restored (wrong color) comp for $75k. I know the aero market is a bit of a niche, and to me seems a little volatile. Is that a fair statement? No hard feelings implied, just curious.

Can the B3 car be restored to this level for $35k? I don't think so, but restorations aren't always financially sound endeavors. The $75k car seems like a good buy unless someone has some dirt on it.

http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/carsforsale/dodge/charger/1658211.html

[held1823]

tough call. the one you linked to on hemmings is a beautiful car. the color change improved the visual appeal, but almost certainly at the expense of the car's value. the car has a second strike against it besides the color change, that being the non matching numbers. to some (me included) that's not the end of the world, but to many it is a deal breaker.

a huge factor to consider is the price of admission. not everyone can cough up 75k the same as 35k. for the ones that cannot, the project car is their only option. perhaps a full restoration isn't even their goal. the project car could be a driver for a few grand in replacement parts, and turn just as many (if not more) heads at the local cruise-in.

i'm totally on the b5 bandwagon, but the rarity of b3 paint would be worth a premium. just how much i do not know.

[Daytona R/T SE]

I want the trailer hitch. 

[XS29LA47V21]

A fairly well restored (wrong color) comp for $75k. I know the aero market is a bit of a niche, and to me seems a little volatile. Is that a fair statement? No hard feelings implied, just curious.

Can the B3 car be restored to this level for $35k? I don't think so, but restorations aren't always financially sound endeavors. The $75k car seems like a good buy unless someone has some dirt on it.

http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/carsforsale/dodge/charger/1658211.html

Still curious to the color, but I am inclined to think it is B5 because of the thin paint on hood.  I like the B3, but I am not in the stack of available 500s that there is much value between a B3, B5 or B7 of which most do not care for B7 which at this point in my life is my favorite of the three.  But does have value over a green, red, bronze or gold, IMO.

how about three colors in this same condition.. a F5 vs B3 vs silver or black?  Unspecific to full number, what do you think the spread it there?  I could see a 25-30 spread which maybe mirrors restored cars too...maybe?

I think you hit it on the head.  Unless someone is capable of doing all the work, frankly if the car was free it would still be expensive... 

[73rallye440magnum]

I think it sold. I haven't seen any new postings. Hopefully the new owner finds us (or is already among us). 

[Mytur Binsdirti]

I want the trailer hitch. 

You could try to work a package deal for the hitch & shag carpet?.

[XS29LA47V21]

So what is rumor control?

Did it sell?  To anyone here?

[73rallye440magnum]

I haven't seen it show up anywhere.