Mr. Norm 1969 Charger 500 Restoration

[CornDogsCharger]

I have a blown up picture of that pic off of the original negative. I'll see if I can identify the color. I am sure Norm sold more than 3 or 4 500's. Not all the paperwork was salavaged by Larry.

That would be great. I think Danny mention that he did not have any records of a B7 Blue C500, but I'm not possitive.  I would have thought Mr Norm would have sold more than 2 but who knows. This car sat on the lot for a while... maybe they didn't sell as good as he would have thought. It would be nice talk with him about the car because he seems pretty sharp on remembering details, from what I've gathered.

Justin
"CornDog"

[odcics2]

The 500 in front of Mr/ Norms looks a lot darker than B5, but perhaps it's the age of the photo? Seems like it will be next to impossible to prove it IS that car, but sure would be neat.

I vote for B7...   

[CornDogsCharger]

I originally thought it was B7 too but I studied the picture and, in my opinion, it is now a toss up between B5 and B7. But I am leaning towards B5.  I think this because 1. The photo that you commonly see is old and the quality of color is not very accurate... and 2. You can not go by the passenger side of the car, due to a heavy shadow.  Just look at the red Super Bee. The best spot is to focus on the rear valance of the car.  I would like to see a very high quality clear version of this picture. Either way, it's still pretty cool that this car was sold new at Grand Spaulding.

Justin
"CornDog"

[held1823]

a good clue to how "off" the blue is, is the mailbox on the right

[Ghoste]

I was wondering about the mailbox color too but wasn`t sure if they had changed over the years or not.

[odcics2]

Valid points!!     

I know a certain car that looks different in various vintage color photos, too!   

[69_500]

Let me dig around a bit and see if I have a better copy of that picture. I know I have one that is super sized. It is blown up to 6'x8'. Bought it to hang in barn once it is finished.

[Ghoste]

6 foot by 8 foot!!??  Thats enormous! 

[tan top]

wonder how many C500s were sold from MR Norms , did he still have all the invoices etc still of all the cars he sold , or have I imagined this  

Well, when I spoke with Larry Weiner about the paperwork, he told me that he purchased all of the boxes of paperwork from the dealership.  He went inside and rescued boxes and boxes full of stuff.  He said, at the time, homeless people had gotten into the building and used some of the papers to start fires, wipe themselves, etc.  So as far as 'actual numbers' of cars... it's hard to say for sure.  He did tell me that in all of the records that he acquired, he only showed records on two Charger 500s being sold at GS.  I started a post the other day asking about another Mr Norm C500 that I found on the net and it appears that particular car was originally F8 Green. ( http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109377.0.html )  The car I am working on was originally B5 Blue with black interior, white stripe, and Road Wheels... just like the car in the old picture posted above.  I'm not positive, and would like to research it a little more, but I believe this could be the same car.  The picture was taken in the Fall of 1969.  Grand Spaulding purchased this car on Jul 25, 1969 from Chrysler and did not sell the car until Apr 27, 1970... so it is very possibly that this is the same car in the picture.

Justin
"CornDog"

oh right ,  could well be the same car  , although like whats been mentioned  looks darker B7  , but  old pictures , with the lighting & scans of could make things look way off  

[GL#10]

My vote is for it being the same car  , is the owner going to go back bone stock original with it ??

[CornDogsCharger]

The car will be restored back to 100% stock in appearance.  The only thing that will be altered is the engine internals.  We usually clean up the ports a little, gaskets match the openings, will sometimes add roller lifters and rockers, install a mild cam, and balance the rotating assembly.  Nothing radical though... all in all, it will be a very tight and responsive engine.  Like I said, other than that, everything will be stone stock... even the polyglass red line tires.

Justin
"CornDog"

[odcics2]

I was wondering about the mailbox color too but wasn`t sure if they had changed over the years or not.

Here's a vintage unrestored 1960s stamp dispenser!   Note the "Post Office Blue" !
All one has to do is adjust the original Charger 500 photo color so the mailbox matches this photo and the car should be
closer to the real color.   May not be exact, but closer...   

[CornDogsCharger]

Good reference photo!  My brother does graphic design knows photoshop very well. I'll see if he can adjust the color on the GS photo.

Justin
"CornDog"

[CornDogsCharger]

My brother played with the color a bit and this is what he came up with. Still too hard to tell 100%

Justin
"CornDog"

[UFO]

It is blown up to 6'x8'. Bought it to hang in barn once it is finished.

Just read the vin off this photo.

[68pplcharger]

 

[odcics2]

My brother played with the color a bit and this is what he came up with. Still too hard to tell 100%

Justin
"CornDog"

I'll tell ya what - that leasing sign blue is dead nuts on.

[69_500]

Might be a while before I can dig my large print out. It is back in a corner. My plan was to get it out once the out building is built. But with a kid on the way this year, it might get pushed off for a bit.

[Ghoste]

They have a way of doing that.  (and congratulations  )

[r4daytona]

You guys always impress me with your knowledge and resources, not to hijack this thread about this 500, but anybody have a picture on the 1969 sales show in St. Louis - Gene told me my car was there.   Great 500 and looking forward to the history on this car.

[CornDogsCharger]

Just a few parts will need replacing....



Justin
"CornDog"

[Ghoste]

At least its nothing minor.

[fy469rtse]

What no Dutchman panel , 

[Dave Kanofsky]

Just a few parts will need replacing....

Justin
"CornDog"

Didn't the "Bluesmobile" look like that at the end of the movie?

[Dave Kanofsky]

Too bad you aren't working on this Mr. Norm's Charger 500...

(http://www.nhra.com/blog/dragster-insider/)