1969 R/T SE Mr.Norms

[chargerman69]

Anyone near Chicago that may have seen this one in person. Am over 4 hrs from it
1969 Dodge Charger RT/SE Mr.Norms number Matching running 440 came out of a large collection has every option factory Leather -cruise control and a lot more.

[Ghoste]

This isn't the one being sold by True Muscle Cars is it?  Because if it is, you should be aware that is the new name that HLPAG go under.

[chargerman69]

Yes it is, Take it there no good to deal with

[bakerhillpins]

Grab some food and a comfy chair and plug the names into the search engine. 

[tan top]

 yeah for the last 3ish years 80% of  the 69s & 68s  they been selling have been suposadly  mr norms cars    , at least one rebody too , been loads of threads !!

[Ghoste]

Best thing you can do is just forget you ever saw the ad.

[TheAutoArchaeologist]

Here is the car in question.  Run away.

http://www.truemusclecars.com/69-dodge-charger-rtse.html

Ryan

[Lord Warlock]

easy to slap a mr norm's sticker on the window and claim mr norm's,  i'd like to see a closeup of the sticker to see how fresh it is, it should look aged, cracked and faded to be an original sticker.  (I've got mr norm's decals on my 2010 challenger, i'm a member of their club) have a GS Dodge sticker to put on the charger bumper, just not sure i want to do it since i doubt its ever been up north.

[cudaken]

1969 Dodge Charger RT/SE


RUNS and all Correct with Rare Options
Original 50,000 Mi Needs Restoration
only 15,999

Sure does not look like a 50,000 mile car to me!  

Cuda Ken

[polywideblock]

they have a 68 as well for 14K, and a 71 GTX  for 5k with the vin sticker from another car in the add     http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109846.0.html      as others have said RUN away

[indreams84]

That car has definitely been up for the better part of a year and a half....in today's current market for Gen 2 Chargers that is saying something.

[maxwellwedge]

G-S paperwork will prove that the VIN is Mr. Norm's. The rest of the car..........??

[chargerman69]

Yeah i've got to the point ware might just walk away from finding a charger for a bit, i found a trans am with a 455

[Ghoste]

It takes a lot of patience for sure.  You can bet if you buy the TA a perfect Charger will pop up.
What year is the Pontiac?

[DTB]

So as just a typical 69 r/t se car. Assume it's runnable and driving, what would you consider this mostly complete car to be worth? $9-12k? Must of had previous body work? No backup lights in the rear valance..

[Baldwinvette77]

Price and seller aside, That thing looks badass just the way it is 

[73rallye440magnum]

It looks like it has been on the receiving end of a few too many redox reactions.

Rotten.

[Daytona R/T SE]

Price and seller aside, That thing looks badass just the way it is  

You would think a baby bunny looked bad assed if somebody spray bombed it flat black.

[chargerman69]

I know happin before, i have a 79 se right now and one i found is a blue 80 with a 76 455 in it, will post a picture tomorrow

It takes a lot of patience for sure.  You can bet if you buy the TA a perfect Charger will pop up.
What year is the Pontiac?

[Lord Warlock]

Is it really that hard to find a nice 2nd gen for sale? Considering what people will take for them I'd think it wasn't that rare to find one on the market somewhere, especially if someone was willing to wait six months to a year while searching.  I can understand the rarity of a real GS car or an RT SE, there just weren't that many RT SE's made, only 4600 if i remember right, but there were lots of RT's, enough to still find a few around if you look hard.  And were willing to pay for one. 

[myk]

I don't think its an issue of cars being hard to find, rather no one wants to pay the 40-50K price tag that accompanies a decent car...

[Lord Warlock]

To be honest you're likely to spend close to 40k getting one into real nice driver condition, provided you start with a good base package to begin with, you'd pay much more for a nuts and bolts rotisserie job which is beyond my intent or desire.  If you really wanted one bad, they shouldn't balk at 30-35k for a driver or 50k for an older full resto.  The newer generation of owners don't seem to hesitate much in buying 50k SRT8's or dreaming of 70k hellcat blower assisted 392 cars, spending 40k for a real example of a musclecar shouldn't phase people much.  I still prefer the body of the 2nd gen charger over any other muscle car of the era.  Not my fault I got mine cheap, got it a loooooong time ago and just held on to it a long time.   

[Ghoste]

And it depends where you are too, if you are limited to searching online its easy to find a place like HLPAG or the much more expensive brokers.  If you look at something like the classifieds in MCG almost every Charger for sale ad is HLPAG.

[TPR]

Run away.
I've seen a HLPAG car in person, and it ain't pretty.
TPR

[cudaken]

Price and seller aside, That thing looks badass just the way it is  

You would think a baby bunny looked bad assed if somebody spray bombed it flat black.

Bet he would! 

[polywideblock]

And it depends where you are too, if you are limited to searching online its easy to find a place like HLPAG or the much more expensive brokers.  If you look at something like the classifieds in MCG almost every Charger for sale ad is HLPAG.

its the same in autabuy mag  almost all affordable cars are from them(true muscle cars )   

[Ghoste]

I really do wish those guys would get into Porsche's or Lada's or stamps or vintage garden tools or anything but Mopars.

[tan top]

And it depends where you are too, if you are limited to searching online its easy to find a place like HLPAG or the much more expensive brokers.  If you look at something like the classifieds in MCG almost every Charger for sale ad is HLPAG.

its the same in autabuy mag  almost all affordable cars are from them(true muscle cars )  

yeah  !!  two different sellers names & locations  also  ,  there was three different locations at  one point & different sellers names   , but all the same cars & identical pictures , although  one seller  the same cars ,  but taken inside a work shop     

[polywideblock]

they have a 70 aar cuda for 19 K and the pic in their add  has been lifted off a  fully restored cuda  in the same issue   
                   
how do they get away with it 

[Ghoste]

They change their name from time to time and I think they prefer sales to people far away from but I dont know how they hang in there.  They've been ripping people off for a long time now.

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

And it depends where you are too, if you are limited to searching online its easy to find a place like HLPAG or the much more expensive brokers.  If you look at something like the classifieds in MCG almost every Charger for sale ad is HLPAG.

its the same in autabuy mag  almost all affordable cars are from them(true muscle cars )   

The most expensive thing in life, is regret  Don't regret making the mistake of buying an "affordable" Charger only to learn it isn't what you thought 

[indetrucks]

I'm new here guys, can someone clue me in as to what "Mr. Norms" is?   

[TPR]

I'm new here guys, can someone clue me in as to what "Mr. Norms" is?   

Welcome indetrucks. A short intro about Mr Norm can be found here:

http://www.allpar.com/news/index.php/2012/12/mr-norm-celebrates-50-years-with-gss-cars

TPR

[polywideblock]

I'm new here guys, can someone clue me in as to what "Mr. Norms" is?   

he was to dodge what Baldwin motion /yenko was to chevy 

[indetrucks]

Gotcha, thanks! 
So kinda like John Delorian was to Pontiac? GTO and all that.

[Ghoste]

No, he was a dealer who specialized in high performance Dodges.  (DeLorean was an engineer and division manager)  Grand Spaulding was not only the largest Dodge performance dealer but by the mid 70's he had become the number one volume retailer for Dodge overall worldwide.

[Baldwinvette77]

He was kinda like Carrol Shelby To the mustang, Ford made the car, Shelby made it Better