All cars getting rear-view cameras in 2018

[wingcar]

Sadly, another law added to the books because of people who are careless and fail to watch their kids properly.  Do I said harsh?  Well perhaps to some, but some parents just don't get it...parenting is a "full-time" job!  Here in Arizona each summer we have drownings in backyard pools because a child was left unattended or a back door was left open....the end result, a lost child.  And this is after all the warnings and ads that are sent out each year!

So in regards to the cameras, the question is why are child left unattended around a moving vehicle?   You need to watch your child at all times and know where they are...Yes easier said than done, but it is the responsibility of the parent to do just that.  Ok, I'll now step off my soap box and say that if these cameras save one little child, then it is worth the extra cost, as no one wants to see a little one lost through a stupid and avoidable accident.  I just hope that these cameras will not give some parents the false security that they don't have to use as much care while backing up....a tool is only as good as the user................     

All cars getting rear-view cameras
All vehicles sold in North America, weighing under 10,000 pounds will have backup cameras by mid-2018, according to regulations approved by the U.S. Department of Transportation today (March 31st). The rules were mandated by Congress in 2008, due to parents killing their children by backing up into them — presumably a result of the greater popularity of pickup trucks, SUVs, and crossovers, as well as cars designed with high trunks that slash rear visibility.

This type of accident was reported as being the largest killer of children in automobile collisions. The original regulations were finalized in 2010, but were delayed due to the costs involved.

[Dino]

I agree, if it saves a single child's life it's worth it. 

Now, how do I add one to the charger?   

[resq302]

I agree with the back up sensors for being able to alarm when a child runs behind a car.  I am kind of against the back up cameras being mandatory as I have a feeling it will make people more lazy and not aware of their surroundings.  My Dad has this option on his F150 truck and while it is helpful for hooking up the trailer, you get soo focused on the image that you pay no attention to the things that are out of view.  Don't get me wrong, it is a very useful tool as long as you still look around outside of the camera range.

[myk]

I agree, if it saves a single child's life it's worth it. 

Now, how do I add one to the charger?   

Lord knows I could use one, lol...

[Troy]

The agency said, in the end, the regulation will save 58 to 69 lives a year.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/03/31/297278420/feds-will-require-rear-view-cameras-on-vehicles-in-2018

I agree, if it saves a single child's life it's worth it. 

Now, how do I add one to the charger?   

I agree, if it saves a single child's life it's worth it. 

Now, how do I add one to the charger?   

Lord knows I could use one, lol...

Here's a snazzy one that has the monitor in the rear view mirror. No, it doesn't look stock but it's less noticeable that a 4" LCD stuck to your dash.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?gclid=CJKvtM_Mv70CFYsWMgod9hkA6A&Item=0FB-002T-00075&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-Rear+View+Systems-_-0FB-002T-00075&ef_id=UpU@BAAAAfxnDNiX:20140401152615:s

In this one the camera basically installs along the top of the license plate. Maybe the monitor could be hinged and hang under the dash?
http://rear-view-cameras-review.toptenreviews.com/pyle-backup-camera-review.html

Things like this do make cars more expensive. I believe I read that prices were up 16% across the board last year. In 2012 it was mandated that every vehicle have traction control. Considering that was about a $1,000 option prior to the law it may have only gotten slightly cheaper do to the increased production - but the whole price would have certainly be added to the car. The thing is, these mandates rarely say how well the technology has to work (the traction control in my car locks all wheels on ice and shuts itself off when the roads are wet). A rear view camera with poor resolution or a limited field of vision is false security. Imagine the lawsuits when a child gets killed even when a camera was in use because the child still couldn't be seen.

Troy

[ODZKing]

I'm still wondering how I made it through my childhood with out a bike helmet or knee and arm pads.
I don't think I have any g-g-g-g-g-glitches 

[Dino]

The agency said, in the end, the regulation will save 58 to 69 lives a year.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/03/31/297278420/feds-will-require-rear-view-cameras-on-vehicles-in-2018

I agree, if it saves a single child's life it's worth it. 

Now, how do I add one to the charger?   

I agree, if it saves a single child's life it's worth it. 

Now, how do I add one to the charger?   

Lord knows I could use one, lol...

Here's a snazzy one that has the monitor in the rear view mirror. No, it doesn't look stock but it's less noticeable that a 4" LCD stuck to your dash.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?gclid=CJKvtM_Mv70CFYsWMgod9hkA6A&Item=0FB-002T-00075&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-Rear+View+Systems-_-0FB-002T-00075&ef_id=UpU@BAAAAfxnDNiX:20140401152615:s

In this one the camera basically installs along the top of the license plate. Maybe the monitor could be hinged and hang under the dash?
http://rear-view-cameras-review.toptenreviews.com/pyle-backup-camera-review.html

Troy

Hey don't give me any ideas!  You know I feel compelled to add every gadget known to man to my car.  

[RoscoePColtrain]

Way too many "instruments" in cars these days.  What happened to being a responsible driver and parent (including looking out for any little ones in general).  What happened to learning how to drive, park, navigate your car given your surroundings?  What happens if you're renting a cube van, will they install more than one camera?

