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about that Police officer you just flipped off

Started by ACUDANUT, February 28, 2014, 03:31:13 PM

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ACUDANUT

About the truck driver you just flipped... A lot of good reads out there, on both occupations.   Did you know a Police officer makes less than a truck driver and has a higher chance of dying while trying to protect you and your family.  When you call, screaming into the 911 operators ear that your boyfriend has a Gun and wants to end your life and his. (the middle finger disappears and the words help me comes out).

moparsr2fast

I can't resist......

  Flipping off a police officer will more then likely get you a minimum of a great deal of harassment,  once you are pulled over and your identy is confirmed. Most likely a fictious fine, and maybe a trip downtown.... IMHO...   :scratchchin:
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ws23rt

Quote from: moparsr2fast on February 28, 2014, 10:47:03 PM
I can't resist......

  Flipping off a police officer will more then likely get you a minimum of a great deal of harassment,  once you are pulled over and your identy is confirmed. Most likely a fictious fine, and maybe a trip downtown.... IMHO...   :scratchchin:

It's true.  I got a ticket for license plate light not working (in the day time) for flipping off a state trooper when I was 18.  We learn how the world works by trying things out :slap:

moparsr2fast

  I got a pulled over once at about the same age, and got the " Mr H.... you do know it is a privilege to drive in the state of Illinois, don't you?  " when i handed him a speeding ticket for ID...  :eyes:  and yes, it was in a Mopar! 
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JB400

Quote from: ws23rt on February 28, 2014, 10:53:59 PM
Quote from: moparsr2fast on February 28, 2014, 10:47:03 PM
I can't resist......

 Flipping off a police officer will more then likely get you a minimum of a great deal of harassment,  once you are pulled over and your identy is confirmed. Most likely a fictious fine, and maybe a trip downtown.... IMHO...   :scratchchin:

It's true.  I got a ticket for license plate light not working (in the day time) for flipping off a state trooper when I was 18.  We learn how the world works by trying things out :slap:
I asked for a State Trooper when I got pulled over by a city cop and got the same ticket.  $35 :flame: :flame: :flame:  They don't mess with me much now, thanks to a buddy on the force.

myk

Anyone who wants to flip off an officer has been watching too much Dukes of Hazzard, BJ Lobo Show or Super Troopers.  If you don't break any laws there shouldn't be any reason for you to ever talk to an officer let alone disrespect the ONE person on this planet who can put their body in harm's way for the sake of a stranger...

Cooter

The thing that pissed me off is State Inspections are done by inspectors who are an "extension of the state police", yet people will cuss, argue, threaten, etc. Because the inspectors work at a private shop and carry no gun, badge, or handcuffs.

They too learn real quick just like the ones that like to argue with cops.
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Bobs69

Sure they put up with a lot of ignorant people and danger.

The OPP just got a %8.55 pay raise putting a third year constable around the $93 000/year mark.  I haven't had a raise for ten years, and recently our membership has been forced to take pay cuts (over $5/hr). 

Yes at some point we all need them. I don't consider them heros, they are payed too much to do a job.

ACUDANUT

12.50 a hour is too much ? Really ? If Cops are not hero's, than I guess no one in out Military is either.  They both do jobs, that most could not handle for chicken feed.

lukedukem

Quote from: Cooter on March 01, 2014, 09:16:11 AM
The thing that pissed me off is State Inspections are done by inspectors who are an "extension of the state police", yet people will cuss, argue, threaten, etc. Because the inspectors work at a private shop and carry no gun, badge, or handcuffs.

They too learn real quick just like the ones that like to argue with cops.

True. I used to do state inspections. Had a lady come in with 15% tint on her windows. The law is 20%.  So I did my job which was document her vin# and put an x on the backside of the sticker letting other shops know there's an issue. She blew up big time. I explained I was I forcing a state law. She came back later that day and bragged about getting her car inspected down the road.  Next week a trooper from Austin came down to look at our books, in civilian clothing he was off duty on overtime, I told him what happened. He found the shop that did the inspection and revoked there license for six months. But yeah, that job kinda sucked. Everyone always yelling about it.

