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need a hemi

Started by sunfire69, May 28, 2014, 11:18:43 AM

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Ghoste

Wow, there's nothing they won't sell there.

cudaken

Brand   Mopar
Item Weight   450 pounds
Product Dimensions   40 x 30 x 30 inches
Item model number   P5249667AE
Manufacturer Part Number   P5249667AE

So when did the cast iron Hemi weight 450 pounds?  :scratchchin:
I am back

Indygenerallee

Says ENGINE BLOCK.... :Twocents:
Sold my Charger unfortunately....never got it finished.

MaximRecoil

Quote from: cudaken on May 28, 2014, 10:03:45 PM
Brand   Mopar
Item Weight   450 pounds
Product Dimensions   40 x 30 x 30 inches
Item model number   P5249667AE
Manufacturer Part Number   P5249667AE

So when did the cast iron Hemi weight 450 pounds?  :scratchchin:

That's lighter than this 527-pound aluminum Hemi. It must come with an anti-gravity device, which would explain its ridiculously high price tag; i.e., only $731.53 less than the starting MSRP of a whole new Dodge Dart, which costs way more to manufacture than a 426 Hemi. Arbitrarily high prices annoy me to no end.

Quote from: Indygenerallee on May 28, 2014, 10:23:10 PM
Says ENGINE BLOCK.... :Twocents:

Product description says:

QuoteTake out your rare numbers-matching original Hemi and replace it with our brand-new 426 Mopar Performance Crate Hemi. Here's classic power to move you! This Hemi crate engine puts 465 horsepower and 486 ft.-lbs. of torque under your right foot. Will ship by freight, additional charges will apply.

Plus the part number in the title (P5249667AE) is for the entire crate engine, not just the block.

ACUDANUT

Could someone here buy this and donate it to me. Please.  :angel:

Aero426

At that price, I would prefer to have an engine built for me by one of the reputable Hemi builders.    I would not trust an MP Hemi based on past reputation.

Daytona R/T SE

Quote from: Aero426 on May 29, 2014, 10:38:07 AM
At that price, I would prefer to have an engine built for me by one of the reputable Hemi builders.    I would not trust an MP Hemi based on past reputation.


Who are the reputable Hemi builders ? :shruggy:

If I could get one built for that price, (roughly $15K) by someone that I know I could trust to do it right...

I'd pull the trigger tomorrow.

Hell...

I'd probably pull the trigger today.  :2guns:

ACUDANUT



Ghoste

FHO is the place to go.

Daytona R/T SE

Quote from: Ghoste on May 30, 2014, 05:43:02 AM
FHO is the place to go.

I recently had a lengthy discussion with Tim at FHO, concerning the possibility of him building an engine for my car.

He took a lot of time out of his day to explain to me every detail of the engine he could build for me.

He's a very knowledgeable and helpful person.

Great guy.

I told him I didn't need a huge race engine, just a "cruiser" type engine.

He explained to me that if you're buying all new parts, that it doesn't cost a lot more to go with the larger displacement, which makes for  better drive ability on the street, and as a bonus...big horsepower.

He also said that there are no iron blocks currently available, and that an alloy block would have to be used.

This would raise the price about $3000.

And, then while you're at it, you may as well go with a roller cam, etc...etc...etc...

The combination he proposed should make somewhere north of 750 HP on pump gas, the car would

handle better because it will weigh about the same as an iron small block...etc...etc...etc...


OK...

Sounds TERRIFIC ! ! !


...How much ?


Oh...

You're looking at about $29,000.

           :faint:

myk

No iron blocks available?  Great-what am I supposed to do when the time comes for engine work and the block's been punched out too far already? 

Homerr

The 450 lbs. could be the shipped weight, i.e. including the weight of the crate it comes in.

1974dodgecharger

Lol, sounds cool and shit until the final answer is given.


Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on May 30, 2014, 06:19:29 AM
Quote from: Ghoste on May 30, 2014, 05:43:02 AM
FHO is the place to go.

I recently had a lengthy discussion with Tim at FHO, concerning the possibility of him building an engine for my car.

He took a lot of time out of his day to explain to me every detail of the engine he could build for me.

He's a very knowledgeable and helpful person.

Great guy.

I told him I didn't need a huge race engine, just a "cruiser" type engine.

He explained to me that if you're buying all new parts, that it doesn't cost a lot more to go with the larger displacement, which makes for  better drive ability on the street, and as a bonus...big horsepower.

He also said that there are no iron blocks currently available, and that an alloy block would have to be used.

This would raise the price about $3000.

And, then while you're at it, you may as well go with a roller cam, etc...etc...etc...

The combination he proposed should make somewhere north of 750 HP on pump gas, the car would

handle better because it will weigh about the same as an iron small block...etc...etc...etc...


OK...

Sounds TERRIFIC ! ! !


...How much ?


Oh...

You're looking at about $29,000.

