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Are 68-70 Dodge Charger Prices Coming Back Up?

Started by 69RT3X9, May 13, 2014, 01:39:32 PM

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crj1968

Quote from: Dino on May 15, 2014, 11:42:20 AM
Quote from: Cooter on May 15, 2014, 11:39:28 AM
One man's junk is anothers dream car.

Absolutely true Cooter, but is the demand for these run of the mill cars really that high to justify 6 figures for an old Fairlane or something?  It just seems out of proportion to me.   :shruggy:

Fairlanes are cool. 64's bring some crazy money.

A lot of "run of the mill" cars are even harder to find, because they were just disposable like old Pintos, Mavericks, Vegas etc... but they were also a lot of peoples first car, so trying to get back that piece of your youth can cost more than you'd imagine.






Ghoste

Yes.  Some of us like old cars and some of us are trying to recapture the past and some a little of both.

crj1968

absolutely. This is my first car a 71 comet. An old HS friend just dug up some pics. I'd love to have that car back.   :icon_smile_big:

Cooter

Lol. I gotta tubbed out 1970 Maverick. You wouldn't believe the prices for 1970-72 Comet/Maverick parts, let alone rust free cars.
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

Mike DC

 
The muscle era is a unique situation.  30+ years of car lovers are all competing with each other for the same 5-6 years of cars.

Stevearino

Quote from: Red 70 R/T 493 on May 14, 2014, 11:44:27 PM
Quote from: Cooter on May 14, 2014, 05:20:27 AM
With AMD, I can see 2nd gen Chargers built off Coronet/satellite platforms.

I thought of this a while ago and just assumed that 69 Coronets would be everywhere for the easy picking. Not so much. I get more hits when searching for gen 2 Chargers than 68 69 Coronets. Forget 70 Coronets.

Baldwinvette77

Quote from: Stevearino on May 15, 2014, 04:07:40 PM
Quote from: Red 70 R/T 493 on May 14, 2014, 11:44:27 PM
Quote from: Cooter on May 14, 2014, 05:20:27 AM
With AMD, I can see 2nd gen Chargers built off Coronet/satellite platforms.

I thought of this a while ago and just assumed that 69 Coronets would be everywhere for the easy picking. Not so much. I get more hits when searching for gen 2 Chargers than 68 69 Coronets. Forget 70 Coronets.

Same here,  only ever saw 2 possible victims, a 70 coronet, and 68 satellite, but after looking at them i didn't want to murder either of them to build a charger, they're cool in their own right  :coolgleamA:

odcics2

Quote from: Dino on May 13, 2014, 08:07:11 PM
Agreed.  The overinflated prices of 05-07 make it seem prices were down afterwards, but they were merely back to their norm.  The value of these goes up a bit every year really.  Remember you would find a few dozen 2nd gens on ebay at any given time?  Those days seem to be over.  We are also seeing more protouring cars that demand a much higher figure and many prospective buyers simply can't afford those, so they offer more for a basket case car because it's all they can find within their budget.

I'm actually curious to see what the prices will be like when the boomers start selling them off.  That could go either way.

Even a sinking ship rises when the tide comes in...   :Twocents:
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

Mike DC

   
I can't see how the boomers selling their cars could possibly do anything but send prices down.  

Supply & demand.   More cars entering the market at the same time = lower prices.




IMO prices can probably never regain their peak in the mid-2000s.  That was a combination of factors.  The popularity of these cars was peaking (many generations of guys wanted them, including the super-wealthy boomers) + the artificially inflated economy was putting extra cash in everyone's pocket.    

I'm sure the dollar numbers will eventually match those days again.  But that will happen because of inflation rather than real values IMO.



six-tee-nine

people are greedy also these days.

20 years ago before the internet boom people came ringing at your door and told you "hey, my dad passed away and has an old car in his shed and I know you're into old cars, so maybe you're interested so we can get rid of it easily"

nowdays when dad passes away they google around and put his car online for as much as they can get for it.