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myk

Quote from: ACUDANUT on March 01, 2014, 09:42:53 AM
12.50 a hour is too much ? Really ? If Cops are not hero's, than I guess no one in out Military is either.  They both do jobs, that most could not handle for chicken feed.

Of course.  We'd rather pay felony-grade, murderous thugs BILLIONS of dollars to throw around a ball professionally, than to give the proper respect and compensation to the men and women who thanklessly enforce our laws and put themselves into harm's way on our behalf...

el dub

Quote from: Bobs69 on March 01, 2014, 09:38:30 AM
  I don't consider them heros, they are payed too much to do a job.



Exactly. Policemen applied for their position. Same with the military. They volunteered to join the service. And for specific reasons, one of which is the G.I. bill. Others to learn a trade. Some to make a career out of it and get a guaranteed retirement. Ordinary people doing hard jobs. The media made them heroes after 9/11. Did you see any heroes during and after the Viet Nam war. The media damn sure didn't make THEM heroes. So tell me, how are they heroes for doing their jobs? To me heroes are the ones that got the medals for going above and beyond what the rest were doing. These generally, are the ones with an mos of 0311 and 11 bravo. Everyone else, not so much.   
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Patronus

Quote from: ACUDANUT on March 01, 2014, 09:42:53 AM
12.50 a hour is too much ? Really ? If Cops are not hero's, than I guess no one in out Military is either.  They both do jobs, that most could not handle for chicken feed.

Chicken feed? Did someone say chicken feed??! I am an 11B4P and I'll dig a hole in the rain and sleep in it for chicken feed!
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Bobs69

A hero I'd think is someone that goes above and beyond.  Someone that puts other people's interests ahead of their own;  with no consideration for their own safety.  At my place of work that would be called breaking the safety rules.  I used to be on a volunteer fire department, and the one here at work.  They too had rules and procedures.  It was always stressed that you look out for #1.  Of course you would, if you get hurt then you are no good to help anyone.

REAL charity is given without the need for recognition according to my elders.  Real heros don't wear capes and also do things selflessly.

Now back to the police.  Here in Ontario Canada they are like the GUSTAVO.  Yes they put up with a lot of LIARS and Aggressive people and drunks.  There certainly is risk involved for which in this Province they are compensated for more so then any other municipal police force seeing how they are the best and are sometimes called in to help local Police.  For their work they are compensated $93 000/year.  That is NOT the equivalent to $12.50/hr.  I'll just guess that it's equal to $40/hr.  How are things at your job these days?  Have a raise or any recognition lately?


Indygenerallee

Most Cops I have dealt with are all corrupt, I opened a towing business at 25 years old and if I had known how "it was" with trying to get on city and county rotation I would never have got into the towing business! After relentless tries at getting on the rotation I just quit trying come to find out the other two big towing businesses in my town were giving the Sheriff and city police officers AR's to keep the calls coming their way..... one tower showed up to a county call DRUNK!!! and guess what they kept his company on rotation AND HE WAS THE OWNER!!!! pure corruption plain and simple, could be different in other areas but my personal dealings with police officers all run with how much $$$ and we can help you... and I know the State boys get paid well, like $70,000 a year well.
Sold my Charger unfortunately....never got it finished.

mpdlawdog

Quote from: Indygenerallee on March 02, 2014, 11:05:23 AM
Most Cops I have dealt with are all corrupt, I opened a towing business at 25 years old and if I had known how "it was" with trying to get on city and county rotation I would never have got into the towing business! After relentless tries at getting on the rotation I just quit trying come to find out the other two big towing businesses in my town were giving the Sheriff and city police officers AR's to keep the calls coming their way..... one tower showed up to a county call DRUNK!!! and guess what they kept his company on rotation AND HE WAS THE OWNER!!!! pure corruption plain and simple, could be different in other areas but my personal dealings with police officers all run with how much $$$ and we can help you... and I know the State boys get paid well, like $70,000 a year well.

