I need more advice ASAP (haha)

[Old Moparz]

It looks nice in the photos but there is no way in hell I'd be looking to complete the sale spending that kind of money without physically inspecting the car myself.

I might be leaving Saturday to look at the car. That's why I'm looking for advice on it ASAP.

And once again, you cannot compare US Prices to Canadian prices. Yes a car might be only worth $25,000 in the US, but to get a $25,000 car into Canada I'd spend over $30,000. I don't know the prices in the US, can a person find a perfectly restored 100% 2nd Gen charger in the US for $20,000?

As for the statement on the quality of the car, yes that is why I want to look at the car and the guy refused to even sell the car unless I would look at it in person (not send anyone). As the old guy selling the charger said, it's a restored driver, not a show car.

And I am taking everything everyone says to mind and writing it down.

But think of this charger as buying a $22,000 USD car in the US and paying the exchange rate, taxes, and shipping costs on. In your minds is this car a $22,000 USD car?

The big item is the original differential.  Then the tranny, I have the original A/C system components, the original suspension parts, set of wheels and tires, original intake manifold, and a bunch of misc stuff – original steering box, fuel tank sender unit, sealed beams, decal kit, original Carter carb, Edlebrook carb tuning kit, and a bunch of stuff.  I didn't throw anything away, I kept everything I took off the car that was still serviceable.

Not because I said it, but I am glad you're going to go look at it so you don't get ripped off. Even if the seller is 100% honest, the differences in every person's perception of "Fair Condition" all the way to "Excellent Condition" will vary quite a bit. The fact that the seller is saying he won't sell it unless you see it tells me that he isn't trying to be deceptive. I told the guy who bought my '71 Barracuda that he should see it first, but being several states away he couldn't & sent someone. They crawled around the car, took a bunch of photos of it on the lift & a week later the buyer came with cash & a trailer.

If you end up not buying the car, whatever you do don't look at the trip as a waste of time & money. Look at it as a chance to make a trip, like a mini vacation, & a way to weed out potential money pits. Good luck.

[R6red4spd69RT]

Hey,

I'd say in the condition described it's about a 17,000 - 18,000 USD car. If it was a R/T I would peg it around 22,000 - 23,000 USD.

Mind you this is a very rough estimate.

[Drache]

1970 Charger R/T:
$45,000 - http://www.lonestarclassicmotors.com/1970-Dodge-Richmond-Texas-77406/5000123
$44,500 - http://cars-on-line.com/55552.html
$29,000 - http://cars-on-line.com/47367.html
$35,000 - http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Dodge-Charger-R-T-Hardtop-2-Door-7-2L-/301110087809
$36,000 - http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-White-Charger-PS-PB-PW-AC-Restored-Magnum-440-Tons-of-Documentation-/131122596698

The average going price for a "restored" '70 R/T is about $33,000 (I posted some of the examples above).

The average going price for a "restored" plain '70 is about $22,000 (ebay, cars-on-line, etc)

[R6red4spd69RT]

What level of "restored" are we talking about?

When it's called a "driver" by the seller, this can indicate a level of restoration. So, really the only way to get a good estimate of the value is to take a peek at it.

Overall, don't be surprised if it isn't overpriced if and when you take a look at it.

Good luck though!

[Drache]

I won't be looking at the car this week. I wanted to take money just in case but today is a national holiday, banks are closed. Didn't realize it until I went to the bank to deposit the money from selling the Dart. 

Looks like I'll have to wait a week.

[imabozo]

I won't be looking at the car this week. I wanted to take money just in case but today is a national holiday, banks are closed. Didn't realize it until I went to the bank to deposit the money from selling the Dart. 

Looks like I'll have to wait a week.

I usually don't weigh in on this stuff, but you solicited for advice so here goes. It looks a little on the high side for a cloned R/T. I bought a restored numbers matching R/T in Newfoundland last year for $35k. I thought that was a high price at the time, but a little over a year later I'm ok with it. A few grand here of there will not change your life as much as having the Charger you want will. These cars are not in great supply in Newfoundland so I knew I had to pay a little more, but I also didn't have to fly to the states and trailer it back. Life is short. If you can afford it and like it, go for it. There will always be work to do on an old car. Instead of waiting for the "perfect" car for $4000 less that may never appear in your area, start driving the car you know you want and quit looking anymore.