           :faint:

Tilar

Quote from: myk on May 30, 2014, 08:05:07 AM
No iron blocks available?  Great-what am I supposed to do when the time comes for engine work and the block's been punched out too far already? 

Sleeve it and go back to standard.
Dave  

God must love stupid people; He made so many.



MaximRecoil

Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on May 30, 2014, 06:19:29 AM

He also said that there are no iron blocks currently available, and that an alloy block would have to be used.

It says here:

QuoteThe Cast Iron Mopar Hemi Block is available now from BMP

It shows 4 versions of it (different bore sizes, with or without lifter holes, rough or finished bore), all with a "Buy Now" button that works.

Daytona R/T SE

Quote from: MaximRecoil on June 01, 2014, 06:59:19 AM
Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on May 30, 2014, 06:19:29 AM

He also said that there are no iron blocks currently available, and that an alloy block would have to be used.

It says here:

QuoteThe Cast Iron Mopar Hemi Block is available now from BMP

It shows 4 versions of it (different bore sizes, with or without lifter holes, rough or finished bore), all with a "Buy Now" button that works.

Well... It's been about three weeks since my conversation with F H O.

I suppose they could be available again.

That would drop the price to $26,000. ::)

Of course, there are a lot of things on websites that say they are available

And when you actually try to buy them...

No dice.

Either way,

By the time you get the K member, mounts, hemi brake booster,etc.

It's well above $30,000.

For that money,

I think I'll build a nice 440...

And another garage.

MaximRecoil

Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on June 01, 2014, 07:34:41 AM

Of course, there are a lot of things on websites that say they are available

And when you actually try to buy them...

No dice.

Yeah, I know all about that. And if I was already spending nice-new-car kind of money (or nice-classic-car kind of money, for that matter) on just an engine, I guess I'd pay the extra $3,000 and get the much lighter aluminum block. It would be nice to have a nearly 800 HP Hemi that only weighs as much as a stock iron small block.

Daytona R/T SE

Quote from: MaximRecoil on June 01, 2014, 08:56:30 AM
Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on June 01, 2014, 07:34:41 AM

Of course, there are a lot of things on websites that say they are available

And when you actually try to buy them...

No dice.

Yeah, I know all about that. And if I was already spending nice-new-car kind of money (or nice-classic-car kind of money, for that matter) on just an engine, I guess I'd pay the extra $3,000 and get the much lighter aluminum block. It would be nice to have a nearly 800 HP Hemi that only weighs as much as a stock iron small block.


It's not the $3000 that kills it for me.

It's the "well you may as well while you're at it " costs.

I only want a 500 hp max engine.

Even that is overkill for me.

If I could have the engine built for around $15K I'd do it.

With the carbs and other parts I'd need I would be in under $20K total.

That would be painful, but doable.

There's a lot of junk out there in my price range.

(MP, INDY, etc.)

But I haven't seen anybody praising these engines except the guys selling them.


MaximRecoil

Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on June 01, 2014, 09:36:12 AM

It's not the $3000 that kills it for me.

It's the "well you may as well while you're at it " costs.

I only want a 500 hp max engine.

Even that is overkill for me.

If I could have the engine built for around $15K I'd do it.

With the carbs and other parts I'd need I would be in under $20K total.

That would be painful, but doable.

There's a lot of junk out there in my price range.

(MP, INDY, etc.)

But I haven't seen anybody praising these engines except the guys selling them.

500 HP is pretty easy and relatively cheap to do with a 440. You can get about 400 HP out of a stock 440 Magnum with just a carburetor swap and adding headers. Is your car an original Hemi car, or is there some other reason you specifically want a Hemi?

Daytona R/T SE

Quote from: MaximRecoil on June 01, 2014, 09:45:57 AM
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500 HP is pretty easy and relatively cheap to do with a 440.
[/quote]

WOW !

No kidding ? :o

I thought the topic was Hemi. :shruggy:


Charger-Bodie

The one I just installed was less than 13k to my door 472 mopar perf. Built by Stanton racing. Still had to add carb( I left this on a 4 bbl) an air cleaner and exhaust. A friend and I did some research and found that the Stanton builds are top notch for the parts allowed by mopar. Runs pretty sweet too.  I'm pretty sure that's part number from the frost post is what mine was.... Going to check now.


Edit that number is for a 426. For what it's worth I'm told those are good engines now to due too much better builders. I prices one of those 426 mp crate frame our local dealer and I can get one for 14.5 k
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

MaximRecoil

Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on June 01, 2014, 09:55:18 AM
WOW !

No kidding ? :o

You should save your amateur efforts toward sarcasm for someone who thinks it's even in the ballpark of "clever", you know, like primary school special ed. students for example.

QuoteI thought the topic was Hemi. :shruggy:

It is. What of it?

Now, I said:

"Is your car an original Hemi car, or is there some other reason you specifically want a Hemi?"

Your reply = ?

Daytona R/T SE

-Edited so as not to lower myself to your level.-



Please continue to babble on endlessly,

Without ever contributing anything constructive to the actual topic.


It amuses me.  :smilielol: