Georgia law goes after left-lane lingerers

[dyslexic teddybear]

When C doesn't make in back into the right lane before E,D,orZ can't take it any longer and cause a crash then the whole road gets blocked for some time and driving to slow at that time will get you off from the fine for driving 5 MPH in a 70mph zone

I say screw the entire alphabet!  

If car C was a 4 door barracuda would you pass on the right just to check it out?

You'd need to see if it was the 1 of 1 ECS "Ethel Mermen" concepts wouldn't you?

[ws23rt]

When C doesn't make in back into the right lane before E,D,orZ can't take it any longer and cause a crash then the whole road gets blocked for some time and driving to slow at that time will get you off from the fine for driving 5 MPH in a 70mph zone

I say screw the entire alphabet!  

If car C was a 4 door barracuda would you pass on the right just to check it out?

You'd need to see if it was the 1 of 1 ECS "Ethel Mermen" concepts wouldn't you?

Kinda hard to check out the dash vin when passing on the right

[TUFCAT]

Its kinda hard to see the car when it doesn't exist!  

[ws23rt]

Its kind of hard to see the car when it doesn't exist! 

  So some of us may be driving in a dream?---It does happen---

[polywideblock]

so who saw Ethel merman picking her nose and changing the radio station  

                    with  no pics  as proof its only conjecture ,she might have just had an ichy nose  

[TUFCAT]

Ethel's 4-door 'cuda had plenty of room for her cat, the mail-boy, and all his friends.  

[JB400]

Driver C would see that he has plenty of room to get over to make his pass.  Therefore, he'd do so. Like I said, C has the cruise on.  I don't know very many people that's going to turn off the cruise just to pass someone.  On my illustration, V would actually catch up to C about the time he was pulling along side B.  

But, as C, I'd go ahead and pass A and B in the same time to save from cutting B off and getting bottled up behind A.  I'd have to shut the cruise off.  It's a hassle to have to push a button

Uh, so it's NOT a hassle for everyone in the left lane to shut off their cruise control?

If V catches C just as C catches B then C definitely should have waited. If C is almost to A when V catches up then that's the way it works out some days.

Troy

No, it's not a hassle for everyone else to hit the button.  If V can push the button to make their car go over 65, then they can just as easily push the button to slow down to 65.  That's the decision V has to make when they break the speed limit.  Had V been running 65, they wouldn't have had to slow down behind C.

If I was driver V and running 80 when I clearly know that the speed limit is 65, isn't that a sign that I believe the law doesn't pertain to me?  But, my actions in this scenario incriminates driver C, who is a law biding citizen, under this law.  Doesn't this sound like driver V (and W,  X, Y, Z) is asking for protection by the same law they choose to break?  I think these drivers need to respect the law before asking for protection under it.

It wasn't a dangerous move until V made it one.  It just caught up to V when they caught up to driver C.

[Ghoste]

What if car T were to show up right in the middle of it all because it is being driven by a Taliban suicide bomber and he could clear all of that traffic without the math test?    (my head hurts)

[Troy]

Driver C would see that he has plenty of room to get over to make his pass.  Therefore, he'd do so. Like I said, C has the cruise on.  I don't know very many people that's going to turn off the cruise just to pass someone.  On my illustration, V would actually catch up to C about the time he was pulling along side B. 

But, as C, I'd go ahead and pass A and B in the same time to save from cutting B off and getting bottled up behind A.  I'd have to shut the cruise off.  It's a hassle to have to push a button

Uh, so it's NOT a hassle for everyone in the left lane to shut off their cruise control?

If V catches C just as C catches B then C definitely should have waited. If C is almost to A when V catches up then that's the way it works out some days.

Troy

No, it's not a hassle for everyone else to hit the button.  If V can push the button to make their car go over 65, then they can just as easily push the button to slow down to 65.  That's the decision V has to make when they break the speed limit.  Had V been running 65, they wouldn't have had to slow down behind C.

If I was driver V and running 80 when I clearly know that the speed limit is 65, isn't that a sign that I believe the law doesn't pertain to me?  But, my actions in this scenario incriminates driver C, who is a law biding citizen, under this law.  Doesn't this sound like driver V (and W,  X, Y, Z) is asking for protection by the same law they choose to break?  I think these drivers need to respect the law before asking for protection under it.

It wasn't a dangerous move until V made it one.  It just caught up to V when they caught up to driver C.

Ok Cooter Jr. Regardless of whether anyone is breaking the law, it's rude (and generally stupid) to change lanes in front of a car going faster - especially much faster. If you have to slow down (by 3 whole mph) for approximately 8-10 seconds it's frustrating (but should be only a minor inconvenience) but you feel it's ok to make a whole group slow down by more than 10 mph for 30+ seconds because you feel they are in the wrong. If you read my post about VA's laws you'll see that you are breaking the law by not yielding so then your argument becomes one of who-is-breaking-the-law-worse. (And yeah, the laws are similar for almost all States but I used VA because that's where Cooter lives.) In the end, moving your finger twice (once to "coast" and once to "resume") costs you 35' on the highway and affects absolutely no one around you. Well, that's clearly unacceptable!!! Much better to affect as many other people as possible so you can do what makes you happy. There are lots of terms to describe this behavior...

