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Coil relettering project

Started by Just 6T9 CHGR, March 15, 2006, 07:01:07 PM

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Just 6T9 CHGR

March 15, 2006, 07:01:07 PM
Recently purchased an FBO ign setup.  It came with a plain black coil.
I like the look of a "lettered" coil so I weighed my options.....

Option one.....send the coil out to be professionally relettered for about $100 (actually this wouldnt work because the vendors are only licenced to reletter gennie Mopar coils)

Option two....try & reletter it myself on the cheap....

After searching the net for some dry transfer lettering (not an easy task)   I finally found a suitable item from Tower Hobbies

Letters....
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0001P?&I=LXVR69

Numbers....
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0001P?&I=LXVR75


Using my friend's Frank Badalson/Roger Gibson professionally relettered coil as a refrence (note...original coils lettering was green...could not find a green dry transfer so white was the next best thing ;) )

These letter/number kits came in different sizes so I was able to match up the different fonts fairly close.
I was also able to "date code" the coil as well...

"169" stands for the 16th week of 1969.....my car was built 4/30/69 so it falls in the 120 day prior window....plus 169 just looks COOL ;)

I still have to shoot mine with some satin clear to protect the lettering.


First pic is my friends $115 coil.......

The next 3 are my $10 coil :D
Chris' '69 Charger R/T

Chris G.

#1
March 15, 2006, 07:04:54 PM
Dang, that looks really nice. How about spraying the entire page with some light green paint, and then applying? Would that work?

Either way, can I drop mine off when I bring you the cap and have you make me up one?  :yesnod:

Charger4404spd

#2
March 15, 2006, 07:06:05 PM
Looks good Chris.

kab69440

#3
March 15, 2006, 07:08:46 PM
FOR SHAAAAME, Chris!!!! That is not FACTORY CORRECT! How could you do such a thing to a Charger?? It's HERESY!! ;)  Seriously man... It looks great and I'd like to see how many would notice the difference...
Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not;  a sense of humor to console him for what he is.      Francis Bacon

WANT TO BUY:
Looking for a CD by  'The Sub-Mersians'  entitled "Raw Love Songs From My Garage To Your Bedroom"

Also, any of the various surf-revival compilation albums this band has contributed to.
Thank you,    Kenny

Jesus drove a Honda. He wasn't proud of it, though...
John 12: 49     "...for I did not speak of my own Accord."

johntpr

#4
March 15, 2006, 07:09:51 PM
Is that AACA correct?  ;)

Just 6T9 CHGR

#5
March 15, 2006, 07:13:12 PM
Quote from: johntpr on March 15, 2006, 07:09:51 PM
Is that AACA correct?  ;)

:haha:

In the AACA rule book it states as long as the original part #s are on there......its as good as GOLD! ;)

Chris' '69 Charger R/T

Just 6T9 CHGR

#6
March 15, 2006, 07:15:05 PM
Quote from: Burnt70R/T on March 15, 2006, 07:04:54 PM
Dang, that looks really nice. How about spraying the entire page with some light green paint, and then applying? Would that work?

Either way, can I drop mine off when I bring you the cap and have you make me up one? :yesnod:
The dry transfers dont work that way.....you cant spray the outside part of the lettering...only the back side is exposed.  You have to rub the protective sheet over the lettering to transfer it to the surface.

One coil relettering job for a tan cap...... :scratchchin:   DEAL!! :thumbs:
Chris' '69 Charger R/T

4402tuff4u

#7
March 16, 2006, 06:49:03 AM
That looks awesome! nice job!! :yesnod:
"Mother should I trust the government?........... Pink Floyd "Mother"

69chargeryeehaa

#8
March 16, 2006, 11:07:39 AM
I can't believe your at the stage where you spend that much time with the letters on the coil!!!! :icon_smile_tongue:  i think you should get another car to restore!!!!! :o ;D lol, i think the letters look great, good job.  i wish i was at that stage, BTW, thanks, now all i see is my crappy worn off letter coil!!!!

Just 6T9 CHGR

#9
March 16, 2006, 01:17:49 PM
Quote from: 69chargeryeehaa on March 16, 2006, 11:07:39 AM
I can't believe your at the stage where you spend that much time with the letters on the coil!!!! :icon_smile_tongue: i think you should get another car to restore!!!!! :o ;D lol, i think the letters look great, good job. i wish i was at that stage, BTW, thanks, now all i see is my crappy worn off letter coil!!!!

Im at the stage where its fun to do these little things yourself instead of paying someone else 6X the amount to do it for you.
A little research and about 1 hour of my time is all it took.

I am done with rebuying new parts because this year they made a "better repro"

I am more into the function aspect over the form now a days.

Now if I can get rid of my crappy 7mm "correct" spark plug wires and get a nice set of HP 8mm's that "look" correct :scratchchin:  :thumbs:
Chris' '69 Charger R/T

694spdRT

#10
March 16, 2006, 01:39:06 PM
Quote from: Just 6T9_CHGR.... on March 16, 2006, 01:17:49 PM
Im at the stage where its fun to do these little things yourself instead of paying someone else 6X the amount to do it for you.
A little research and about 1 hour of my time is all it took.

