All original 1970 Charger R/T, SE and local to me, worth $45k?

[Ghoste]

There likely are more repro parts for 68 and 69 but you would find a great parts network on the 70 Charger Registry site so don't pass it just on that.  Grille parts for all three are non existent.

[crj1968]

Restored or original, I'm willing to bet that a very good car that isn't anything special (Hemi, 6bbl, etc) is going to land in the $40-50K price range...

Agree...that's what I see too. (more for restored cars actually)

70 parts are tougher , no one making fenders for them, and no one giving them away either,   

[crj1968]

And Rallye wheels were available on the 70 models.

Learn something new every day- always thought it was an A/E body thing, but makes sense now that I think about it.

[6spd68]

What do the pro's think about this Black one I just came across?

Anyone familiar with it?

Real deal R/T, "J" code, #'s match 426 hemi, orig. dual four's, 4speed, dana 60, 4:10 power lock, ps, pdb, no rust ever.
Driver quality car, runs and drives awesome.
asking $62,900 or best offer !

*EDIT*
Just noticed the listing is over a month old. Probably not worth even thinking about.
Hate when listings stay up so long.

If you've got the cash for it, that's one nice Hemi car...  I'm honestly surprised you haven't considered buying a lesser car and building it to something extremely fun?  <= could likely be done for 10-15K less then that 70R/T

[maxwellwedge]

Does that "original" 70 look like it should have A/C?

[maxwellwedge]

What do the pro's think about this Black one I just came across?

Anyone familiar with it?

Real deal R/T, "J" code, #'s match 426 hemi, orig. dual four's, 4speed, dana 60, 4:10 power lock, ps, pdb, no rust ever.
Driver quality car, runs and drives awesome.
asking $62,900 or best offer !

*EDIT*
Just noticed the listing is over a month old. Probably not worth even thinking about.
Hate when listings stay up so long.

Does it have paperwork? I see the wrong p/steering pump for starters.

[indreams84]

Yes, speaking of which, are they actually torn is that the way the light is playing off of wrinkles in the leather insert?

I have not seen it in person yet, but was told that the owner wanted to keep it totally OG (including interior) so he never did any seat work. The drivers seat has creases, but they are not tears.

I am not totally opposed to the 70.  The only reason I like the 69 better is the split in the grill.  Other than that, to me they are equal elsewhere.  Another note worth mentioning, I have a friend who picked up a base model 70 Charger with no rust.  However, it needs A LOT of work (including grill etc).  He says that he is having a VERY hard time finding part for the 70, but the 68 and 69 has many more reproduction parts available.  He claims that no one makes grill parts for his 70.

If I get the a 70, am I going to have a harder time sourcing parts?  Is it true the 68 and 69 reproduction parts availability is more plentiful?

If I get back from Vegas this weekend and that 70 is still available, think I'll go take a look at it.  Bring $40k cash and see what happens.  But as someone mention, I will be a little bummed when I see the right 69 pop up.  This car is just the way I want to find a 69 too.  

Hey man, just wait for what you truly want.....I had bid and won on a 1968 383 H code Charger not #s matching last year for $25k, but ALWAYS had wanted a 69'. I ultimately backed out of the deal because my dad pointed out that I only ever got tunnel vision when I saw a 69' (although any 68-70 Charger is beautiful). Fast forward 7 months later and bam! By luck and browsing this forum I connected with a member who was selling his 1969 Charger R/T numbers matching that is a high #2. It arrives this weekend  Do not jump on anything. Do the homework, fly out to see the car, and do NOT blindly bid like I did.

[indetrucks]

I'm honestly surprised you haven't considered buying a lesser car and building it to something extremely fun?  <= could likely be done for 10-15K less then that 70R/T

I have spent a LOT of money restoring a few cars, and to be honest... just don't want to do it anymore.  It's a lot of time and headache which in the end, doesn't prove for a positive ROI.
I have seen people dump $100k in to cars only to get $50k for them.  I want to be the guy spending $50k on someone's $100k restoration (or whatever).  I'm in my late 30's, looking to start a family and just won't have time for the tinkering or restoration.

Hey man, just wait for what you truly want.....I had bid and won on a 1968 383 H code Charger not #s matching last year for $25k, but ALWAYS had wanted a 69'. I ultimately backed out of the deal because my dad pointed out that I only ever got tunnel vision when I saw a 69' (although any 68-70 Charger is beautiful). Fast forward 7 months later and bam! By luck and browsing this forum I connected with a member who was selling his 1969 Charger R/T numbers matching that is a high #2. It arrives this weekend   Do not jump on anything. Do the homework, fly out to see the car, and do NOT blindly bid like I did.

You make a lot of sense.  Like you, I love 68-70 Chargers! But what makes me weak are the 69's.    I'm not very good at the patience thing unfortunately.  haha

[Bandit72]

with a  62k asking price I'm willing to say there's a really good chance he's still got it. Not everyone has 62 grand laying around to spend on a 40+ year old car...

[indetrucks]

with a  62k asking price I'm willing to say there's a really good chance he's still got it. Not everyone has 62 grand laying around to spend on a 40+ year old car...

Well I shot him an email.  
My perfect find would be either a true Triple Black or Red 69 Charger R/T SE with 4-Speed on the Magnum 500 wheels.
For the right car, I will find the budget (sell off my current Stable).  This is car I want to keep and cherish for a LONG time.  Shoot, if I drop the money I'm thinking it's going to cost me, I might even request to be buried in it.  haha

[indreams84]

with a  62k asking price I'm willing to say there's a really good chance he's still got it. Not everyone has 62 grand laying around to spend on a 40+ year old car...