With that being said make sure you look the car over so you are not surprised when you get home.

[Drache]

Just got emailed these since I couldn't go look at the car today like I wanted (next weekend!)

Not a big fan of the decals under the hood but those can come off easily....

[ACUDANUT]

Time to move to the U.S. What have you got to lose. ? Anyway, have the buyer write a bill of sale that you paid 100 bucks for. Less tax and money going to the government.
Those decals are hiding rust I bet.

[TUFCAT]

I think you need to slow down a bit, ...or do you have that money just burning a hole in your pocket?

[Drache]

I think you need to slow down a bit, ...or do you have that money just burning a hole in your pocket?

I have $7000 cash in my pocket right now and another $25,000 in one savings and another $5,000 in another savings. 

That being said I can't even go look at this charger for a week so I'll sit back and relax and keep my eyes open.

[69bronzeT5]

Where is it? I can always look at it if it's in my area.

[Drache]

Where is it? I can always look at it if it's in my area.

Opposite direction, this car is in Golden  

Good thing I didn't go down, I just heard the passes near Golden got 3 inches of snow and it even started snowing here in Williams Lake!  

The Green Charger in my other thread Cody is near your area though.

[R6red4spd69RT]

Something to really consider here, as far as the sellers price is concerned, is if the 440 and internal parts are mid to late 70's and also if the suspension is non R/T (such as leaf springs and torsion bars).

These might sound like technical things, but if the seller cut corners here it should be reflected in the price/value.

Just my   

[Drache]

Something to really consider here, as far as the sellers price is concerned, is if the 440 and internal parts are mid to late 70's and also if the suspension is non R/T (such as leaf springs and torsion bars).

These might sound like technical things, but if the seller cut corners here it should be reflected in the price/value.

Just my   

Engine was professionally rebuilt about 4 years ago, 4000 miles on the engine. Balanced, blue printed, etc. Done by a Bruce Standeven who searching online rebuilds a lot of Hot Rod engines for car guys here in BC.

He also said "The front control arms are tubular aftermarket items, along with .960 torsion cars and all poly bushings"

[R6red4spd69RT]

Engine was professionally rebuilt about 4 years ago, 4000 miles on the engine. Balanced, blue printed, etc. Done by a Bruce Standeven who searching online rebuilds a lot of Hot Rod engines for car guys here in BC.

He also said "The front control arms are tubular aftermarket items, along with .960 torsion cars and all poly bushings"
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Sounds like this might be something for you!!

[Drache]

Sounds like this might be something for you!!

Either my dad will go down this weekend to look at it or I will and if the car is in decent shape then it will be brought home.

[Scaregrabber]

Not a horrible car and I'm sure he'll take less than asking. Being B.C. registered and able to drive it home saves a lot of coin and hassle. $2k and up transportation fees, $1k and up getting it through safety etc. My $2k Az. Sweptline ended up at $8k by the time I was able to register it in B.C.

Sheldon

[Drache]

Not a horrible car and I'm sure he'll take less than asking. Being B.C. registered and able to drive it home saves a lot of coin and hassle. $2k and up transportation fees, $1k and up getting it through safety etc. My $2k Az. Sweptline ended up at $8k by the time I was able to register it in B.C.

Sheldon

Yeah that saves a lot.

His lowest is $30,000 (for me). A family member phoned him up to try and buy the car himself (didn't tell the old man he was family of mine) and offered $30,000 for the car. The old man said the lowest he would go is $33,000.

Interesting.....

[firefighter3931]

Chryco (Neil) had a very nice 3rd gen Charger for sale awhile back ; 440 with pistol grip 4spd fully rebuilt. It looks better than most of the stuff you're looking at. I would contact him and see if the car is still available. He moved to Panama but the car stayed in Alberta and it might be in storage ?

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Ron

[crj1968]

I agree. That is one nice looking 71/72....   

[hemi-hampton]

$30,000+ sounds like way to much for that clone. You could by a real R/T cheaper in US. Just my opinion. LEON.

[Ghoste]

It does seem like a lot. 

[Drache]

It does seem like a lot. 

Yes for the price and with the electrical problems it has I decided not to get this car

[Daytona R/T SE]

For sale on moparts.com  


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJG8xF2r-e4


$19,995