I see too much of relinquishing control for lazyness.

[Steve P.]

A few years ago there was a seriously crazy family living across from my side driveway. They let the kids run day in and day out. Sort of a nice thing as it reminded me of when I was a kid. Only this family didn't teach their kids anything about being careful or getting out of the street when cars were coming or getting out of the way and in sight of a driver. They had a daughter that was about 5, (I think). She was tiny. Never had a shirt or any type of shoes and looked like she had not been bathed ever. That little tiny girl caused more people to freak out than you can imagine! She was forever in the road and must have thought everyone could see her and would magically fly over her if she ran in front of them.

Her nutcase father had a Dodge 4x4 that he installed a back up alarm on. Some might think that was a good idea with a child like his daughter, but she just got use to the sound and continued to run behind him backing out all the time. Another neighbor, (has to be about 70 years old), stopped and told the guy he needed to teach his kids to get completely out of the road when cars are coming or moving. He agreed. So he yelled down the road to his 3 kids that were out and went along his way. The same night that little girl grabbed onto a bumper of a minivan stopped at the stop sign in front of my house. She was dragged until the driver heard her screaming. Only about 10-15 feet, but enough that it should have scared the crap out of her. Everyone heard this and ran out thinking it had to be her. Even with that scare she continued to stay and walk way too close to cars and trucks that were coming down the street.

About a month later the father ran over one of his kids bikes and drove a handlebar through a back tire. 

So yeah, parents need to teach their children better than all of this and leaving stuff behind vehicles. I think the cameras are a good idea, but don't think they should add a ton of money to the vehicle. Look how cheap cell phones with cameras are. Of course there is a bit more to it in a vehicle, but it is great for more than just kids. BAcking into parking spaces, backing up to a trailer and NOT having to get in and out 3-4 times and for people like me with a fused back. I cannot turn all the way around like I could before the fusion. I had already looked into the back up camera's a while ago. Even backed up a truck with one installed. I like it!

[wingcar]

I have a 32 foot Motorhome equipped with a backup camera and I use it all the time even while driving, just to keep tabs on those behind me.  It makes backing into parking spaces at RV parks much easier.   However, even with the camera I still get out and look around before I back all the way into my space.  I wouldn't own an RV without one equipped with a camera.  But, I learned from driving over the road for a year in a 52 foot semi truck that you need to use your mirrors and common sense.  (Don't get me started on the stupid things people do while driving around big trucks.... )
(The first motorhome I owned even had a built in speaker along with the camera...I guess that way you could hear the crashing sound as you backed into something.....)

[RallyeMike]

One more step toward the eventuality - we won't drive our cars - just ride.

[Indygenerallee]

Positive step in the right direction, It's not going to hurt anything, I live out in the country but I can imagine folks that live in the city with a lot of children in a neighborhood, I know I would never be able to live with myself if I ran over a child and with a child they can move like lightning in the blink of a eye!! (I should know I have four!  )

[Mike DC]

  
One of the kids next door to me growing up used to run in front of his parents' cars when they came home just to be goofy.  After they had accidentally hit him - twice - they finally punished him enough to make him stop doing it.  You can't fix stupid.    



I don't see traction control costing nearly $1000/car.  Most of the necessary hardware is already on the car for anti-lock brakes.    

You can buy aftermarket backup camera setups for as little as $100 retail.  I can't see that being a big expense for the factory either.


If they want fewer kids to get backed over, then they might wanna consider how difficult the modern safety-mandated headrests are making it to see anything out the back window.  Active headrests would be a better mandate than making the stationary ones even bigger & more intrusive every few years.

[Troy]

   
One of the kids next door to me growing up used to run in front of his parents' cars when they came home just to be goofy.  After they had accidentally hit him - twice - they finally punished him enough to make him stop doing it.  You can't fix stupid.     



I don't see traction control costing nearly $1000/car.  Most of the necessary hardware is already on the car for anti-lock brakes.   

You can buy aftermarket backup camera setups for as little as $100 retail.  I can't see that being a big expense for the factory either.


If they want fewer kids to get backed over, then they might wanna consider how difficult the modern safety-mandated headrests are making it to see anything out the back window.  Active headrests would be a better mandate than making the stationary ones even bigger & more intrusive every few years.

It may not cost the manufacturer that much but that's how much they charged. The OEM backup cameras are integrated into the car and there's typically an extra LCD somewhere (usually rear view mirror or radio). Those pieces aren't standard - they're usually several hundred dollars extra AND you have to buy a higher end model to even get them. Car companies aren't going to include stuff for free that they could have sold for a couple thousand.

Troy

[67440chrg]

Nothing wrong with safety. If it saves a kid it all worth it. A man who lived behind me years back did not know his 3 year old boy fallowed him out early in the morning it was still dark he backed over him and killed him. I dont know if it would have saved him but it may have.

[Steve P.]

Obviously an accident, but how do you live with yourself after that? That's heart breaking.