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Redneck Road Rage Video

Started by TUFCAT, March 28, 2014, 08:04:32 PM

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ECS

Quote from: stripedelete on March 29, 2014, 11:00:03 PM
I also don't remember studying my "right to drive in the passing lane"(wtf?) in my civics class.   However, I do remember being raised with etiquette.   Sorry, about your parents not doing their job.   Now get your rude ass over.

I'll drive in any lane I want as long as I'm doing the speed limit.  If someone wants to break the law, they can go around me and do as they please.  If they don't like that I didn't move as they expected they can follow me to where ever I am going, get out of the car and I'll beat their head off their shoulders.  :2thumbs:
TIME WILL INEVITABLY UNCOVER DISHONESTY AND LIES!

ECS

TIME WILL INEVITABLY UNCOVER DISHONESTY AND LIES!

stripedelete

Quote from: stripedelete on March 29, 2014, 11:00:03 PM

......................  There is absolutely no legitimate, mature, reasonable, argument for cruising in the left lane with no regard for its impact on other drivers.  Just grow up!

ECS

Quote from: stripedelete on March 29, 2014, 11:56:31 PM
......................  There is absolutely no legitimate, mature, reasonable, argument for cruising in the left lane with no regard for its impact on other drivers.  Just grow up!

A "mature, reasonable" driver wouldn't need to pass in the "left lane" if the car in front of them was already doing the speed limit.  Hopefully when these people "grow up" they won't feel they have to break the law to feed their "self esteem".  Just like the guy in the video, some people get more than they bargained for!  
TIME WILL INEVITABLY UNCOVER DISHONESTY AND LIES!


ECS

Quote from: stripedelete on March 30, 2014, 12:07:32 AM
..... move your ENTITLED ass over.

I'd much rather have someone try to move it for me!
TIME WILL INEVITABLY UNCOVER DISHONESTY AND LIES!

stripedelete

Please reference:

Quote from: stripedelete on March 29, 2014, 11:00:03 PM


....... being raised with etiquette.   ........parents not doing their job.   ......... rude ......

.......mature, reasonable, .........
........... Grow up!

ECS

"raised with etiquette"?  :scratchchin:

Quote from: stripedelete on March 29, 2014, 11:00:03 PM
....get the hell over to the right.......(wtf?).......get your rude ass over........move your ENTITLED ass over........the little $&@!.......growing number of morons.......

If you display "etiquette", I'm happy to stay just the way I am!  :lol:   :2thumbs:  
TIME WILL INEVITABLY UNCOVER DISHONESTY AND LIES!

polywideblock

I see the "inside lane is for passing only " being  made a law all over the place  just a matter of time  :rofl:


  and 71 GA4  383 magnum  SE

Tilar

Quote from: ECS on March 29, 2014, 05:00:13 PM
Quote from: Tilar on March 29, 2014, 04:56:18 PM
In other words even if the speed limit is 55 and you have traffic moving in the fast lane at 60 which is a safe rate and under most states limit of 7 MPH over the posted limit....

Please show me one DMV publication where it states that there is an allowed MPH "grace overage" that exceeds the posted limit.

I didn't see where anyone mentioned a "grace period" so I will rephrase what you have quoted above since it was probably confusing:

"In other words even if the speed limit is 55 and you have traffic moving in the fast lane at 60 which is a safe rate and all the state troopers that I know personally have a limit of 7 MPH over the posted limit, she could get a ticket for impeding traffic."  And YES even though she is running the speed limit she could get a ticket for impeding traffic because she is blocking the "normal and reasonable" flow of traffic even if they are running a little over the speed limit.

One of the troopers I know mentioned once that he'll let 10 over go as long as they appear to be driving safe but and he generally runs the interstate. The local police that I know will allow 5 over within the city limits.

Maybe Mpdlawdog could chime in and give us a little insight to what he practices, and how he would interpret it.

Dave  

God must love stupid people; He made so many.



Mike DC

    
The speed limits have nothing to do with safety.  

Setting the limits 10 mph below what normal people drive and punishing violators with a small fine?  That is not keeping the roads safe, it's just collecting taxes.  

TUFCAT

Quote from: ECS on March 29, 2014, 11:37:08 PM


I'll drive in any lane I want as long as I'm doing the speed limit.  If someone wants to break the law, they can go around me and do as they please.  If they don't like that I didn't move as they expected they can follow me to where ever I am going, get out of the car and I'll beat their head off their shoulders.  :2thumbs:


:eek2:

XH29N0G

Glad I learned to drive back in the day.

I remember the drivers ed teacher saying "don't worry you got him beat" when we come up to a  long line of maybe 50 cars going the other way on a two lane road.  I was white knuckled and swerving to the shoulder every time those headlights would pass. 

Can't imagine what would happen today. 

