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Redneck Road Rage Video

Started by TUFCAT, March 28, 2014, 08:04:32 PM

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ECS

Quote from: Steve P. on March 28, 2014, 11:17:52 PM
That said, I see where she did nothing wrong. 

Agreed!  There is no "fast" lane.  The speed limit is the speed limit and she has the right to travel in any lane as long as she is not driving under the posted limit and impeding traffic.  It's comical how some here are trying to interject hypotheticals about how the Woman "might have returned the finger" and could have caused the other guy additional grief.  The Driver of the Truck is responsible for his erratic driving and the reaction of the Woman AFTER he wrecks did nothing to alter the outcome.  He ended up in that ditch because he wanted revenge on her for not driving the way he expected her to drive.
TIME WILL INEVITABLY UNCOVER DISHONESTY AND LIES!

TUFCAT

Quote from: ECS on March 29, 2014, 12:58:32 PM

Agreed!  There is no "fast" lane.  The speed limit is the speed limit and she has the right to travel in any lane as long as she is not driving under the posted limit and impeding traffic. It's comical how some here are trying to interject hypotheticals about how the Woman "might have returned the finger" and could have caused the other guy additional grief.   The Driver of the Truck is responsible for his erratic driving and the reaction of the Woman AFTER he wrecks did nothing to alter the outcome.  He ended up in that ditch because he wanted revenge on her for not driving the way he expected her to drive.


Did you watch the same video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XqZoaWKv2k

He passed her the first time - without flipping the bird  (See 1:06 mark on video).

My "hypothetical" is that something happened after that point. I can see he looked back at her after passing. Then the pickup driver appears to have slowed down, and flipped her off.

EDIT: I watch the video again.... after the truck passes the lady at 1:06 she speeds up and passes him at the 1:11 mark....so much for the slow poke safety minded driver theory.  There's still no middle finger from the truck.  He caught up to her at 1:18 and gave the finger.  She might have given him a reason....like an obscene gesture on her part "hypothetically"?  After all she was filming it, and probably looking for the most action/excitement.  


ECS

Quote from: TUFCAT on March 29, 2014, 01:00:55 PM
Then the pickup driver appears to have slowed down, and flipped her off.

That is exactly what I saw!  He had passed her, was no longer being "blocked" by her, then decided to come back and escalate the confrontation.  He is responsible for his actions and could have continued to move on past her.  The video doesn't show that she did anything to provoke him further.  Filming with one hand and driving with the other makes it hard to "flip" someone off.  He chose to come back and take revenge.  It backfired on him.
TIME WILL INEVITABLY UNCOVER DISHONESTY AND LIES!

TUFCAT

Quote from: ECS on March 29, 2014, 01:31:44 PM

That is exactly what I saw!  He had passed her, was no longer being "blocked" by her, then decided to come back and escalate the confrontation.  He is responsible for his actions and could have continued to move on past her.  The video doesn't show that she did anything to provoke him further.  He chose to come back and take revenge.  It backfired on him.


:popcrn:   I'm not in the mood to argue with you.

Steve P.

I agree with ECS 100%. 

Many here are simply not looking at the given facts. Lots of people who want to spread the blame, but you do not have the facts for this. You are speculating. I would not want all of those people on my jury..

What I saw was the guy drive by her on the right. Then slow down so he could come up next to her and flip her off. using logic I think he probably saw that she was recording him and he felt he would go back and flip her off.. Yes, I am speculating now, but only because we know she had control of her vehicle and also the camera.

In the end I cannot see anything she did wrong or illegal. So just because she laughed at a guy who wrecked due to his own stupidity does not make her a bad person.

Had this been your wife or daughter what would you say?
Her collecting video on this is simply happening more and more. There is a car audio place here that now installs in car camera's and runs from the time you start your car. The commercial had a woman driving and pulled over by a cop with a very bad attitude. It was all real. The ad didn't last long, but it sure made me think of a few times I wish I had that system set up in my vehicle..
Steve P.
Holiday, Florida

TUFCAT

Quote from: Steve P. on March 29, 2014, 01:53:53 PM
I agree with ECS 100%.  

Many here are simply not looking at the given facts. Lots of people who want to spread the blame, but you do not have the facts for this. You are speculating. I would not want all of those people on my jury..

What I saw was the guy drive by her on the right. Then slow down so he could come up next to her and flip her off. using logic I think he probably saw that she was recording him and he felt he would go back and flip her off.. Yes, I am speculating now, but only because we know she had control of her vehicle and also the camera.

In the end I cannot see anything she did wrong or illegal. So just because she laughed at a guy who wrecked due to his own stupidity does not make her a bad person.

Had this been your wife or daughter what would you say?

Her collecting video on this is simply happening more and more. There is a car audio place here that now installs in car camera's and runs from the time you start your car. The commercial had a woman driving and pulled over by a cop with a very bad attitude. It was all real. The ad didn't last long, but it sure made me think of a few times I wish I had that system set up in my vehicle..

Steve, they're both idiots.

No one should pass someone on the right and swerve back into the left lane.  Plain and simple.

Its also common courtesy as a driver not to loiter in the fast lane.  I don't know if its legal in Florida to use cell phones while driving, but I'm pretty sure its against the law to tailgate. Its obvious she was using her phone while driving (rather than a car mounted camera) because of the many angles, and the fact she had the phone outside the car window. You can see the ground and a small side profile of the car at the end.

People might think its okay for people to loiter in the left lane for miles because its their "right" to do so.  In my opinion she had plenty time to move over and let him pass but she wanted to play "speed monitor".  This causes ROAD RAGE.

It also looks like she was baiting him, and getting her jollies by being a self-appointed road nanny.  Just move the heck over!  I'd be willing to bet she had plenty of time (prior to taking her phone out) to do just that!  She could have wrecked herself because she was clearly paying more attention to the video recording than the road...

TUFCAT

Quote from: Steve P. on March 29, 2014, 01:53:53 PM

Had this been your wife or daughter what would you say?


I'd tell her to put the phone down, move the heck over, and drive with more respect.  :Twocents: :Twocents:

Mike DC

 
Being a dangerous aggressive jerk rates worse in my mind than videotaping one.    

I've come across a lot more guys in big trucks driving dangerously than women in vans videotaping other drivers for nothing. 

 

Road Dog

You can tell how good of a driver you are by the number of times you are road raged on. I'm always courteous to my fellow drivers on the road and don't get road raged on. If they are raging on you, you need to get your act together.
If your wheels ain't spinn'n you ain't got no traction.

ECS

Quote from: TUFCAT on March 29, 2014, 03:42:22 PM
Its also common courtesy as a driver not to loiter in the fast lane.

There is no "fast lane".  The speed limit applies to every lane and she has the right to drive in any of those lanes as long as she is not driving under the speed limit.  It becomes the "fast lane" when people violate the law and exceed the posted speed limit.  No vehicle is required to move over to accommodate those who choose to speed and break the the law.
TIME WILL INEVITABLY UNCOVER DISHONESTY AND LIES!

JB400

Quote from: ECS on March 29, 2014, 04:30:44 PM
Quote from: TUFCAT on March 29, 2014, 03:42:22 PM
Its also common courtesy as a driver not to loiter in the fast lane.

There is no "fast lane".  The speed limit applies to every lane and she has the right to drive in any of those lanes as long as she is not driving under the speed limit.  It becomes the "fast lane" when people violate the law and exceed the posted speed limit.  No vehicle is required to move over to accommodate those who choose to speed and break the the law.
You obviously missed this topic a couple weeks ago.

TUFCAT

deleted...no need to cite Michigan, or any state law for that matter

Daytona R/T SE

There is no excuse for tailgating.

Ever.

Tilar

Quote from: ECS on March 29, 2014, 04:30:44 PM
Quote from: TUFCAT on March 29, 2014, 03:42:22 PM
Its also common courtesy as a driver not to loiter in the fast lane.

There is no "fast lane".  The speed limit applies to every lane and she has the right to drive in any of those lanes as long as she is not driving under the speed limit.

That is not exactly true.  The typical verbiage in many states regarding impeding traffic violations "instruct that drivers should not drive one or more vehicles at a slow enough speed to block the "normal and reasonable" flow of traffic."  In other words even if the speed limit is 55 and you have traffic moving in the fast lane at 60 which is a safe rate and under most states limit of 7 MPH over the posted limit, she could get a ticket for impeding traffic. Would it stick? Probably not but she would have to fight it.
Dave  

God must love stupid people; He made so many.



ECS

Quote from: JB400 on March 29, 2014, 04:37:13 PM
You obviously missed this topic a couple weeks ago.

I probably did.  It's really easy to settle this "fast lane" question though.  You have two lanes running in the same direction.  The posted speed limit is 55 MPH.  Which of those two lanes are you allowed to exceed the 55 MPH speed limit?  I understand that slower traffic is suppose to stay in the right lane and the inside lane is used to pass the slower moving traffic.  If you are doing 55 MPH in the inside lane, there should be no vehicle (legally) in need of passing you.
TIME WILL INEVITABLY UNCOVER DISHONESTY AND LIES!

ECS

Quote from: Tilar on March 29, 2014, 04:56:18 PM
In other words even if the speed limit is 55 and you have traffic moving in the fast lane at 60 which is a safe rate and under most states limit of 7 MPH over the posted limit....

Please show me one DMV publication where it states that there is an allowed MPH "grace overage" that exceeds the posted limit.
TIME WILL INEVITABLY UNCOVER DISHONESTY AND LIES!