Amen to that. I think it is good to think outside the box and solve things like you did.

BTW: The coil looks great Chris :thumbs:
1968 Charger 383 auto
1969 Charger R/T 440 4 speed
1970 Charger 500 440 auto
1972 Challenger 318
1976 W200 Club Cab 4x4 400 auto 
1978 Ramcharger 360 auto
2001 Durango SLT 4.7L (daily driver)
2005 Ram 2500 4x4 Big Horn Cummins Diesel 6 speed
2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 5.7 Hemi

Just 6T9 CHGR

#11
March 16, 2006, 04:06:42 PM
Thanks Ty!

Heres a pic of it installed (don't mind the duct tape on the return spring :-\ )  Just a reference point for my timing when I pulled the dizzy....

Also, below is another bit of "camouflage"
Chris' '69 Charger R/T

Charger4404spd

#12
March 16, 2006, 04:15:00 PM
Chris your pics make me sick everytime I see them :icon_smile_big:
Yeah I know, its just jealousy! :icon_smile_wink:

resq302

#13
March 16, 2006, 08:27:27 PM
Chris, the coil looks great!  Wish I had that much time to fool around with stuff like that!  Side note about correctness.... isnt the battery tray supposed to be semi flat black and not body color? :nana:
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

Troy

#14
March 16, 2006, 08:59:52 PM
Quote from: resq302 on March 16, 2006, 08:27:27 PM
Chris, the coil looks great! Wish I had that much time to fool around with stuff like that! Side note about correctness.... isnt the battery tray supposed to be semi flat black and not body color? :nana:
Nope. I believe the tray was in the car when it was painted - at least that's what I figured out when I was researching mine.

See this too:
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7577.0.html

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

694spdRT

#15
March 16, 2006, 09:32:54 PM
 :iagree:

The battery tray was installed before paint so it is body color.

Chris,

Does the FBO require some type of special coil? I was just curious because you didn't use the later style Mopar coil that you had previously. At least I thought you had one of those before.

Ty 
1968 Charger 383 auto
1969 Charger R/T 440 4 speed
1970 Charger 500 440 auto
1972 Challenger 318
1976 W200 Club Cab 4x4 400 auto 
1978 Ramcharger 360 auto
2001 Durango SLT 4.7L (daily driver)
2005 Ram 2500 4x4 Big Horn Cummins Diesel 6 speed
2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 5.7 Hemi

Just 6T9 CHGR

#16
March 16, 2006, 09:36:38 PM
Quote from: resq302 on March 16, 2006, 08:27:27 PM
isnt the battery tray supposed to be semi flat black and not body color? :nana:

Ooooohh Brian.........major Mopar faux pas (sp?) :nono: :rotz:


If I were you I'd be :leaving:


Chris' '69 Charger R/T

Just 6T9 CHGR

#17
March 16, 2006, 09:43:55 PM
Ty, I think the coil is a higher voltage coil (50k) than the stock 40k one....I think its a Pertronix Flamethrower coil that he put his decal on.  It is matched to his ECU & ballast.  He states the ECU wont work to its fullest potential without the matching coil & ballast.....sales pitch?  We'll see  :drive:

Anyone spot the other "camo"?? ;)
Chris' '69 Charger R/T

694spdRT

#18
March 16, 2006, 10:04:02 PM
Quote from: Just 6T9_CHGR.... on March 16, 2006, 09:43:55 PM
Anyone spot the other "camo"?? ;)

I see you relocated your coil and angled it for a stock look....or is that old news?
1968 Charger 383 auto
1969 Charger R/T 440 4 speed
1970 Charger 500 440 auto
1972 Challenger 318
1976 W200 Club Cab 4x4 400 auto 
1978 Ramcharger 360 auto
2001 Durango SLT 4.7L (daily driver)
2005 Ram 2500 4x4 Big Horn Cummins Diesel 6 speed
2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 5.7 Hemi

Just 6T9 CHGR

#19
March 16, 2006, 10:15:25 PM
Old news...its in the second pic
Chris' '69 Charger R/T

Troy

#20
March 16, 2006, 10:19:29 PM
Quote from: Just 6T9_CHGR.... on March 16, 2006, 09:43:55 PM
Anyone spot the other "camo"?? ;)
It's the oil filter right?

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

694spdRT

#21
March 16, 2006, 10:21:10 PM
Duh, I didn't even notice the 2nd picture.

The oil filter does look much more correct than the resto one I bought as the red and blue bars are thicker and placed differently so Troy should be the winner.
1968 Charger 383 auto
1969 Charger R/T 440 4 speed
1970 Charger 500 440 auto
1972 Challenger 318
1976 W200 Club Cab 4x4 400 auto 
1978 Ramcharger 360 auto
2001 Durango SLT 4.7L (daily driver)
2005 Ram 2500 4x4 Big Horn Cummins Diesel 6 speed
2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 5.7 Hemi

Just 6T9 CHGR

#22
March 16, 2006, 10:50:24 PM
Ding ding ding!!

