'71 Dart Swinger, mean or silly looking?

[Drache]

440 auto
engine was built and dyno tuned by K&S machine in Kelowna under 1000 miles
Aluminum heads,comp cam,Keith Black pistons 10.6-1 all parts are new
Moser fabricated rear end 391 posi
Willwood front disc brakes

way too much to list.

$22,500

[JB400]

Outside of the scoop, not a bad looking car.  Now, if it had a blower under that scoop   Blacked out firewall

[bakerhillpins]

Looks Foose inspired.

Not silly but not my tastes.

[SRT-440]

Looks good to me...the scoop doesn't look "bad" just not a fan of anything thats not a blower coming thru the hood. Over all a nice looking dart! 

[tan top]

  put 15 inch rallye wheels on it ,  take the hood scoop thingy off , & give it a stock type , color repaint , change the steering wheel    

[Drache]

https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=b5e271b5c4fff8d0&id=B5E271B5C4FFF8D0!219&ithint=video,.MOV&authkey=!ACc5oQDrwqBmsJ0

Here's a video of the owner doing a walk around for the car

[Kern Dog]

A black engine bay ruins it. It seems to me that if someone goes to the trouble to restore a car AND do an engine swap, they must have taken short cuts elsewhere if they skipped repainting the engine bay.

[Mytur Binsdirti]

As it sits; silly.

[Cooter]

I can't understand big wheels and rubber band tires with all that torque. Never gonna hook even around curves, but I guess that m usta been why the older guys laughed at my 67 with air shocks and big block too.

Not my thing. Two tone belongs on Suburbans.

[Drache]

I can't understand big wheels and rubber band tires with all that torque.

I will agree with that. 18" tires on these cars just don't work.

[cudaken]

Does not do a thing for me! Well it does one thing! 

Repaint, dump the Chevy Air Cleaner Blower want to be and give the wheels back to the 75 Caprice they came from with some work it would be OK.

[Drache]

Does not do a thing for me! Well it does one thing! 

Repaint, dump the Chevy Air Cleaner Blower want to be and give the wheels back to the 75 Caprice they came from with some work it would be OK.

I dont mind the paint. Too many plain jane looking cars 

Wheels would be gone instantly, back to 15's.

As for the air cleaner, it's different although a hood with a proper scoop is needed.

[1974dodgecharger]

sits too high for big rims, two tone paint not my liking, black engine bay who cares you know all you old dudes did the same damn thing back in the 60s and 70s can care not to admit it, among those things I would buy it for 5k if I had the cash. 

[Drache]

sits too high for big rims, two tone paint not my liking, black engine bay who cares you know all you old dudes did the same damn thing back in the 60s and 70s can care not to admit it, among those things I would buy it for 5k if I had the cash. 

Well Im gonna go look at it. Like I said before if the car is in really good shape then I'll make an offer of $18,000, throw out those nasty tall wheels and get a hood with a scoop.

[DadsCharger00]

sits too high for big rims, two tone paint not my liking, black engine bay who cares you know all you old dudes did the same damn thing back in the 60s and 70s can care not to admit it, among those things I would buy it for 5k if I had the cash. 

Well Im gonna go look at it. Like I said before if the car is in really good shape then I'll make an offer of $18,000, throw out those nasty tall wheels and get a hood with a scoop.

So I'm confused....what kind of car do you want Drache? It's a dart one day, a charger another day....are you just wanting a car in general? I mean, all the power to ya no matter your choice....but just confused I guess

[Drache]

So I'm confused....what kind of car do you want Drache? It's a dart one day, a charger another day....are you just wanting a car in general? I mean, all the power to ya no matter your choice....but just confused I guess

I was looking for a new mopar simple as that. Something that didn't need "restoration" or major work.

That '70 Charger was not worth the $30,000 sad to say. And the only reason I might have spent that much was because it was a Charger, otherwise my budget was only supposed to be $20,000.

This car I should be able to pick up "cheaper" than everything else I've look at and fills all the needs of something I'll enjoy:
Big Block
Suregrip
Buckets
Floor Shift Automatic
Doesn't need any body work
Doesn't need any electrical work
Even has a modern stereo

This Dart looks like a car that will capture people's eye at a car show because it is different than all the stock looking cars there.

[crj1968]

340 Darts Dusters Demons look best just how they came off the showroom floor, in my expert opinion   

[cdr]

it looks like   

[Daytona R/T SE]

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[1974dodgecharger]

sits too high for big rims, two tone paint not my liking, black engine bay who cares you know all you old dudes did the same damn thing back in the 60s and 70s can care not to admit it, among those things I would buy it for 5k if I had the cash.  

Well Im gonna go look at it. Like I said before if the car is in really good shape then I'll make an offer of $18,000, throw out those nasty tall wheels and get a hood with a scoop.

drache,
I hope your being sarcastic about the 18k, seriously we can all at least agree on here 100% as forum members its not a 18k car.  MAX on a sunny day 8k car....
My car has the same rims....

