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AMD or Goodmark

Started by MAC, March 31, 2014, 05:53:17 PM

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MAC

Need advise form the experienced body men, I'm restoring my 72 challenger and was curious who's body parts works best for our old cars AMD or Goodmark.
thanks in advance for your assistance
:cheers:

chargerrtmikey


sanders7981


sardillim


Patronus

'73 Cuda 340 5spd RMS
'69 Charger 383 "Luci"
'08 CRF 450r
'12.5 450SX FE

randy73

Quote from: MAC on March 31, 2014, 05:53:17 PM
Need advise form the experienced body men, I'm restoring my 72 challenger and was curious who's body parts works best for our old cars AMD or Goodmark.
thanks in advance for your assistance
:cheers:

I would go to the Cuda Challenger forum and ask, I know many people on that forum had problems with AMD quarters. I used Goodmark quarters and inner fenders with good luck, but I used AMD floor and trunk pans. My AMD door skin did not line up with the crease in the side, got a Goodmark and it did not line either, from what I have read about this on other forums and it seems like no 2 cars came out a like.

Good Luck!! 

Troy

It really depends on the part. You can't always compare the quality of a part that fits one car to the same part on a different car. In general AMD parts fit a lot better than Goodmark (or they'd never have been able to produce and market parts that have existed for a lot longer). On a Challenger, I know Goodmark's front and rear valances require more work to fit. Same with the bulge hood. Everything else I bought for my car was AMD. I didn't need full quarters but did use lower patches and they seemed all right. The driver's side trunk extension needed a lot of help but the passenger side dropped right in. The dutchman panel fit perfect but the curve of the body where it meets the quarters needed to be flattened a tiny bit. The tail panel also fit well with only a little trimming on the bottom and some hammer and dolly work at the ends behind the quarters. I used a full trunk pan that fit well except two very small places on the inner part of the frame rails, gas tank braces, a rear "under seat" floor pan, both rear foot wells, and a driver's side floor pan. All the floors went together without much work. The under seat pan was missing the two holes above the rear axle (for shock mounting?) and two of the holes under the seat with metal covers are smaller than the factory so the covers don't quite fit. I also patched pieces of the inner and outer wheel houses and all the pieces I used matched the factory. I just installed a lower rad support which fit fine but was missing a few holes that the factory had and two of the holes were slotted instead of round (can't see them once the bolts are in). Speaking of holes, the lower quarter patches, trunk extensions, and wheel houses all have alignment holes (I believe it's what they are) that don't align. Since the panels fit the space where the factory parts were I just lined them up using the shape. At some point I may doctor these up a little so it visually looks like the factory did it. Half of them probably get covered by seam sealer or undercoating so we'll see. Depending on the Goodmark part, the holes may not even exist so you have to add them if you want a factory appearance. I also have the patches for the lower windshield corners but I haven't tried to install them yet.

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

tsmithae

AMD won't be perfect, but in general it's better than the goodmark stuff.  I used AMD for everything except the trunk brace, which was goodmark.  Honestly, the only piece that I really had complaints about were the corner caps, but those are a given...
Check out my full thread and progress here.

http://www.1970chargerregistry.com/mboard/index.php?topic=119.0

spoolinhard

floor panels go goodmark and save yourself some cash. I used full quarters on my challenger from AMD and the fitment was less than desirable. I think that the goodmarks are worse in the quarter department. I also used an AMD rear valance, the fitment makes me wish that I had spent my cash on a used original piece.

sardillim

you will have fitment issues with either,  to put it in perspective these panels are just something to put plastic over.  The amd's just get you a little closer

Patronus

I have never used Goodmark.
I have never received an AMD panel undamaged.
'73 Cuda 340 5spd RMS
'69 Charger 383 "Luci"
'08 CRF 450r
'12.5 450SX FE

Mike DC

       
You can find mint 45yo original panels for these cars and they will fit like shit too.  These were not precision made cars in the first place.
     

