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Conversation I had with a kid on another forum

Started by MaximRecoil, May 23, 2014, 09:29:48 PM

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MaximRecoil

Quoteby MaximRecoil

I have to tear apart my dash today to install this little gizmo:

http://rt-eng.com/rte/index.php/RTE_limiter

Quoteby Koolguy456789

You're installing a rev limiter? why don't you just hire a driver to chauffeur you around since you obviously don't know when to shift.

Quoteby MaximRecoil

No, I'm not installing a "rev limiter", and I have no idea where you got the notion that I am (I certainly didn't say anything about installing a "rev limiter").

Quoteby Koolguy456789

it's a rev limiter

Quoteby MaximRecoil

No, it is not a "rev limiter", it is a voltage limiter. The fuel, temperature, and oil pressure gauges run on 5 volts DC, while a car's electrical system outputs ~12.6 - ~14.4 VDC. That little gizmo limits the voltage to those gauges to 5 VDC so you don't fry them.

The original voltage limiter that came with the car from the factory was a points-type electromechanical device, and when they go bad, the points can get stuck in the closed position, allowing the full ~12.6 - ~14.4 VDC to pass through to the gauges, which will fry them in short order (i.e., burn through the nichrome wires in the gauges, rendering them dead as a doornail). The version that RTE sells is a modern, redesigned, solid-state electronic device, and has built-in protection so that it shuts down if something goes wrong, preventing damage to the gauges. See this comparison chart:

http://rt-eng.com/rte/images/1/15/LimiterCompare.png

Quoteby Koolguy456789

You photoshopped the word "linear". Next time try not to make it so obvious when you're wrong

Quoteby MaximRecoil

I didn't Photoshop anything; that image is on RTE's (Real Time Engineering's) website; you know, RTE being the company which sells the voltage limiter. You think I own that site, do you, or do you think I hacked into their site to upload a Photoshopped image to it?

A couple more things:

1. If I had "Photoshopped" it, you wouldn't know unless I told you.

2. The fact that you think that the word "linear" being "Photoshopped" into that image even matters, proves that this entire topic is well over your head.

RTE doesn't sell "rev limiters", nor would a "rev limiter" install in the instrument cluster. The RTE limiter is a voltage limiter which is a drop-in replacement for the stock factory voltage limiter, and it performs the same function of limiting the voltage going to the gauges to 5 VDC.

Quoteby Koolguy456789

Now you're back tracking because you want to cut volts from your electricals like a fool. Have fun having the Speedometer konk out when you put the radio on  ::) ughhh, your ignorance is so annoying, and you got these groupies like grabbit who actually think you know what you're talking about.

Quoteby MaximRecoil

I haven't "back tracked" about anything. And you have to cut volts to the three gauges I mentioned, or you will fry them. That's why Dodge put a voltage limiter in there in the first place.

QuoteHave fun having the Speedometer konk out when you put the radio on

The speedometer doesn't run on electricity, it is driven by a sheathed, rotating cable (called a "speedometer cable") which is connected to the speedometer gear in the transmission.

Quoteughhh, your ignorance is so annoying, and you got these groupies like grabbit who actually think you know what you're talking about.

Irony.

In a previous conversation I had with this kid, someone had asked a question about their serpentine belt, and he told them that modern cars don't have those. I asked him, "What do you think drives the e.g., alternator in a modern car?" He said, "The timing belt".

hawkeye

"Never teach a pig to sing, it wastes your time and annoys the pig."

MaximRecoil

Quote from: hawkeye on May 24, 2014, 06:42:41 AM
"Never teach a pig to sing, it wastes your time and annoys the pig."

Yes, but in the case of a public forum, people other than the person you are posting to can learn something.

charger Downunder

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MaximRecoil

It isn't a car forum, it is a general topic forum, and sometimes car topics come up. There are a few people there that know what they are talking about, but then there is this "Koolguy" kid that likes to chime in on car topics, who comes up with some of the most bizarre nonsense I've seen since Yahoo's "Car Chat:1" chatroom was flooded with kids in the early 2000s after the original "The Fast and the Furious" movie came out.

Cooter

If your gonna attempt to teach, you gotta have more patience. I've posted replies to people's answers only to have one of their little 'clique' buddies post the exact damn thing five posts down and they seem to treat him/her as some kinda f**king Socrates. Like they never saw anybody's response till theirs. It's just human nature to hate on over bearing, self righteous,  know-it-all's, who wanna take over as if they are some kinda God's gift..

I remember your couple of stints here. You ask a question, then wanted to argue against any and all possible answers. Like it really matters whether half a rim was chromed or not. Chroming aluminum is dummer than dog sh*t anyways as the first hint of someone removing the tires will crack it and corrode.
but far be it from me to attempt to tell the all knowing guru of wheels anything. This kid is the same way.
you attempting to show him your pecker is  longer on a public form by hiding behind that age old facade of "people can learn and truth needs to be correct" bulls*it only tells me you couldn't see the troll for looking under the bridge. Only reason I'm responding here is people can learn......
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

XH29N0G

Are you sure he isn't just making stuff up to get people going?
Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

MaximRecoil

Quote from: XH29N0G on May 24, 2014, 11:48:52 AM
Are you sure he isn't just making stuff up to get people going?

No, I'm not sure. He may be a "troll" who is just putting on a persona, though it is my opinion, from seeing many of his posts, that he is for real. For example, from the conversation I posted:

Quoteughhh, your ignorance is so annoying, and you got these groupies like grabbit who actually think you know what you're talking about.

"Trolls" don't tend to indicate that they are frustrated/annoyed, because they aren't frustrated/annoyed; they are doing the whole thing for kicks. Plus, other than the topic of cars, he's a more or less ordinary poster.

MaximRecoil

Quote from: Cooter on May 24, 2014, 11:24:14 AM
If your gonna attempt to teach, you gotta have more patience.

I wasn't attempting to teach him anything. It was my thread, and I wanted correct information on it.

QuoteI remember your couple of stints here. You ask a question, then wanted to argue against any and all possible answers.
I argue against incorrect answers. For example, in this thread, there are no incorrect answers, so there is no argument.

XH29N0G

Makes sense about trolls not expressing frustration. 

He is so out there, but so confident.  Thanks for posting.  It was a fun read. 
Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

Cooter

Quote from: MaximRecoil on May 24, 2014, 12:43:18 PM
Quote from: Cooter on May 24, 2014, 11:24:14 AM
If your gonna attempt to teach, you gotta have more patience.

I wasn't attempting to teach him anything. It was my thread, and I wanted correct information on it.

QuoteI remember your couple of stints here. You ask a question, then wanted to argue against any and all possible answers.
I argue against incorrect answers. For example, in this thread, there are no incorrect answers, so there is no argument.
irony.
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

MaximRecoil

Quote from: Cooter on May 25, 2014, 05:06:25 PM
irony.

Not even remotely. You might as well have just posted any random word, such as "discombooberator", because it would be just as applicable as the word "irony" in this context.

Cooter

The fact you didn't understand the meaning is proof your quite 'discombooberated'.
Btw:  ;)
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

MaximRecoil

Quote from: Cooter on May 31, 2014, 08:56:51 AM
The fact you didn't understand the meaning is proof your quite 'discombooberated'.
Btw:  ;)

Ironically, this post of yours is an example of irony, considering you are the one who established you didn't understand the meaning of the word "irony" when you claimed that something which wasn't remotely ironic, was an example of irony.

Cooter

" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"