Wow. I can say the same about tow truck companies...I watch tow truck drivers rip people off everyday...$200 just to hook up really!  And charge $100 a day for storage fees!  Talk about taking advantage of people in bad situations...it's not the new Mercedes that break down but the 96 mini  Vans driven by people without any $$. I hate to call a wrecker for people and try to get their car going before I do!
"Life is Tough...It's even tougher when you are stupid"  -John Wayne-

ACUDANUT


Indygenerallee

Sorry, but I started out with one rollback I had paid for with all the cash I had, I charged $45.00 for in town tows.. I did not rip off folks..but I guess that's the way the show works with those big tow companies HAVE to charge exorbant prices to pay off the cops to stay on rotation (and pay the bills)... I didn't stay towing much longer after I saw how the "system" worked... There is not much justice in any form of our current justice system our county built a new jail back in 2007 at a cost of ten million dollars for a county with only 26,000 people.... how much sense does that make? How about trying to help people and counsel people on drugs and actually get them out of their addictions!! That's not the way it works if "law enforcement" were to do that they would loose that precious "job stability"... Gotta keep them coming back! Bail money, Bail money, Bail money!!
Sold my Charger unfortunately....never got it finished.

marshallfry01

In Arkansas it is now a law to wear a seatbelt.  If an officer sees you not wearing it they can pull you over just for that and its a $50 ticket.  I haven't gotten one, but it still gets under my skin.  The state trooper dick heads are the worst about it.  It should be my right.  I'm putting no other person in danger except for myself when I don't wear it.  I just don't understand how I am allowed to ride my motorcycle without a helmet on but I can't drive down the road without wearing a damn seatbelt??? I mean come on. That is pure bs.  That is an example of how the law is more corrupt than it is helpful.   :Twocents:
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JB400

I don't mind the seatbelt law, but it's when the police are the ones not wearing them, then there's a problem.  What happened to leading by example?  Speeding is another example.  I did tell one officer that his speedometer was broke.

Paul G

Last year I was towing a diesel gen set through town in my company truck. Before I left the yard I checked the lights, the tires needed air, so I aired them up, coupler locked down, chains crossed and secured. Nothing loose or hanging, ready to tow.

So I am going down the road and a motorcycle cop is weaving back and forth behind me, coming up along side, both sides, finally his strobe lights come on. I put my flashers on, move to the right, slow down and pull in a parking lot and park the rig.

The cop comes up and tells me he thought it was a trailer and had no vehicle tags, but since it is a piece of equipment it does not require a tag. OK, I am thinking so why I am pulled over then? I don't say anything yet. He wants my license, registration, and insurance card. I get it all for him. He comes back and hands it all back to me and says he is going to check the tires. The little prick is desperately trying to find something to ticket me for. He checks air pressure, which is good, since I just filled them. Comes and tells me to secure the electrical cable better since it is hanging to low. You got to be kidding me I am thinking. Ok sir, I will do that now, I get some tape and secure it a little higher. He is done and tells me to drive safely. I tell the little prick to ride safe and have a nice day.

What was the point in that whole escapade? Just to find something to ticket me for? Which he could not? Don't get me wrong, I have the highest respect for the Police. Maybe this guy just needed to make quota or something.   
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Indygenerallee

Just like ol' Roscoe P. Coltrane.... Bustin' a nut to find something they can write you up on.  :lol:
Sold my Charger unfortunately....never got it finished.