Half the reason AMD wins in my book is simply the metal quality.  AMD's stuff feels like the original stuff, most of the others don't.  It's more than just the thickness, it's also the alloy content of the steel. 
   

elitecustombody

Quote from: Patronus on April 03, 2014, 01:36:43 PM
I have never used Goodmark.
I have never received an AMD panel undamaged.

Stop buying damaged rejects on Ebay from tamraz :slap:


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Stefan

elitecustombody

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on April 04, 2014, 12:40:18 AM
       
You can find mint 45yo original panels for these cars and they will fit like shit too.  These were not precision made cars in the first place.
     

Half the reason AMD wins in my book is simply the metal quality.  AMD's stuff feels like the original stuff, most of the others don't.  It's more than just the thickness, it's also the alloy content of the steel. 

   

QFT   :cheers:


AMD-Auto Metal Direct  Distributor, email me for all your shetmetal needs

Stefan

charge69

When restoring my Charger, I used AMD for any and all panels I needed. The only things not damaged beyond repair for me was the trunk lid the drivers side drip-rail (luckily, it was near perfect with the partial vin stamped in it) and the rear valence. Everything else from the rear quarters back was replaced. My outer wheel wells were only damaged for about the outward first 3" or so and I bought new ones and my buddy cut the new and old ones with a plasma cutter and welded the new ones back in place. Grinded smooth, primered and painted and you would never know.

We used AMD's 1-piece trunk floor and it fit very nicely. The end caps are all that took major fitting. Everything else took just minor fitting to work!  I do not know how well Goodmark panels and pieces are as I did not use any of them but, AMD panels and quarters worked out well for me!






Patronus

Quote from: elitecustombody on April 17, 2014, 04:22:30 PM
Quote from: Patronus on April 03, 2014, 01:36:43 PM
I have never used Goodmark.
I have never received an AMD panel undamaged.

Stop buying damaged rejects on Ebay from tamraz :slap:

The were from a reputable source.  :slap:
Roseville. And those guys did everything they could to get me a decent part.
Then even that part was folded over itself.
What Im really amazed at is for someone (AMD) to take so much time to get a part right.. Really, year after year adjusting the stamping dies and all.. and then, let some chachi slam-dunk-delivery it.
I've received damaged metal from more than 2 suppliers. Not factory blems either. Full-on crunched.
Now listen close. Im not dissing AMD. I hope to be able to use their product for years. What Im saying is the shit shows up bent.
:slap:
'73 Cuda 340 5spd RMS
'69 Charger 383 "Luci"
'08 CRF 450r
'12.5 450SX FE

charge69

Patronus, I'm not sure what part of the states or Canada you are from but, what kind of tree monkeys do you have working for those shipping companies?

I ordered all my AMD metal from a local dealer and reputable restoration shop and not one piece of mine (basically, most of the rear of the Charger) was delivered damaged! Every piece was well-crated and delivered undamaged. I bought from him as he gave me a little discount over the catalogue prices AMD sold it for at the time and, in case there was some shipping damage, HE would deal with it, not me. It included both rear quarters, one-piece floor the rear taillight housing assembly, the Dutchman panel and probably a few other pieces I am forgetting about.  It was about 5K in metal

I bought a front quarter (driver's side) from them and was able to repair satisfactorily the original one and, after a year, my dealer still took the AMD panel back for full reimbursement. Yes, it was still undamaged by me!

There was a few fitment issues (very minor as expected) but absolutely no shipping damage to deal with and we opened the crates at the shop before taking delivery and found every one of them to be undamaged. I did not return any for damage and, as far as I know, neither has he!

Patronus

Hey, could be... I'm in CO.
They probably got high and forgot they were carrying something?
I will always buy AMD.
And I will always be pleasantly surprised when it shows up like it did when if left Georga.
It just never has..
'73 Cuda 340 5spd RMS
'69 Charger 383 "Luci"
'08 CRF 450r
'12.5 450SX FE

charge69

Ha!  Might be that old "Rocky Mountain High" working against you!

Sorry you had such a bad experience with shipping and I hope it has subsided.  AMD, while certainly not perfect, seems to sell the best repro sheet metal out there right now and it would be VERY disappointing for it to get bent up in shipping!