[myk]

Some people on this board act like they've never seen 'resto-mod work before.   

That car needs to be lowered.  Other than that it looks alright...

[Drache]

drache,
I hope your being sarcastic about the 18k, seriously we can all at least agree on here 100% as forum members its not a 18k car.  MAX on a sunny day 8k car....

I think you're the one being sarcastic 

The engine, rear end, end front disc brake kit would be worth $8k.

I got $7k for my '67 Dart GT that needed a restoration.

[Paul G]

Some people on this board act like they've never seen 'resto-mod work before.  

That car needs to be lowered.  Other than that it looks alright...

I agree. Although I like that car just the way it sits. I am not a stock type person. I am glad others restore to stock, it preserves the original look. Just not for me. I like changing things. Making an old relic perform more like a modern car. Price, is what someone is willing to pay. You can't build that car for $18k. Some people have no clue what it costs to build a car.

[Drache]

Some people on this board act like they've never seen 'resto-mod work before.  

That car needs to be lowered.  Other than that it looks alright...

I agree. Although I like that car just the way it sits. I am not a stock type person. I am glad others restore to stock, it preserves the original look. Just not for me. I like changing things. Making an old relic perform more like a modern car. Price, is what someone is willing to pay. You can't build that car for $18k. Some people have no clue what it costs to build a car.

I have a feeling if the car had 15" wheels and a solid color paint job most wouldn't have a problem with the car 

[Challenger340]

only my opinion.... but aptly parked beside the Dumpsters as it should be

[JB400]

If you do get it, put the 68 Hemi dart hoodscoop on it.

[Drache]

If you do get it, put the 68 Hemi dart hoodscoop on it.

I was thinking the 6 pack scoop might look slightly better than the Hemi  

[JB400]

Choosing the Hemi hood scoop, you could paint it black, silver, or the red and have it look like it was designed for it.  Choosing the 6 Pack, you'd just about have to paint it the red.  It could look like a cheap add on afterthought if you painted it black or silver, unless maybe making it into a Shaker setup instead of bolting it into the hood.

[1974dodgecharger]

I still say no no matter what he has in it brakes stuff I can do easy peezy.  If he had a hemi under there sure....then 18k take my money.

drache,
I hope your being sarcastic about the 18k, seriously we can all at least agree on here 100% as forum members its not a 18k car.  MAX on a sunny day 8k car....

I think you're the one being sarcastic 

The engine, rear end, end front disc brake kit would be worth $8k.

I got $7k for my '67 Dart GT that needed a restoration.

[polywideblock]

why does everybody overlook one of the nicest scoops to ever come out of mopar   

                                 

                           

[Ghoste]

I always preferred the separated twin scoops on those cars myself.

[Drache]

why does everybody overlook one of the nicest scoops to ever come out of mopar   

                                 

                           

Not sure that scoop would be tall enough to go over the intake 

[polywideblock]

just a thought   

[tan top]

why does everybody overlook one of the nicest scoops to ever come out of mopar   

                                 

                           

[SRT-440]

My '71 has a flat black 6-pak lift off hood...looks great..doesn't look unfinished. The Superbee's and the Hemi Darts had the same treatment. It's all in the eyes of the beholder. 

[Drache]

Slowly making my way south to go look at it tomorrow.

[Paul G]

Good luck with the negotiation. I hope you take it home.

[Drache]

Good luck with the negotiation. I hope you take it home.

Seems the car is well known and the owner is also well known for the body work he does on cars in his city.

That can be a good sign.

[1974dodgecharger]

Go get it drache 

[Drache]

So I got the car for $18,000. The car is structurally sound. The wheels on the car are worth about $440 each plus the tires which are $300 each so I'll sell those to buy the 15" wheels for that car.

The car has a LOT of power and I love it. I couldnt stop for gas or food without someone running up to ask a bunch of questions.

The owner gave me receipts for every part or work done to the car. $6,800 for the motor if I remember reading the receipt properly, $3,200 for the rear end, list goes on.

It's a pleasure to drive until you have to gas that damn thing up with premium  

The 18" wheels dont look as bad in person as it does in the pictures but they will go. I'm loving everything else about the car, including the paint. It's not a show car, it's a really nice driver. I even love the B&M ratchet shifter  

[JB400]

Glad you was able to get it.

[polywideblock]

        now you are gonna have to make that choice about hood scoops   

[Drache]

First step is to get rid of the low profiles and the 18" wheels

[Lighthorseman]

Congrats, Drache.     Make sure you post updates...with pictures!   

[Drache]

Few hiccups. The speedometer decided to quit. The guy said he replaced it with a new cable the day before I got there so I'm hoping he didn't tighten it enough at one end. The other is I think the kickdown linkage needs to be tweaked. When you stomp the peddle there is a big one second delay before you get pasted into the seat.

Other than that the gas milage sucks 

[bill440rt]

Congrats! 

