Georgia law goes after left-lane lingerers

[Cooter]

The fact is, that's certainly your right to do so Ghoste.  

Thing is, I had it happen just today about an hour ago. Some guy actually had his left blinker on, doing 48 mph in a 60 zone.
had a line of traffic. I'm sitting in the truck thinkin "damn, Ghoste/Troy would certainly be loving this guy".
I simply moved to the right like Tuff said, and got around him. I pulled a Troy and looked over.
dude was texting. (Facepalm)

[TUFCAT]

"vehicular finger to the world"

[Troy]

Ok Cooter - before we go too far off into fantasy land dreaming up possible circumstances where your point is valid...

To recap:

• You say there's no basis in the idea of "fast lane" or "passing lane". New Georgia law will bring the downfall of man.
• I disagree.
• Your primary argument is that you don't like idiots (faster drivers) disrespecting you by expecting you to move to the right so they can pass.
• I show evidence of a common belief in the "passing lane" (even rules regarding such).
• You say evidence doesn't apply to you.
• Constructive discussion ends.

The whole debate hinges on the fact that nearly every driver in this country is taught and trained to use the right lane except when passing yet you are put out because they do what is expected of them while you "go against the grain". And they are at fault for your anger? Your argument against this law is based purely on the fact that you don't like the laws it was based on and your fear that people may do something you don't approve of which causes the world to degenerate into a Mad Max movie. This is where I should mention my fear of turtles wearing clown makeup while riding tiny unicycles. You know, just so things stay relevant.

I'm out! Someone mentioned something about a 4-door Ethel Merman reenactment...

Troy

[Cooter]

I have no fear. I have stated my feelings on "the majority"...I have stated my feelings on someone riding my ass and tearing up the highway because they have "the majority" on their side, so like you, they feel entitled to do. Problem shows up when they "expect" me to "get outta their way", as if they own the road. Again, for the handhelds. Just because everybody jumps off a cliff, do not expect me to follow.

Fantasy land would be 19 pages on some car that doesn't exist. Can't be proven with 'facts'.
I deal in reality. And the reality is........





there are alot like me, and worse out there. And in the words of Bill Murray, " that's a fact Jack"

[TUFCAT]

Sorry to be at risk for beating a dead horse, .....but there's still plenty of openings in the 4-door Barracuda thread. Just sayin'  

[XH29N0G]

Sorry to be at risk for beating a dead horse, .....but there's still plenty of openings in the 4-door Barracuda thread. Just sayin'  

I had completely missed that thread, so your  finally made me look.  Thx

[Ghoste]

Thing is, I had it happen just today about an hour ago. Some guy actually had his left blinker on, doing 48 mph in a 60 zone.
had a line of traffic. I'm sitting in the truck thinkin "damn, Ghoste/Troy would certainly be loving this guy".

Actually I probably wouldn't even notice him because I'd be in the right lane doddering along somewhere closer to the 60mph point.

[JB400]

Just to throw out a scenario:  Speed limit: 65

                                                                                                                                              PO
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                           E  D  Z   Y   X   W  V  C
-  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
                           B                             A
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

As the PO, this is what you see.  Driver C is holding up a line of cars.  Right??  From what I've read, driver C deserves a ticket because he's holding up traffic.  But, here's the situation that led up to this:

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                    Z    Y     X        W        V
-  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  
                                        E                    D                                        C           B                             A
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Drivers A and B are running 62 mph at a steady speed.  Driver C has the cruise on running 65 mph.  Drivers D and E are running 70 mph.  Drivers V, W, X, Y, and Z are running 80 mph.  As you can see, A and B are running close enough to pass them both at the same time.  Driver C running 65 pulls out to pass.  Drivers V,W, X, Y, and Z end up behind him, bottling them up, making them run 65.  D and E catch up and tack up on to the end.  But, as the officer, you see the results of this.  C is holding up V, W, X, Y, Z, D, and E.  C can pull over, but has V blocking his mirrors, preventing him to see if he is clear of A.  Therefore, C has to pull far enough ahead to make sure he's clear of A.

Does driver C deserve to be pulled over?  Yes, this scenario has and will happen.

[Troy]

Driver C didn't check his mirror before cutting into traffic! Yes, it happens all the time. Unless your scale is way off (and it very well could be) the cars moving 15 mph faster would be catching C way faster than C would be overtaking A and B. C should either speed up when passing (if there's room) or wait until the lane clears. Otherwise V has to shut off the cruise control (ie jam on the brakes) causing everyone behind (for 5 miles apparently) to "stack up".

Troy

[JB400]

Driver C would see that he has plenty of room to get over to make his pass.  Therefore, he'd do so. Like I said, C has the cruise on.  I don't know very many people that's going to turn off the cruise just to pass someone.  On my illustration, V would actually catch up to C about the time he was pulling along side B.  

But, as C, I'd go ahead and pass A and B in the same time to save from cutting B off and getting bottled up behind A.  I'd have to shut the cruise off.  It's a hassle to have to push a button

[TUFCAT]

Hello, I'm driver Z in the first example....

My name is Ethel Merman driving a 4-door Barracuda.

I'm in the left lane behind drivers Y, X, W, V and now C!

I'm waiting for this "Cluster-F" of drivers to clear up so I can hit resume on my speed control, and get back into the groove doing 80 mph like my other friends -  before all of this happened.