Yep....took a trusty $4.50 WIX filter and with some rattle can paint and the Mopar logo printed out on paper, cut out & stuck to the filter I now have a $16 "resto" Mopar filter ;)

Ty your right the repro's have thinner stripes........

Heres an NOS one that is thicker

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NOS-MOPAR-OIL-FILTER-L-72-1851658-HEMI-440-426-383-340_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ80737QQitemZ4621544810QQrdZ1
Chris' '69 Charger R/T

resq302

#23
March 17, 2006, 05:47:50 PM
Quote from: Just 6T9_CHGR.... on March 16, 2006, 09:36:38 PM
Quote from: resq302 on March 16, 2006, 08:27:27 PM
isnt the battery tray supposed to be semi flat black and not body color? :nana:

Ooooohh Brian.........major Mopar faux pas (sp?) :nono: :rotz:


If I were you I'd be :leaving:




Oh well.  I guess all of the ones I have really noticed were black.  Looks like one more thing I will have to add to my list.  Figures... I just had the battery out also to clean up the terminals and battery tray. :rotz:
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

Just 6T9 CHGR

#24
March 17, 2006, 06:40:44 PM
Break out the red paint baby! ;)

Go to your auto body supply store & get a rattle can mixed up of your color in enamel....costs about $20...more than enough to do the battery tray and the braces........dont forget the braces!
Chris' '69 Charger R/T

Charger4404spd

#25
March 17, 2006, 07:09:17 PM
Didnt know it was body color either........geez more work!

resq302

#26
March 17, 2006, 08:53:20 PM
Quote from: Charger4404spd on March 17, 2006, 07:09:17 PM
Didnt know it was body color either........geez more work!

Yup.  I know the feeling.  As soon as I get one thing corrected back to stock, I find two more things that aren't correct.  Will it ever end?!?!??!?! :popcrn: :lolexplode:
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

Just 6T9 CHGR

#27
March 18, 2006, 06:48:59 AM
Aint it great?!
Chris' '69 Charger R/T

resq302

#28
March 18, 2006, 06:56:07 AM
Quote from: Just 6T9_CHGR.... on March 18, 2006, 06:48:59 AM
Aint it great?!

Define GREAT......   :haha:
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

Shakey

#29
March 18, 2006, 10:04:55 PM
Quote from: resq302 on March 18, 2006, 06:56:07 AM
Quote from: Just 6T9_CHGR.... on March 18, 2006, 06:48:59 AM
Aint it great?!

Define GREAT......   :haha:

Define DEFINE.....  :scratchchin:   :D

BTW Chris, well done on the coil!  One of those things "I'll get to".   ::)

my69

#30
March 19, 2006, 10:34:40 PM
Another great thread, ;D

Say 6T9  CHGR  (chris)   May I ask what your power steering belt number is?  I couldn't see it in the
  GREAT LOOKING pics :2thumbs:

I just bought one for my "383".  Does 13441 sound familiar?

Just checking
Winston

Just 6T9 CHGR

#31
March 20, 2006, 09:40:43 AM
same # here!  Those are the "Mopar" ink stamped belts.

The new repros are the "branded in" orig part # belts........I REFUSE to pay $28 for a belt :rotz:
Chris' '69 Charger R/T

resq302

#32
March 20, 2006, 03:26:53 PM
Quote from: Just 6T9_CHGR.... on March 20, 2006, 09:40:43 AM
same # here!  Those are the "Mopar" ink stamped belts.

The new repros are the "branded in" orig part # belts........I REFUSE to pay $28 for a belt :rotz:

So which one is correct? The ink stamped ones or are the stamped (branded) belts correct?  I have the branded type.  Knowing my luck, I need the ink stamped ones. ::)
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

8WHEELER

#33
March 21, 2006, 04:13:59 AM
Yes they say the Pertronix Flamethrower coil is matched to there ECU. They states there ECU wont work
to its fullest potential without the matching coil & ballast, We'll see....

Looks great Chris, did you consider using a MSD Blaster-2? I took the decal off of mine and painted the
red coil black, but I sure wish I could screen the lettering and numbers on it as you have, looks great  ;D

Dan
74 Dart Sport 360, just for added fun.

Just 6T9 CHGR

#34
March 21, 2006, 09:52:30 AM
Thanks Dan.....I just used the coil they supplied in the kit.

The lettering wasnt really that hard at all.
Chris' '69 Charger R/T

my69

#35
March 25, 2006, 08:51:34 PM
Quote from: resq302 on March 20, 2006, 03:26:53 PM
Quote from: Just 6T9_CHGR.... on March 20, 2006, 09:40:43 AM
same # here!  Those are the "Mopar" ink stamped belts.

The new repros are the "branded in" orig part # belts........I REFUSE to pay $28 for a belt :rotz:

So which one is correct? The ink stamped ones or are the stamped (branded) belts correct?  I have the branded type.  Knowing my luck, I need the ink stamped ones. ::)

Well how about $20.00w/shipping?  :'(  Still need to find the alt/fan belt yet :yesnod:
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