Imo barn finds are getting harder to find every day now
Greetings from Belgium, the beer country

NOS is nice, turbo's are neat, but when it comes to Mopars, there's no need to cheat...


Charger-Bodie

Quote from: six-tee-nine on May 16, 2014, 01:10:48 AM
people are greedy also these days.

20 years ago before the internet boom people came ringing at your door and told you "hey, my dad passed away and has an old car in his shed and I know you're into old cars, so maybe you're interested so we can get rid of it easily"

nowdays when dad passes away they google around and put his car online for as much as they can get for it.

Imo barn finds are getting harder to find every day now

I agree. Too many people look at it as a way to keep their money together. It's a hobby and people need to do it for the the love of the car. I mean don't get me wrong it's nice to know that if yor family gets into trouble you can sell it and get good money back,but that should be a side bonus not the primary focus. Stinking Barrett Jackson has everyone focused on monetary value instead of the time machine value.
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

Ghoste

Agreed, everyone who would still be into this if you knew that upon selling you were nearly guaranteed to lose money on the car, raise your hand. :wave: :punkrocka:   
This is a great hobby and if I factored in the real monetary expenses (house with garage, tools, fuel, maintaining the Charger etc.) I could never get the money back anyway.  No amount of money could buy all the great times I've had in old cars and how do you price the people you've met and freinds you've made?

six-tee-nine

It's a hobby and hobbys cost money, when they start to bring money its called a profession.

OK I made money in the past on an occasion from selling a part or garage cleanups but I have put waaaay more into my car hobby than I ever sold most of it for.

And by the time the Charger will be going on the road again It will bring a nice dime if I decide to sell it again but never as much as I have dumped in it by then....
Greetings from Belgium, the beer country

NOS is nice, turbo's are neat, but when it comes to Mopars, there's no need to cheat...


Cooter

Funny, been saying this for years. Hand proudly raised.

I was Mopar before they could pay off your houses. I was Mopar when you got laughed out of the local cruise spot for driving that "Goat"(ram's head joke)...

I was Mopar when the old saying was true bout prices being higher solely because nobody was messing with the 'uncool' cars.

I was Mopar before, during, and will be long after the flippers have raped the hobby for everything they can get.

True Mopar guys are as rare as true 'barn finds'.

I said it way back in 1987, and I still say it today. Daytona/Superbirds are ugly and they are like reality shows.
the only reason huge, goofy, wings and stupid futuristic noses on Chargers and Roadrunners are so sought after is because of their fame and fortune.
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

Charger-Bodie

Quote from: Cooter on May 16, 2014, 06:52:02 AM
Funny, been saying this for years. Hand proudly raised.

I was Mopar before they could pay off your houses. I was Mopar when you got laughed out of the local cruise spot for driving that "Goat"(ram's head joke)...

I was Mopar when the old saying was true bout prices being higher solely because nobody was messing with the 'uncool' cars.

I was Mopar before, during, and will be long after the flippers have raped the hobby for everything they can get.

True Mopar guys are as rare as true 'barn finds'.

I said it way back in 1987, and I still say it today. Daytona/Superbirds are ugly and they are like reality shows.
the only reason huge, goofy, wings and stupid futuristic noses on Chargers and Roadrunners are so sought after is because of their fame and fortune.

I know the feeling. I got my first Charger in 1986 when I was a freshman in HS , and everyone else was driving thunderbirds and cutlasses........ Got a lot of crap for being the odd one out. I kinda wish it was still the same way.
Main downside would be the availablity of repop parts. They  came when money could be made on them,and would not have otherwise.
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

6spd68

Quote from: Cooter on May 16, 2014, 06:52:02 AM

I said it way back in 1987, and I still say it today. Daytona/Superbirds are ugly and they are like reality shows.
the only reason huge, goofy, wings and stupid futuristic noses on Chargers and Roadrunners are so sought after is because of their fame and fortune.
:cheers:

I've said it to many people before, even if my Charger was worth nothing, I'd still want it...
Every great legend has it's humble beginning.
Project 668:
1968 Dodge Charger (318 Car)
Projected Driveline:
383 with mild stroke
Carb intake w/Holley 750 VS

6-Speed Dodge Viper Transmission

Fully rebuilt Dana-60 w/Motive gears. 3.55 Posi, Yukon axles.