I don't care how it happened, and it doesn't really piss me off.  Its just another part of driving.

So I'm going to wait patiently behind driver Y for now...

I'm not going to tailgate him or get my blood pressure elevated.

I might take this opportunity to change the radio station or pick my nose...I'm not really sure.

When drivers Y, X, W, V and C get their shit together, which means speed up, move over, or exit, I'm going to have to make a decision.

I can either hit resume on my speed control and get back up to my previous 80 mph cruising in the left lane as a lane hog, or merge into the right when it becomes clear and slow down to a more reasonable 75mph...

Looking at my gas gauge I figure its better to slow down to 75mph, because I'll get better fuel economy with my 340-4bbl...  

[XH29N0G]

I think one of the drivers V- Z would pass on the right if C left that much space and was only going the speed limit.   

[JB400]

I think one of the drivers V- Z would pass on the right if C left that much space and was only going the speed limit.  

In front of a police officer?

[flyinlow]

In front of a police officer?
[/quote]




I thought the Police Officer was busy changing the radio station and picking his nose?....... I'm so confused.

[flyinlow]

Ethel Merman... I think I remember hearing her sing a song.


You'll   be great,      You'll be swell,

You'll be drivin' that 4 door Cuda so well.

[Troy]

Driver C would see that he has plenty of room to get over to make his pass.  Therefore, he'd do so. Like I said, C has the cruise on.  I don't know very many people that's going to turn off the cruise just to pass someone.  On my illustration, V would actually catch up to C about the time he was pulling along side B. 

But, as C, I'd go ahead and pass A and B in the same time to save from cutting B off and getting bottled up behind A.  I'd have to shut the cruise off.  It's a hassle to have to push a button

Uh, so it's NOT a hassle for everyone in the left lane to shut off their cruise control?

If V catches C just as C catches B then C definitely should have waited. If C is almost to A when V catches up then that's the way it works out some days.

To put it into perspective...
C is covering 95.3 feet per second, A and B are covering 90.9 making the rate of closure 4.4 feet per second (slower than most people walk). If the cars are 18' long, 60' apart (about 3 car lengths), and C leaves a 40' cushion (each end) when changing lanes then it will take roughly 44 seconds to pass both cars. The cars in the left lane are traveling at 117.3 feet per second with a closure rate of 26.4 feet per second. Six times faster than car C is closing in! If they are 200' back in car C's mirror they will cover that distance in 8 seconds and have passed cars A and B in 7.3 seconds - nearly 29 seconds sooner than C would have managed to get passed them and in roughly the amount of time it would take C to get in front of B. Cars in the left lane would need to be about 1,000 feet back for C to pass cleanly without anyone having to change speeds.

Troy

[XH29N0G]

In front of a police officer?

I thought the Police Officer was busy changing the radio station and picking his nose?....... I'm so confused.
[/quote]

I got more math.....maybe wrong....  maybe right

Maybe they would see the police officer/maybe not.  

If Car C is travelling at 65mph, that is something like 5720 feet/minute.  Car A is travelling at 62 mph (5280 feet/minute).  It takes C about 10 second to get about 44 feet in front of A, which is enough space for V (and probably W and X) to squeeze in and accelerate to 80    .   The police officer would be pretty far ahead - I'll explain my thinking.    

In the picture there are 6 cars between  C and A.   Assuming each car has a car length between them, this is 6 x 30 feet or 180 feet.  It takes a little over 40 seconds for C to open this space with A, and C would have covered a little more than 1/2 a mile in this time.  

So yes, I think someone would pass.  If they didn't they would be wasting time - The might  be way ahead of C in this 30 second time    

[Troy]

And heck yeah I'd pass on the right in front of a cop! But I wouldn't have to as C would slam on the brakes, swerve back in the right lane, and maintain 50mph until 3 miles past the cop "just in case".

Troy

[XH29N0G]

 

[flyinlow]

Hey,  I'm a Liberal, no injecting empirical data into a discusion.

[RECHRGD]

I don't think any of these problems existing before Bush was in office.....

[ws23rt]

I hear a lot of chatter about the speeds we can or can't do in the left lane. But some of those in the right lane are part of this mix.

The right lane has exactly the same issues as the left except for a few mph slower.  A driver in the right lane that commits to 51mph (for example) is causing the problems in both lanes---Get on the amps prius---

It might help if the speed limits assigned to a particular road be minimum as well as maximum speed. I suspect they are in some places but the driving public needs to know (and be reminded of the fact by penalty)

When C doesn't make in back into the right lane before E,D,orZ can't take it any longer and cause a crash then the whole road gets blocked for some time and driving to slow at that time will get you off from the fine for driving 5 MPH in a 70mph zone

[TUFCAT]

When C doesn't make in back into the right lane before E,D,orZ can't take it any longer and cause a crash then the whole road gets blocked for some time and driving to slow at that time will get you off from the fine for driving 5 MPH in a 70mph zone

I say screw the entire alphabet!  

[ws23rt]

When C doesn't make in back into the right lane before E,D,orZ can't take it any longer and cause a crash then the whole road gets blocked for some time and driving to slow at that time will get you off from the fine for driving 5 MPH in a 70mph zone

I say screw the entire alphabet!  

If car C was a 4 door barracuda would you pass on the right just to check it out?

[bakerhillpins]

OMFG... this thread has turned into the Math portion of the SAT.