Now I get passed on the right even before the car I passed shows up in my side mirror.  I am not a slowpoke, but do not drive in the far left unless passing the other three lanes.  Way I see it, the speed differential is high, 20-30 mph above the limit is not uncommon and the groups of bikes to run over 100. 
Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

dyslexic teddybear

Quote from: ECS on March 29, 2014, 11:37:08 PM
Quote from: stripedelete on March 29, 2014, 11:00:03 PM
I also don't remember studying my "right to drive in the passing lane"(wtf?) in my civics class.   However, I do remember being raised with etiquette.   Sorry, about your parents not doing their job.   Now get your rude ass over.






get out of the car and I'll beat their head off their shoulders.  :2thumbs:



Interesting.

Just a bit of wise friendly advice.......

"No matter how bad a** you think you are.....there's is ALWAYS someone out there that is bigger/faster/better trained.......and sometimes just plain lucky."

Above from my TKD instructor. Personally, I would add "armed" to that.

Tilar

Quote from: dyslexic teddybear on March 30, 2014, 08:50:43 AM
Above from my TKD instructor. Personally, I would add "armed" to that.

And there are getting to be a whole lot more of the "armed" around than there was just 5 years ago.
Dave  

God must love stupid people; He made so many.



Road Dog

They can put this on your tombstone " Hey, but I had the right of way" :lol:
If your wheels ain't spinn'n you ain't got no traction.

Steve P.

All this speculation by so many is insane. As far as I can tell from the video, which as far as I can tell is all the information we have, we don't know the reason it started. Don't know what State they were in. Don't know what the speed limit was. Don't know if she was on a highway with laws against driving in the left lane and so on. Yet many here seem to think they do know these answers and are giving their own opinions one way or the other. Throwing what you see a lot or the roads you normally drive on or your area are probably not where this took place or someone would have noticed the road.

Someone mentioned Florida laws on cell phones. Here in Florida it is illegal to (TEXT) while driving. It is not illegal to talk on the cell or use it for GPS or video. Also the laws are different for county and city roads verses highways. Only on highways is it illegal to drive for miles in the left lane. The exception is only during high traffic times or while escaping an area due to weather conditions. (That is not how it is written exactly, but you get the idea). So if she were in Florida she did nothing wrong that I can tell.  These are the same rules of the road, by law, in New York. Hell, in Massachusetts they drive in both breakdown lanes during high traffic hours completely legally!!  Or at least they did back in the 80's when I was in the shipyards in East Boston!! I wanted to weld guardrails all around my car there!!!  :o

Also it is what each cop feels is safe or maybe their own feeling of tolerance to let people drive over the marked speed limit. Our daughter got her first ticket on the boulevard that runs through the middle of our old subdivision for 31 MPH in a 30 zone. We went to court and fought the ticket as she was driving an older car with a non digital dash and we all know that tire size and change will make a difference. The judge said: The law is 30 MPH. It is marked in plain sight 30 MPH and the policemen clocked your daughter at 31 MPH. That is over the speed limit and she is thereby  found guilty of speeding. Is this unusual? VERY!!!! That cop knew she was driving a nice looking classic and figured he would mess with her. Maybe teach her a lesson. I don't know. However I do know it is the law and that is what matters.

I do not condone driving while taking video as she was. But we do not know that she didn't decide to due to something he had already done. We do not know any of that story. But I also don't believe she got out her cell and just started the video for the sake of something to do either. Who would and why? I believe that someone would have to do something to prompt me to take those steps.  So I can't find any fact that says she did anything wrong or against the law or anything that would make me feel she was in any way at fault or illegal. There are just no facts against her. And to be quite honest, I laughed when I saw his truck crash over the sign on the other side of the road going back end first myself!! All I could see in the video was someone thinking that it was his way or the highway and I think people who drive that aggressively will probably at some point get someone else hurt. As you saw, he cut her off pretty damned closely and could have hurt her. FOR WHAT??  

It seams as though I have been asking that question an awful lot lately. FOR WHAT?? What was the upshot?  :shruggy:
Steve P.
Holiday, Florida

Steve P.

Quote from: Road Dog on March 30, 2014, 11:23:07 AM
They can put this on your tombstone " Hey, but I had the right of way" :lol:

It seams to me that it was closer to going on HIS tombstone...  :scratchchin:
Steve P.
Holiday, Florida

Road Dog

He thought he was right and she thought she was right. It could have turned out real bad for either or both and for what?     
If your wheels ain't spinn'n you ain't got no traction.

Aero426

Quote from: Road Dog on March 30, 2014, 12:21:20 PM
He thought he was right and she thought she was right. It could have turned out real bad for either or both and for what?    

One hundred percent correct.  

Both felt they were "entitled" to the space.    The passive aggressive "just go around me" mentality is a problem on the highway as much as people going too fast.     Both are inconsiderate.


dyslexic teddybear

Quote from: Steve P. on March 30, 2014, 11:25:39 AM
All this speculation by so many is insane. As far as I can tell from the video, which as far as I can tell is all the information we have, we don't know the reason it started. Don't know what State they were in. Don't know what the speed limit was. Don't know if she was on a highway with laws against driving in the left lane and so on. Yet many here seem to think they do know these answers and are giving their own opinions one way or the other. Throwing what you see a lot or the roads you normally drive on or your area are probably not where this took place or someone would have noticed the road.