Doesn't look like a bad car at all.
My  ?
Wheels look good, maybe just lower or change the stance a bit. Find a hood scoop you like to cover up or get rid of the chrome snorkel thing, and lose the tail stripe (it breaks up the flow of the 2-tone paint scheme).

But it's your car, have fun with it! 

[Drache]

Congrats! 

Doesn't look like a bad car at all.
My  ?
Wheels look good, maybe just lower or change the stance a bit. Find a hood scoop you like to cover up or get rid of the chrome snorkel thing, and lose the tail stripe (it breaks up the flow of the 2-tone paint scheme).

But it's your car, have fun with it! 

I'll order the tires monday when I take the car to my cousin to figure out the speedometer problem and to help me tweak the kickdown linkage.

[polywideblock]

maybe just change the stripes colour , check out Aug. mopar action" rammed dart  "

[Drache]

maybe just change the stripes colour , check out Aug. mopar action" rammed dart  "

Yeah I was talking to the owner of that Dart on FABO 

[Drache]

After driving the 5 hours home yesterday I found a Toyota Prius in the grille of my new Dart. I let it go back into the wild but I'm not sure if it will survive in this strange environment so far from home....

[Ghoste]

It would have been more humane to finish it off but then I suppose you could be stuck with the messy environmental hassle of disposing of the toxic carcass.

[Drache]

[69bronzeT5]

After driving the 5 hours home yesterday I found a Toyota Prius in the grille of my new Dart. I let it go back into the wild but I'm not sure if it will survive in this strange environment so far from home....

What?

[Drache]

After driving the 5 hours home yesterday I found a Toyota Prius in the grille of my new Dart. I let it go back into the wild but I'm not sure if it will survive in this strange environment so far from home....

What?

I think the joke went over your head Cody 

[moparguy01]

for the love of God take those stupid eye stickers off that damn scoop. I don't know where the vomit smiley is right now.

The car doesn't look bad for sure, I just hate those scoops. and i hate those stupid stickers worse than I hate those scoops. whats worse is when they put those damned led's in the pupils so it lights up. Just horrible. I think its worse than those stupid kid dolls leaning against cars at the car shows.

[Drache]

for the love of God take those stupid eye stickers off that damn scoop. I don't know where the vomit smiley is right now.

The car doesn't look bad for sure, I just hate those scoops. and i hate those stupid stickers worse than I hate those scoops. whats worse is when they put those damned led's in the pupils so it lights up. Just horrible. I think its worse than those stupid kid dolls leaning against cars at the car shows.

These ones aren't decals, they are painted right onto the valves

[cudaken]

 

[Drache]

Here is the "dyno" info K&S Machine gave me when I asked about the engine they built.

[Lord Warlock]

Paint some breasts into the scoop holes then the guys will all like it.  I dislike the scoop through the hood as well, but then again I'm not that fond of darts in general, only one I ever considered getting was a 70 dart swinger that had the two scoops on the hood from the factory, the next door neighbor took me along to look it over before he bought it, was a real 340 swinger with a 4spd.  Think he paid 400 for it, but this was also back in 1980.  He sold it a few years later when his daddy bought him a new celica. 

I'm sure a big block dart would be fun to drive, and not fun to feed.  A bit late to make the silly or mean choice now that you got it.  Enjoy what you have, make it your own, however you see fit, a dart doesn't need to be restored to factory specs, doesn't make them more collectible, they sold a lot of them way back when.

[Paul G]

Those are some great power numbers. That car has to be a rocket! Hard to keep the tires from breaking loose I would think. I would not change anything too quickly. Get used to the car for a while. I like the scoop and the wheels just the way it sits.

[Drache]

Those are some great power numbers. That car has to be a rocket! Hard to keep the tires from breaking loose I would think. I would not change anything too quickly. Get used to the car for a while. I like the scoop and the wheels just the way it sits.

On a wet road this car would be deadly. I punched it yesterday going down the highway and the rear end of the car started going squirrely. Then the tires finally got enough traction and I lost my testicles somewhere just north of town. Still haven't found them.

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Good looking ride!  Good luck with it

[Baldwinvette77]

Sweet, i like it the way it is, wheels and all... I don't love it (no offense) But seriously cool car 

[RallyeMike]

I should have read this more closely - I didnt realize you bought it. Congrats, it looks like a very fun car.  

I think the bigger wheels look fine and fit in with the new-school look of the car. It's really not my cup of tea, but if I owned it and was gonna change one thing on it, I'd get rid of the eyeballs on the scoop. It's juts too comical.

Now if you are gonna throw on 15's, by all means, keep the eyeballs, add some fuzzy dice, air shocks, and highjacker decals in the quarter windows.

[Ghoste]

I think you're going to have a ball with it Drache.

[Sublime/Sixpack]

only my opinion.... but aptly parked beside the Dumpsters as it should be
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    As is, but could be made into a pretty sweet little A-body