XH29N0G

I thought the over limit range was an old thing related to uncertainty in clocking drivers with radar guns and also to let the uncertainty in speedos factor in, though I suppose it may have changed. :shruggy:

Actually, I stand corrected.  Just looked up the PA law and saw this wording "Motorists driving in an active work zone may be cited for exceeding the speed limit by one mile – speed tolerances are eliminated."  that implies tolerance rather than a threshold. 

Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

Sublime/Sixpack

Who knows what prompted the female driver to shoot video of the guy in the Ford pickup, but it's obvious the guy has issues, has no class, and is an aggressive coward. And he paid for it. Thankfully no innocent bystanders or drivers were injured or killed because of his stupidity.  :Twocents:
1970 Sublime R/T, 440 Six Pack, Four speed, Super Track Pak

TUFCAT

Quote from: Sublime/Sixpack on March 29, 2014, 05:55:49 PM
Who knows what prompted the female driver to shoot video of the guy in the Ford pickup, but it's obvious the guy has issues, has no class, and is an aggressive coward. And he paid for it. Thankfully no innocent bystanders or drivers were injured or killed because of his stupidity.  :Twocents:


The both have issues.  :Twocents: :Twocents:

XH29N0G

Tufcat,  I just noticed that someone is awfully close to the car the cat is driving in your avatar.  How fast is that cat?   :smilielol:
Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

TUFCAT

Quote from: XH29N0G on March 29, 2014, 06:19:02 PM
Tufcat,  I just noticed that someone is awfully close to the car the cat is driving in your avatar.  How fast is that cat?   :smilielol:


LOL!  He's probably doing 80 ;)   That car just got behind him.  Luckily, "avatar cat" is smart enough to check his mirrors and move to the right when someone wants to go faster. :D

No middle paws extended either!  :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:

polywideblock

over here they'd both be braking the law
her twice   , A.  its against the law to use a mobile phone while driving and B. keep left unless overtaking (heavy fines apply ) 
him for tailgating, but aggravation at some self appointed lane monitor is   listed as the cause of a good percentage of road rage incidents   :yesnod: 
   its not you job or duty to keep the traffic at what you consider the "posted speed" ! that's what cops are for ,  just pass and get over its really simple  :brickwall:   


  and 71 GA4  383 magnum  SE

cudaken


To me the bottom lines if he was not driving like a dick, he would not have dicked up his truck up!  :smilielol:

All most everyday when I am on the interstate I will have someone tailgate me. I will be in the left lane doing the speed limit or a little over passing cars on the right that are going slower. Some person like the redneck will get on my ass. 1/2 the time after I have passed the slower cars, the tailgater will pass me on the right before I have room to change over to the right lane.  :shruggy:

Far as her laughing, I would have been LOL my self!  :D His Lean Mean Redneck Machine did not hit a Brick wall, other car, tree or rolled over, and is clearly a survivable accident.  If it had been me, and he had rolled the truck, more than likely I would have been one of the first to try to help. If he was OK, I would also be telling him what a Dumb F*&k he was!

Cuda Ken
I am back

stripedelete

I just don't remember a "fast lane" in my drivers ed class.  However, I do remember a PASSING LANE.  So, get the hell over to the right.

I also don't remember studying my "right to drive in the passing lane"(wtf?) in my civics class.   However, I do remember being raised with etiquette.   Sorry, about your parents not doing their job.   Now get your rude ass over.

I know being passed by me and 65 other cars that have been following you for 35 minutes may damage your delicate SELF ESTEEM.  But, move your ENTITLED ass over.

I have no problem with the one finger wave in this case.  But, the pickup should have moved on regardless of what the little $&@!  probably did off camera. 

I do have a problem with having to legislate common courtesy in order to get this growing number of morons over to the right.  There is absolutely no legitimate, mature, reasonable, argument for cruising in the left lane with no regard for its impact on other drivers.  Just grow up!

TUFCAT

Quote from: stripedelete on March 29, 2014, 11:00:03 PM
I just don't remember a "fast lane" in my drivers ed class.  However, I do remember a PASSING LANE.  So, get the hell over to the right.

I also don't remember studying my "right to drive in the passing lane"(wtf?) in my civics class.   However, I do remember being raised with etiquette.   Sorry, about your parents not doing their job.   Now get your rude ass over.

I know being passed by me and 65 other cars that have been following you for 35 minutes may damage your delicate SELF ESTEEM.  But, move your ENTITLED ass over.

I have no problem with the one finger wave in this case.  But, the pickup should have moved on regardless of what the little $&@!  probably did off camera.  

I do have a problem with having to legislate common courtesy in order to get this growing number of morons over to the right.  There is absolutely no legitimate, mature, reasonable, argument for cruising in the left lane with no regard for its impact on other drivers.  Just grow up!

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