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Rare 71 Cuda Convertible to hit auction block....4 million dollar car!

Started by DadsCharger00, May 28, 2014, 11:09:38 AM

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Cooter

Problem isn't necessarily the dumbass sitting on Pappas Cudas, it's the 'traders/flippers' paying insane amounts for the 318 cars hoping to stuff hemis in em and find a rich douche. What was once a nice 318 project, is still a 318 car, but is now gonna cost $30-50k because of BJ showing 'highlights' of the stupid rich.
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

Cooter

Quote from: ACUDANUT on May 29, 2014, 11:22:59 AM
Cooter, you have one opinion and your always right. The only one saying dumb shit around here is you.  I am proud that one of our products ('Cuda) can make such high publicity and demand a premium buck.  What's wrong with that. ?
Peace out.

You really are special. Where the hell did you get that I'm always right by opinion?
Tell you what kid, keep to your side, I'll keep to mine hater.
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

ACUDANUT

Wow, I'm a kid again.  :boogie:

Cooter, on a more serious side. What e-body do ya got ? I'd love to see some pic's.  :cheers:

Ghoste


Nacho-RT74

is this the same Cuda tried to be sold on ebay in 1 million dollars maybe 5 years ago ? ( but estimated to get 1.3 millions for it )
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Nacho-RT74

no, wrong... the one I meant it was a 70 also ragtop and also Blue on Blue... claimed to be the first Hemi Cuda coming out from the line. Last owner known being the same than the last Hemi Cuda out of the line (71 white ragtop too ), claiming to worth 5 millions
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

MaximRecoil

I hate convertibles. The roofline/C-pillar is a major cosmetic design point on a car, and to hack it off in favor of a crinkled piece of cloth makes the car look like crap. The roof skin / pillars / inner structure are also a major structural part of the car, so when you hack it off, the chassis has more flex (this is especially true for convertibles made 40+ years ago). Reinforcements such as torque boxes help, but they don't make up for the lack of an integrated steel roof.

Also, I'm not a fan of E-bodies. They look like a generic knockoff of a first-generation Camaro/Firebird, neither of which are very good-looking cars to begin with (I think a '69 or '70 Mustang fastback looks way better than a first-generation Camaro/Firebird or a Chrysler E-body). I've never understood why so many people go nuts over E-bodies.

If the concept of resale value didn't exist, I'd walk right past this pristine '71 Hemi 'Cuda convertible and take a beat-up '69 Charger with a 383 any day. The uninspired E-body bodystyle isn't even in the same league, or the same planet for that matter, as the second-generation Charger.

However, since the concept of resale value does exist, I'd take the '71 Hemi 'Cuda convertible, sell it to someone who inexplicably thinks it is worth $4,000,000, and I'd then buy a bunch of cars that I really want, along with a big, fully-equipped garage.


tan top

Quote from: JamieZ on May 28, 2014, 07:19:35 PM
Quote from: Baldwinvette77 on May 28, 2014, 03:36:02 PM
i mean 72 and newer cars aren't really desirable, but they look good enough, and i cant imagine it being extremely hard to back-date them to a 70 or 71 style  :shruggy:

Hey! I still love my 74 with it's crazy paint:



In today's market, originality carries a premium and after 71 all the big engine options were gone and so were the convertibles. 70 and 71's are both 1 year models (although they made more of them than 72-74) and they had better options in terms of colors, interiors, wings, stripes, etc.  People also like to clone them into T/A or AAR's and that's a lot easier if you start with a 70. It's really not so different as a 2nd gen charger bringing more money than a 3rd (in most cases).  

72+ bring decent money if they have gone the pro-touring / modernization route (discs, fuel injection, engine upgrades, updated interiors, etc). A Hemi always ups the price.

Doing a good conversion back to a 70/71 requires dealing with different marker lights, headlights, tail lights, grilles, dashboard, etc.  It all depends on how complete of a clone you want to make :)  Turning a 72+ into a vert is actually a lot of work and you'd be way under water.




 :coolgleamA: 74 , I  would of liked to of bought  a 74 E-body  & do a stock type rebuild on it !! for the sheer fact that it was the last year of production & they stopped half way through the model year if I remember correctly ( also they use to be the only E-bodies & 73s  may be 2s that could be had for sensible money  :lol:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

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Cooter

Converts are also known by their other name. "Bathtub", as all they do is hold water when it rains.
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

Ghoste

Quote from: ACUDANUT on May 29, 2014, 07:15:42 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on May 29, 2014, 01:45:02 PM
There are a bunch of pics of it on here.

Ya got a linky ?

There's a whole thread about the car on here somewhere that gets updated from time to time.  Getting off topic a bit but do you have pics of your car on here?

