All original 1970 Charger R/T, SE and local to me, worth $45k?

[indetrucks]

Told my car buddy I was looking for a 69 Charger R/T.  He says a friend is selling a completely original 1970 R/T SE charger.
Here's what I know...

California car since day 1. No rust, patch work, or replaced panels anywhere.  It's a 100% matching numbers car all around.
70,000 original miles with the original interior.  In fact, he says another one of his buddies who is a Judge at major car shows claimed it to be graded as a very high 2 car.

Here are some pics I managed to get.
Now I really had my mind set on a 69 (love the front end), but everything I like has been sold or needs work.

Contemplating picking up this 70 and maybe holding on to it until I find the right 69.  At $45k, is this a solid buy?
Who knows, maybe I'll end up liking and keeping this 70 and fall more in love with it over time  

Quick question, I like the other style wheels I commonly see on other cars (rally?)  What wheels are these and were they standard or option?

[Baldwinvette77]

I don't know anything about value, But 45k seems high for a car with torn seats, i think those are Rallye wheels, The others are magnum 500's? 

[crj1968]

Those are Rallye wheels, you are probably thinking Magnum 500 wheels.

70's are cooler than 69's so there is your answer.  

If the car is what everyone says it is worth the $.

However, if you want a 69 you shouldn't really have a problem finding one for around the same price.  

[indetrucks]

Yea, magnum wheels... that's what I like.  Were both wheels optioned or did one style come stock and the other style were optioned?

Maybe I need to have a little more patience for the right 69. Just seems they get sold so quickly (even the ones in the $50k range) 

[crj1968]

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[indetrucks]

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I wish....
That's this one and its been sold.
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109919.0.html

Good looking out though

[crj1968]

Doh!  
Well if your heart is set on a 69, I'd say be patient.  
Me, I'd take any 2nd gen charger. It's like choosing between a 70-71 Cuda / Challenger  


Might want to look into that "totally original" claim on the 70. There are some things that aren't original. (ignition, wheels...probably other stuff charger geeks here will spot.)

[myk]

DO NOT SETTLE.  $45K is a big gamble in the hopes that you will learn to love that '70.  If you want a '69 then hold out for one.   Personally, I settled for a '69 when I dreamed of owning a '68; I love my car now but I will always regret not waiting for the right '68...

[70 sublime]

A good car is a good car
You do not have to keep it for ever
Other than the grill and bumper do you know what else is different on a 70 vs 69 ?
70 is the first year they went with the key in the steering column
So when you get out and take the keys the steering is locked and the transmision is locked in park
Makes the car a little harder to mess with if you are not there (69 once you got the door open it is easy to roll it away)
Not that you would ever be very far away from your car but I think it is a plus for the 70 car over the 68 69 cars when you are out and about 

[Ghoste]

And Rallye wheels were available on the 70 models.

[polywideblock]

also the first year for high back buckets wasn't it   

[Ghoste]

Yes, speaking of which, are they actually torn is that the way the light is playing off of wrinkles in the leather insert?

[polywideblock]

gota say I love that colour combo   

[greenpigs]

Since it is original it MIGHT be worth the asking price, if it was restored about 10K less.

Doesn't make much sense to some but a car that clean and original are hard to find.

Get a 69 or you will kick yourself when a 69 comes up for sale, even harder if it is cheaper. Doubt you will find an all original 69 RT for 45K.

[Ghoste]

I agree, I bought a 67 because it was cheap and it was supposed to be a temporary car while I searched for the right 69.  I ended up owning it longer than any old car I've had before it.

[XH29N0G]

Looks nice. I grew up with a 70. If I were you, I would think about it.  I would go for it if I could accept that it would be instead of a 69.  If after thinking about it I was still set on a 69, I would wait.
Cost seems in the ballpark of reasonable - some could be cheaper - maybe some more expensive - depends on buyer.

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

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[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

DO NOT SETTLE.  $45K is a big gamble in the hopes that you will learn to love that '70.  If you want a '69 then hold out for one.  

[myk]

Ultimately, I've come to think that a very good car is going to start in the $40-45K price range.  With respect to that car, assuming that it truly is an all-original sheet metal car, then in my opinion it is well priced...

[Back N Black]

I would rather pay 45k for a total restored car. It would be cool to have an original, but that means ever part is 45 years old. If you plan on driving it, i would want all new parts.

[Ghoste]

I'd rather have the original.  If something needs replacing I'd rather do it myself than trust someone prior to me.

[myk]

Restored or original, I'm willing to bet that a very good car that isn't anything special (Hemi, 6bbl, etc) is going to land in the $40-50K price range...

[Ghoste]

I'd be of much the same opinion.

[indetrucks]

Yes, speaking of which, are they actually torn is that the way the light is playing off of wrinkles in the leather insert?

I have not seen it in person yet, but was told that the owner wanted to keep it totally OG (including interior) so he never did any seat work. The drivers seat has creases, but they are not tears.

I am not totally opposed to the 70.  The only reason I like the 69 better is the split in the grill.  Other than that, to me they are equal elsewhere.  Another note worth mentioning, I have a friend who picked up a base model 70 Charger with no rust.  However, it needs A LOT of work (including grill etc).  He says that he is having a VERY hard time finding part for the 70, but the 68 and 69 has many more reproduction parts available.  He claims that no one makes grill parts for his 70.

If I get the a 70, am I going to have a harder time sourcing parts?  Is it true the 68 and 69 reproduction parts availability is more plentiful?

If I get back from Vegas this weekend and that 70 is still available, think I'll go take a look at it.  Bring $40k cash and see what happens.  But as someone mention, I will be a little bummed when I see the right 69 pop up.  This car is just the way I want to find a 69 too.  

[indetrucks]

What do the pro's think about this Black one I just came across?

Anyone familiar with it?

Real deal R/T, "J" code, #'s match 426 hemi, orig. dual four's, 4speed, dana 60, 4:10 power lock, ps, pdb, no rust ever.
Driver quality car, runs and drives awesome.
asking $62,900 or best offer !

*EDIT*
Just noticed the listing is over a month old. Probably not worth even thinking about.
Hate when listings stay up so long.