Someone mentioned Florida laws on cell phones. Here in Florida it is illegal to (TEXT) while driving. It is not illegal to talk on the cell or use it for GPS or video. Also the laws are different for county and city roads verses highways. Only on highways is it illegal to drive for miles in the left lane. The exception is only during high traffic times or while escaping an area due to weather conditions. (That is not how it is written exactly, but you get the idea). So if she were in Florida she did nothing wrong that I can tell.  These are the same rules of the road, by law, in New York. Hell, in Massachusetts they drive in both breakdown lanes during high traffic hours completely legally!!  Or at least they did back in the 80's when I was in the shipyards in East Boston!! I wanted to weld guardrails all around my car there!!!  :o

Also it is what each cop feels is safe or maybe their own feeling of tolerance to let people drive over the marked speed limit. Our daughter got her first ticket on the boulevard that runs through the middle of our old subdivision for 31 MPH in a 30 zone. We went to court and fought the ticket as she was driving an older car with a non digital dash and we all know that tire size and change will make a difference. The judge said: The law is 30 MPH. It is marked in plain sight 30 MPH and the policemen clocked your daughter at 31 MPH. That is over the speed limit and she is thereby  found guilty of speeding. Is this unusual? VERY!!!! That cop knew she was driving a nice looking classic and figured he would mess with her. Maybe teach her a lesson. I don't know. However I do know it is the law and that is what matters.

I do not condone driving while taking video as she was. But we do not know that she didn't decide to due to something he had already done. We do not know any of that story. But I also don't believe she got out her cell and just started the video for the sake of something to do either. Who would and why? I believe that someone would have to do something to prompt me to take those steps.  So I can't find any fact that says she did anything wrong or against the law or anything that would make me feel she was in any way at fault or illegal. There are just no facts against her. And to be quite honest, I laughed when I saw his truck crash over the sign on the other side of the road going back end first myself!! All I could see in the video was someone thinking that it was his way or the highway and I think people who drive that aggressively will probably at some point get someone else hurt. As you saw, he cut her off pretty damned closely and could have hurt her. FOR WHAT??  

It seams as though I have been asking that question an awful lot lately. FOR WHAT?? What was the upshot?  :shruggy:


Totally agree.

For what?

Does anyone seriously think, driving in any manner, will......"teach" another driver?

Seriously?


Sublime/Sixpack

I watched the video a few times, then did a search of the incident to gain as much insight as I reasonably could, and according to several news sources the guy in the Ford was arrested by the police, and the woman was not. Apparently the police didn't feel that she did anything wrong.

Dislike the woman all you want for the sound of her voice, the fact that she videoed what took place, and even laughed at his losing control of his vehicle, but it's not like this took place on a freeway or open rural highway.

Based on what I gathered it was a state road, the surface was wet, the speed limit was 55 mph, (she was doing right around 59 mph and overtaking vehicles that were in the right lane). And at least one source stated she told them that she was planning to make a left turn down the road a half mile or so. If that was true, then she was in the correct lane to be able to pull over into the left turn lane, (there were left and right turn lanes on this street).

I'm all for pulling to the right for someone that wants to drive faster than I'm traveling, but everything must be taken into consideration. One thing is for sure, getting aggressive by riding up on someone's tail isn't the way to get someone to move over for you especially if the driver is within the law and driving safely.

Based on what I saw on the video and read from the news clips this guy was driving like a butthead and paid for it. Hopefully he learned something from the experience.
And I'll say it again, thankfully no innocent bystanders or drivers were injured by his actions.


1970 Sublime R/T, 440 Six Pack, Four speed, Super Track Pak

Aero426

Quote from: dyslexic teddybear on March 30, 2014, 12:44:45 PM
Does anyone seriously think, driving in any manner, will......"teach" another driver?


It never works.  

ECS

Quote from: dyslexic teddybear on March 30, 2014, 08:50:43 AM
"No matter how bad a** you think you are.....there's is ALWAYS someone out there that is bigger/faster/better trained......."

I'm fully aware of that fact but I don't live in fear of anyone or any situation.  Only cowards choose their battles.  The guy in the truck was a coward.  He saw that it was a  Woman when he passed her, saw that she was videoing him and he decided to act like a tough guy with her.  He should have laughed when he saw it was a Woman and drove on by. 

I'm the exact opposite.  If a Woman "cuts me off" I don't care in the least.  If a guy does it.......different story!  Right, wrong or indifferent, that's just the way I'm wired.  :2thumbs:
TIME WILL INEVITABLY UNCOVER DISHONESTY AND LIES!

ECS

Quote from: Steve P. on March 30, 2014, 11:43:37 AM
It seams to me that it was closer to going on HIS tombstone...  :scratchchin:

Indeed!  :2thumbs:  :smilielol:  :smilielol:  :2thumbs:
TIME WILL INEVITABLY UNCOVER DISHONESTY AND LIES!