E15 revisited

[Ghoste]

Bull had posted a warning about this stuff two years ago urging everyone to write Congress but they found a way to go around Congress and push it through by just having the EPA mandate it into existence.  So get ready for crappier fuel because its about to hit the pumps.
So much for checks and balances and letting the people have a voice.

[el dub]

Maybe we ought to go back to natural law.

[66FBCharger]

I'm worried about this fuel. It is going to ruin lawn mowers, snow blowers and all but the newest cars.
Are there any additives to help minimize the potential damage this "fuel" can cause?

[Aero426]

Have not heard anything about E15 happening in the Milwaukee area for over a year or so now.     We are mandated by the EPA as a problem area as we are upstream from Chicago.     Sounds like when it arrives, it will sneak in quietly.

I thought that E10 was still going to be available alongside E15 (at a price premium I am sure  ).   Sounds like the way they do it is to blend the higher concentration of ethanol right at the pump.  Which means the station must invest in new technology pumps.   In Minnesota, there are technology grants available by the Corn Growers Assn and Dept of Agriculture to help offset the costs. 

[Ghoste]

My understanding also is that there will be blender pumps and a higher priced "better" fuel.

[68X426]

Here's an article yesterday on this very subject.  Seems that "they" and "we" are fighting back, with success.

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/epa-admits-negative-effects-of-e15-fuel-helps-ama-fight-back-80353.html

In California it's called E85, instead of E15.  Just a better way for marketing the screw.

[Ghoste]

It would sure be nice to win one for a change. 

[cdr]

Here's an article yesterday on this very subject.  Seems that "they" and "we" are fighting back, with success.

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/epa-admits-negative-effects-of-e15-fuel-helps-ama-fight-back-80353.html

In California it's called E85, instead of E15.  Just a better way for marketing the screw.

e85 is 85 % alky...e15 is 15% alky

[Highbanked Hauler]

My understanding also is that there will be blender pumps and a higher priced "better" fuel.

   Sunoco  used to have a blender system in their pumps back in the 50s-60s, 190 was the cheap regular and 260 was the good stuff with 2 or 3 other numbers in between and yes there was a difference but I couldn't tell you what the octane was.

[Ghoste]

Yeah, they had the blender pumps around here up until the 80's at the Sunoco stations.  Haven't seen one on since then that I can think of though.

[6spd68]

Yeah, they had the blender pumps around here up until the 80's at the Sunoco stations.  Haven't seen one on since then that I can think of though.

It was a sad day for me when our Sunocos got converted to Petro-Canadas...   

[Ghoste]

Agree 100%.

[6spd68]

Was it not a better experience from start to finish? 

1) Always a couple cents cheaper
2) Better points system:  Filling up my T-bird with 94, would give me about 1100 Sunoco Points - about 1$ in gas back, VS Petro Canada's 600 points that don't even equal to 50 cents at the end of the day
3) Rain-X windshield washer fluid, and a whole slew of better products on the whole
4) CIBC ATM's (Some Petros have'em too) VS Generic Petro Canada ATM
5) The pumps were better...  Debatable I know, but IMPO the Sunoco ones were superior. (AND THEY ALL HAD 94) <= I know Petro is catching up, but eff'em anyway...

ECT... ECT...

I remember stating those facts when I got e-mailed a survey prior to the conversion.  I even went as far as following through on my initial threat to them.  I started using Shell gas and mixing lead...

[68X426]

Here's an article yesterday on this very subject.  Seems that "they" and "we" are fighting back, with success.

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/epa-admits-negative-effects-of-e15-fuel-helps-ama-fight-back-80353.html

In California it's called E85, instead of E15.  Just a better way for marketing the screw.

e85 is 85 % alky...e15 is 15% alky

I didn't know that.  Thanks.