Back to your original question, if I were a cop and I knew you changed lanes in front of a group of faster cars specifically because you felt you were more important than everyone else then, yes, you'd get a ticket! Fortunately, I'm not a cop and I doubt a real one would give you a ticket - even with this law - so you're safe.

Troy

[dyslexic teddybear]

Interesting theoretical debate.

Rhetorical question......

Why would anyone want to increase the chance of being rear-ended or involved in any collision at all.....?

JMO, but not my idea of a good way to prove a point. 

[Cooter]

Driver C would see that he has plenty of room to get over to make his pass.  Therefore, he'd do so. Like I said, C has the cruise on.  I don't know very many people that's going to turn off the cruise just to pass someone.  On my illustration, V would actually catch up to C about the time he was pulling along side B.  

But, as C, I'd go ahead and pass A and B in the same time to save from cutting B off and getting bottled up behind A.  I'd have to shut the cruise off.  It's a hassle to have to push a button

Uh, so it's NOT a hassle for everyone in the left lane to shut off their cruise control?

If V catches C just as C catches B then C definitely should have waited. If C is almost to A when V catches up then that's the way it works out some days.

Troy

No, it's not a hassle for everyone else to hit the button.  If V can push the button to make their car go over 65, then they can just as easily push the button to slow down to 65.  That's the decision V has to make when they break the speed limit.  Had V been running 65, they wouldn't have had to slow down behind C.

If I was driver V and running 80 when I clearly know that the speed limit is 65, isn't that a sign that I believe the law doesn't pertain to me?  But, my actions in this scenario incriminates driver C, who is a law biding citizen, under this law.  Doesn't this sound like driver V (and W,  X, Y, Z) is asking for protection by the same law they choose to break?  I think these drivers need to respect the law before asking for protection under it.

It wasn't a dangerous move until V made it one.  It just caught up to V when they caught up to driver C.

Thank You. Another one. Did you know CC Burns more fuel than reg. Driving when it comes to hills?

[Brass]

Did you know CC Burns more fuel than reg. Driving when it comes to hills?

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The only way I can imagine that is the case is if someone is a dead-foot driver. 

[Cooter]

Your foot is more likely to lose a few mph ( normal drivers only) where CC is gonna mash that pedal down to maintain speed.

[JB400]

Although Cooter and I are flying in the same direction, we're taking completely different flight paths.  Calling me any relation to Cooter deserves    The difference is intent.  Cooter made it sound like he was self appointed PO and manipulating the rules of the road to fit the rulebook. (Whether that was his intent )  Driver C (coincidence btw  ) in my situation, is just a normal law biding citizen following the rules of the road, that just happened to come upon slower traffic and pulled out to pass at a time when he'd end up bottle necking faster moving cars.  For driver V to complain about driver C in this situation is completely unfair.  Driver V should have thought about that when deciding to go over 65.

Where this law would shine at is in this scenario:  Speed limit 65

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All drivers are running the exact same speeds as they were in the last scenario, only difference being that driver C just stays in the left lane.  In this case, driver C deserves a ticket.      

[JB400]

Driver C would see that he has plenty of room to get over to make his pass.  Therefore, he'd do so. Like I said, C has the cruise on.  I don't know very many people that's going to turn off the cruise just to pass someone.  On my illustration, V would actually catch up to C about the time he was pulling along side B.  

But, as C, I'd go ahead and pass A and B in the same time to save from cutting B off and getting bottled up behind A.  I'd have to shut the cruise off.  It's a hassle to have to push a button

Uh, so it's NOT a hassle for everyone in the left lane to shut off their cruise control?

If V catches C just as C catches B then C definitely should have waited. If C is almost to A when V catches up then that's the way it works out some days.

Troy

No, it's not a hassle for everyone else to hit the button.  If V can push the button to make their car go over 65, then they can just as easily push the button to slow down to 65.  That's the decision V has to make when they break the speed limit.  Had V been running 65, they wouldn't have had to slow down behind C.

If I was driver V and running 80 when I clearly know that the speed limit is 65, isn't that a sign that I believe the law doesn't pertain to me?  But, my actions in this scenario incriminates driver C, who is a law biding citizen, under this law.  Doesn't this sound like driver V (and W,  X, Y, Z) is asking for protection by the same law they choose to break?  I think these drivers need to respect the law before asking for protection under it.

It wasn't a dangerous move until V made it one.  It just caught up to V when they caught up to driver C.