69CoronetRT

Quote from: Chad L. Magee on May 28, 2014, 09:38:18 PM
Speaking about these cars brings back a memory.  About 15 years ago, I got to sit in one of the 1970 versions.  It was at a car show in western Iowa and the owner was from nearby Omaha, Nebraska. ... The original paint flaked off in 1975-6, so the second owner had the custom candy paint job put on by the House of Color in Chicago ($3-4000 back then).

Chad, that car was originally sold by a dealer in the Omaha area. I knew where the car was in the 70's as the car was freshly painted by Joe Bryant out of Plattsmouth NE. Joe is mentioned in the MCG article. I knew Joe in the late 70's as he was helping a friend with a car.
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Chad L. Magee

Quote from: 69CoronetRT on May 30, 2014, 08:34:39 AM
Quote from: Chad L. Magee on May 28, 2014, 09:38:18 PM
Speaking about these cars brings back a memory.  About 15 years ago, I got to sit in one of the 1970 versions.  It was at a car show in western Iowa and the owner was from nearby Omaha, Nebraska. ... The original paint flaked off in 1975-6, so the second owner had the custom candy paint job put on by the House of Color in Chicago ($3-4000 back then).

Chad, that car was originally sold by a dealer in the Omaha area. I knew where the car was in the 70's as the car was freshly painted by Joe Bryant out of Plattsmouth NE. Joe is mentioned in the MCG article. I knew Joe in the late 70's as he was helping a friend with a car.

I forgot that the car was detailed once in MCG years ago (and I would have it buried in my car magazine stash).  On the paint job, I was going from the information that the second owner had told me at the Iowa car show 15 years ago which may be a bit foggy with time.  He probably bought the candy paints for it from House of Color in Chicago (which he mentioned to me) and had it painted by Joe.  That would make sense, so I am wrong on who actually painted the car. :icon_smile_blackeye:  Regardless, it is a shame that the car is now back to stock exterior paint :'(, rather than the custom paint that it had worn for so long a time.  At least someone videoed the car before it was returned back to stock so we can still enjoy it as it was.... 
Ph.D. Metallocene Chemist......

ACUDANUT

Quote from: Ghoste on May 30, 2014, 05:28:35 AM
Quote from: ACUDANUT on May 29, 2014, 07:15:42 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on May 29, 2014, 01:45:02 PM
There are a bunch of pics of it on here.

Ya got a linky ?

There's a whole thread about the car on here somewhere that gets updated from time to time.  Getting off topic a bit but do you have pics of your car on here?

Yes, they are in the "show us your 3rd Gen"

Ghoste

Took a while but I found them.  I asked you about a pic before but you didn't indicate they were on here somewhere, they're nice cars you should post them more often.

ACUDANUT


Tilar

It will surprise the hell out of me if it hits a million.

:popcrn:  :popcrn:
Dave  

God must love stupid people; He made so many.



surmanajaja

Quote from: Tilar on June 01, 2014, 09:52:39 AM
It will surprise the hell out of me if it hits a million.

:popcrn:  :popcrn:

it would surprise me if it didnt. I guess it will go to 1.5 - 2.0 range but not be sold. these cars arent really for sale that often and this is one of the best there is...so ppl with too much money and too little sense should be gunning for it.

boss429kiwi

Let's not forget that this is not just one of 11 71 HEMI Cuda convertibles made, but it's only one of 3 4 speeds.

This will go for silly money $2m to $3m, and IMO worth every cent.
NEW ZEALAND (aka Paradise)
1973 De Tomaso Pantera GTS widebody
1970 Superbird, 6pack, 4 speed, Tor-Red, Buckets, restored by Julius
1970 428 Cobra Jet, 4 speed, calypso Coral, white shaker
1970 Boss 429 KK2457, Concours, Calypso Coral (SOLD)
1957 Chevy truck, big rear window, ocean green, STOCK!.....nice!

surmanajaja

Quote from: surmanajaja on June 01, 2014, 12:21:03 PM
Quote from: Tilar on June 01, 2014, 09:52:39 AM
It will surprise the hell out of me if it hits a million.

:popcrn:  :popcrn:

it would surprise me if it didnt. I guess it will go to 1.5 - 2.0 range but not be sold. these cars arent really for sale that often and this is one of the best there is...so ppl with too much money and too little sense should be gunning for it.

Tilar should be VERY surprised...went for more than I thought...right cars still have no roof on price.

Ghoste


Mopar Nut

"Dear God, my prayer for 2024 is a fat bank account and a thin body. Please don't mix these up like you did the last ten years."

boss429kiwi

NEW ZEALAND (aka Paradise)
1973 De Tomaso Pantera GTS widebody
1970 Superbird, 6pack, 4 speed, Tor-Red, Buckets, restored by Julius
1970 428 Cobra Jet, 4 speed, calypso Coral, white shaker
1970 Boss 429 KK2457, Concours, Calypso Coral (SOLD)
1957 Chevy truck, big rear window, ocean green, STOCK!.....nice!

Ghoste


Aero426