Well I shot him an email.  
My perfect find would be either a true Triple Black or Red 69 Charger R/T SE with 4-Speed on the Magnum 500 wheels.
For the right car, I will find the budget (sell off my current Stable).  This is car I want to keep and cherish for a LONG time.  Shoot, if I drop the money I'm thinking it's going to cost me, I might even request to be buried in it.  haha

You sound just like me as far as my knowing that I am not a restorer, nor do I want a project. I just figured at 29 with no wife or kids (yet), what better time to finally pursue my dream...having never financed a new vehicle or anything, I was in a good position to buy a nice finished car 

[bill440rt]

If the '70 RT/SE truly is unrestored it is in remarkable condition. Untouched original, unrestored cars are becoming increasingly hard to find these days. And, very hard to put a price tag on. But I'd have to say his price is not way off the charts.
A few things I did notice, yes the underhood A/C parts are installed in one photo, missing in the next. So are the heater hoses. I would inquire as to why.
Also has some kind of electronic ignition box bolted to the P/S inner fender.
If the seats are original then they are leather (std on SE's), and if that's the case they are in very good condition for 40+ year old leather seats.

If you have doubts on a '70, then hold off for a '69 IF that is what you really want.

[indetrucks]

If the '70 RT/SE truly is unrestored it is in remarkable condition. Untouched original, unrestored cars are becoming increasingly hard to find these days. And, very hard to put a price tag on. But I'd have to say his price is not way off the charts.
A few things I did notice, yes the underhood A/C parts are installed in one photo, missing in the next. So are the heater hoses. I would inquire as to why.
Also has some kind of electronic ignition box bolted to the P/S inner fender.
If the seats are original then they are leather (std on SE's), and if that's the case they are in very good condition for 40+ year old leather seats.

If you have doubts on a '70, then hold off for a '69 IF that is what you really want.

Thanks for pointing that stuff out.  I will ask when I go and take a look at it.
You are right as far as the rarity of an unmolested and un-restored charger goes.  Especially one with 70k og miles, the original license plates AND the original selling dealers plate frames.

This is why I am questioning the wait on a 69 to pop up. Something like this 70 doesn't come along often.

[6spd68]

I have spent a LOT of money restoring a few cars, and to be honest... just don't want to do it anymore.  It's a lot of time and headache which in the end, doesn't prove for a positive ROI.
I have seen people dump $100k in to cars only to get $50k for them.  I want to be the guy spending $50k on someone's $100k restoration (or whatever).  I'm in my late 30's, looking to start a family and just won't have time for the tinkering or restoration.

That's fair, I'm only 29, and only had about 16K kicking around for my Charger, hence my two-year, restomod engagement.  Unfortunately, being an 80's kid, my 'stable' never had the capital return to purchase a nicer one.  All the best though, I hope you find a truely amazing machine 

[ACUDANUT]

It's easy.. Buy the 70 and fall in love.

[indetrucks]

I have spent a LOT of money restoring a few cars, and to be honest... just don't want to do it anymore.  It's a lot of time and headache which in the end, doesn't prove for a positive ROI.
I have seen people dump $100k in to cars only to get $50k for them.  I want to be the guy spending $50k on someone's $100k restoration (or whatever).  I'm in my late 30's, looking to start a family and just won't have time for the tinkering or restoration.

That's fair, I'm only 29, and only had about 16K kicking around for my Charger, hence my two-year, restomod engagement.  Unfortunately, being an 80's kid, my 'stable' never had the capital return to purchase a nicer one.  All the best though, I hope you find a truely amazing machine 

Thanks man!  I'll post up as soon as I get my hands on one.
I had a stable of 5 collector cars all in really nice condition.  Just sold two and will probably have to sell a third in order to afford the Charger I want.   My girl thinks Im nuts, but I always tell her... at least I will break even or make a little on these old cars while I enjoy them.  Shoot, they probably earn more than bank rates these days. 

[ACUDANUT]

Banks, don't pay crap for your money laying in them.

[70 sublime]

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[indetrucks]

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Thanks!
They got anything like that for 69's?

[indetrucks]

Talked to the owner of the car.  I set up an appt to go look it over.
He sounded foreign and much older (maybe German) ?

Over the phone he says.
He is the second over, purchased it from an 80yr old man many many years ago who was the original owner.
Everything is original and it was resprayed in the late 80's professionally.
A/C is in it but does not work.
Heater does not work (fan turns on but no heat).
Drivers side rear small window intermittently does not work
Cruise control does not work
Says the car is absolutely unmolested and still has the factory exhaust etc.

I asked him about the box on the inner fender and he reacted as if everything you see is as it was from the factory with no aftermarket parts.
Says an old Mopar pro looked at it and said it had every option he has ever hear of an more??   

I asked about original paperwork, he said he's got nothing.  The old guy he got it from barely remembered where the keys were.  haha

So?  $40k if it's on the up and up?

[crj1968]

Well the ignition box is definitely not factory, not that it's a huge deal  BUT you know when people talk about factory correct and want big $$ and something that obvious is right there, then you gotta question everything.  Get a real mopar pro to go with you $45K is a lot of money.

Good luck man....

[73rallye440magnum]

Ahh, the too popular repainted 'completely original' car.

It's not completely original. A lot of the desirable options don't work.

$40k sounds strong now.

[73rallye440magnum]

The '69 Hemi car is available.

http://daytona.craigslist.org/cto/4446372936.html

[indreams84]

^ that is absolutely not worth 65k...

[indetrucks]

^ that is absolutely not worth 65k...

I agree!  For a car that they don't know if it came 4spd or automatic, plus all the listed defect.  Do they know if it's even a real Hemi? 
Plus the repaint.. bummer