Thank You. Another one. Did you know CC Burns more fuel than reg. Driving when it comes to hills?

Yes, I am well aware of it.  Might be why I learned to drive with a steady foot.  On the hills, it's better to speed up a little bit going downhill and keep that throttle position until almost to the top, then let off a little bit.

[Cooter]

That's f*cked up JB. Just so you know.

[Troy]

Although Cooter and I are flying in the same direction, we're taking completely different flight paths.  Calling me any relation to Cooter deserves     The difference is intent.  Cooter made it sound like he was self appointed PO and manipulating the rules of the road to fit the rulebook. (Whether that was his intent )  Driver C (coincidence btw  ) in my situation, is just a normal law biding citizen following the rules of the road, that just happened to come upon slower traffic and pulled out to pass at a time when he'd end up bottle necking faster moving cars.  For driver V to complain about driver C in this situation is completely unfair.  Driver V should have thought about that when deciding to go over 65.

Where this law would shine at is in this scenario:  Speed limit 65

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All drivers are running the exact same speeds as they were in the last scenario, only difference being that driver C just stays in the left lane.  In this case, driver C deserves a ticket.     

In my first response I didn't say C should get a ticket. It was only after the explanation of it being too much hassle to shut of the cruise control that I determined driver C was a tool. The law isn't to ticket people who impede traffic for 30 seconds. If someone pops over in the left lane long enough to pass and then immediately merges back to the right at a reasonable speed for the flow of traffic then they haven't done anything illegal. Even if there are some cars backed up behind them. The law is for people who plant themselves in the left lane and stay there - sometimes for their entire commute!

When I was a little tyke the cops would sit in the parking lot next door running radar. I'd hang out and talk to them fairly often. It was pretty much a speed trap but, at that time, the cops wouldn't bother going after anyone unless they were at least 10 mph over. However, the people doing at or below the limit were "suspicious". Unless the driver is 80 years old and can't see over the wheel you do have to wonder...

It has been asked a couple times why there isn't a "minimum speed" on the highway. There is: 45 mph in a 55 mph zone (I believe that's nationally). That doesn't get higher even though the maximum limit has in many places - partially because large trucks still have a lower limit than cars. So, if the great minds who set the limits deemed that doing less than 45 in a 55 was "unsafe" then what makes people think 55 in a 70 is any safer? I guarantee that drivers doing 45 in a 55 are well aware of their surroundings and the impact they'll have on other drivers.

Troy

[JB400]

I believe it was originally intended to be a smart remark, just didn't use a smiley to identify it.

[Cooter]

I believe it was originally intended to be a smart remark, just didn't use a smiley to identify it.

[odcics2]

Ethel's 4-door 'cuda had plenty of room for her cat, the mail-boy, and all his friends.  

Just gotta toss this in -  The photo below was taken outside building 128 at Highland Park. Note the cement turntable for the car and the metal wall behind it.
THIS is where a mock up would be placed for viewing by the higher ups...  I had mentioned this in the now closed 4 door e body dream thread.
You can see where Bld. 128 was located relative to the "HQ" building in the middle - the tall K.T. Keller Building. 

(is this Ethel getting married?)

[Mr Bigblock]

We have had that law here in Ontario for 100 years now, $110 fine , It called  Misuse of the Kings Highway
Slow vehicles to travel on right side

147.  (1)  Any vehicle travelling upon a roadway at less than the normal speed of traffic at that time and place shall, where practicable, be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic or as close as practicable to the right hand curb or edge of the roadway. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 147 (1).

Exception

(2)  Subsection (1) does not apply to a driver of a,

(a) vehicle while overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction;

(b) vehicle while preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway; or

(c) road service vehicle. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 147 (2).

[Troy]

We have had that law here in Ontario for 100 years now, $110 fine , It called  Misuse of the Kings Highway
Slow vehicles to travel on right side

147.  (1)  Any vehicle travelling upon a roadway at less than the normal speed of traffic at that time and place shall, where practicable, be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic or as close as practicable to the right hand curb or edge of the roadway. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 147 (1).

Exception

(2)  Subsection (1) does not apply to a driver of a,

(a) vehicle while overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction;

(b) vehicle while preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway; or

(c) road service vehicle. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 147 (2).

And the world hasn't ended in bullets and blood? How's this possible?

One thing to note, "less than the normal speed" in Ontario would have to be about 35 mph...

Troy

[Cooter]

"Less than normal speed of traffic".
I assume "normal" means if traffic is doing 100 mph in a 70 zone, your doing your 75-80, you get a $110.00 fine.

That would be BS in my book.

[polywideblock]

if your in the outside lane ,no fine simple

aussie drivers have embraced the law as it keeps traffic flowing   

                                                                   

[HemiFish]

I like the new law. I just wish the cops were around to enforce it. I could write 5 tickets a day for left lane hogging. And that is just on my way back and forth to work....