Finished in triple black. 

ETA: "Some velvet morning, when I'm straight..."

PrisonHack

 I didn't know they ever dropped LOL, I have been  :drool5: over them for years and each time I think I'm close they seem to climb outside my range  :shruggy:. I do remember back in '05 when the DOH movie came out there was a ton of them on Ebay all of the time.

Baldwinvette77

Quote from: 6spd68 on May 16, 2014, 09:53:01 AM
Quote from: Cooter on May 16, 2014, 06:52:02 AM

I said it way back in 1987, and I still say it today. Daytona/Superbirds are ugly and they are like reality shows.
the only reason huge, goofy, wings and stupid futuristic noses on Chargers and Roadrunners are so sought after is because of their fame and fortune.
:cheers:

I've said it to many people before, even if my Charger was worth nothing, I'd still want it...

My charger IS worth nothing, And i want the hell outta it  :lol:

Challenger340

IMO, like it or not... Chargers are just assets in the marketplace like everything else these days, and ANY asset as such, will attract speculators in that same marketplace.... you guessed it... to make a BUCK !
Assets go UP... and assets can go DOWN
It is up to the individual to assess "wants vrs needs" in life, and therein financially compete for, and prioritize assets according to their own situation.

Not specifically to Chargers.... but it seems ANYTHING of VALUE in the marketplace these days is rising !
two reasons;
1.) Pressure of Money at "0" interest rates chasing assets.... ANY asset, if for no other reason than to stay relative in real terms to Inflation, that inevitably will come.
2.) Government printing presses running overtime de-basing the current currency, the "future" assets will be SOLD in.

Look at the stock market ? DOW index at 16,700 ???
Who in the fawk here believes THAT is relative in a current economic fundamental ??? ... just "asset" chasing, ANY asset... pure & simple !
Only wimps wear Bowties !

Daytona R/T SE

Are the '69-'70 Charger prices going back up again ?


I certainly hope so. :yesnod:

I could cash them all in and finally move to that tar paper shack in Montana that I've been dreaming of. :coolgleamA:

And...

I ain't tellin the Ol' Lady where I'm goin'. ;)

six-tee-nine

maybe its a different thing in the US but over here in Europe we see a newer thing also lately.

Money in a bank account brings nothing extra these days, stock markets aren't what they used to be anymore.
Alot of rich guys "invest" in old cars instead of shares.

Anything that keeps its value like real AC cobras, old Ferraris, Mercedes' SL, you name it is going for huge money these days.

You get it, to hold the value they all spend there time in a nice climate coltrolled glass house....
Greetings from Belgium, the beer country

NOS is nice, turbo's are neat, but when it comes to Mopars, there's no need to cheat...


Ghoste

Yes, like garage art.  If that 500 that just sold at Mecum is an indicator, prices are coming way up.

indreams84

Quote from: six-tee-nine on May 19, 2014, 01:34:02 AM
maybe its a different thing in the US but over here in Europe we see a newer thing also lately.

Money in a bank account brings nothing extra these days, stock markets aren't what they used to be anymore.
Alot of rich guys "invest" in old cars instead of shares.

Anything that keeps its value like real AC cobras, old Ferraris, Mercedes' SL, you name it is going for huge money these days.

You get it, to hold the value they all spend there time in a nice climate coltrolled glass house....

I agree with the sentiment regarding speculators placing their money into musclecars as assets, I was looking at (http://www.rkmotorscharlotte.com/sales/inventory/active#!/).....portion of text in an ad for a 70' Cuda 440 6: "they continue to be some of the best 4-wheeled investments on the market. Equity aside"....guys look at these things like they are freaking blue chips.
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