71green go

I have never been upset when I have been stopped for something I am guilty of or for being stopped for a routine pull over.....I wouldn't want to be a policemen I don't have it in me....you need to have a personality that's a bit of prick I think just to deal with all the assholes out there, and there's many
And I do think they can be heros......if they go above and beyond the call of duty to save someone why shouldn't they be called a hero...thank goodness they are out there

69white hat

Quote from: marshallfry01 on March 02, 2014, 04:27:14 PM
In Arkansas it is now a law to wear a seatbelt.  If an officer sees you not wearing it they can pull you over just for that and its a $50 ticket.  I haven't gotten one, but it still gets under my skin.  The state trooper dick heads are the worst about it.  It should be my right.  I'm putting no other person in danger except for myself when I don't wear it.  I just don't understand how I am allowed to ride my motorcycle without a helmet on but I can't drive down the road without wearing a damn seatbelt??? I mean come on. That is pure bs.  That is an example of how the law is more corrupt than it is helpful.   :Twocents:



It only JUST became a law?? Wow. Been the law where I live for probly 20 years. I do remember lots of people complaing about it when it came out, but not so much anymore. In fact, where I work, work vehicles have gps now that know not only when youre speeding, but if you are wearing your seat belt. Get caught once and it's off to a new job. No warnings. They got a few people when that came out but I havent heard of anyone geeting nailed for it in a long time. It's just 2nd nature now.

ACUDANUT

I agree that there are a lot of dumb laws out there.  However, they are meant to protect you.  We call Motorcycle riders "organ donors".  They are just too dangerous with all the idiot drivers out there.

Back to the O.P.> Police Officers are needed just like Truck drivers (just in different ways). Neither get paid much and are seldom appreciated. That's all.

Maybe we should have a different posts complaining about BS laws. (Police Officers don't make laws, they enforce them)  :Twocents:

Bobs69

Quote from: 71green go on March 03, 2014, 09:52:34 PM
I have never been upset when I have been stopped for something I am guilty of or for being stopped for a routine pull over.....I wouldn't want to be a policemen I don't have it in me....you need to have a personality that's a bit of prick I think just to deal with all the assholes out there, and there's many
And I do think they can be heros......if they go above and beyond the call of duty to save someone why shouldn't they be called a hero...thank goodness they are out there

I was pulled over a few weeks ago.  For speeding home from work.  I was a few hours behind schedule.  It was the first time I got caught for speeding to or from on my commute (70km).  Man I hated to see that streak end.  Once I seen the lights I was totally blown away.  I wasn't looking for cops that day, especially one in a SUV.  I slowed right down and drove slowly until there was a SAFE place to pull over.  I knew there was on ramp coming up.

She showed her appreciation for that and my honesty and manners.  I got a reduced ticket.

flyinlow

They work nights, weekends and holidays. They deal with the seamier side of society, they get second guessed, they have to clean up horrible messes and sometimes they have to tell people their loved ones aren't coming home. Their job is probably often boring and then can get fatally exciting in a moment. Sometimes they get to save a child.

Glad most of them are there.

While I don't like occasionally being chosen to pay the go fast tax, I try to remain civil about it. Never flipped a Police Officer off.

Cooter

real good friend of mine is a cop. He is off duty. He clearly witnesses a guy coming out of a bar drunk, climbs into his car and drives off. He radios to a buddy who's on duty and advises him. While in route, he decides to tail him just to make sure he doesn't kill someone.
pulls up in front of his house and sees the car still running in the garage. No lights on in the house, so he sees his fellow officer pull up outside and off duty now, gives him back up as they approach the house. His buddy takes the back and Chuck takes the front door. He knocks on door, no answer. He can clearly see someone moving round inside. He announces again, "Police sir, open up".

Bout this time, he sees the guy emerge from the side door in the open garage with his hand behind him.
"Sir, please show me your hands!". Chuck said he actually saw the guy for a split second think about shooting him.
Chuck's fellow officer comes around the back and demands he "doesn't do it", and the guy lays the gun down on the hood of his still running and radio blaring, car.

Once out on the curb, Chuck asks the guy "what were you thinking? I coulda shot you dead where you stood for that?"
Guy replies "I thought you were breaking in and I gotta right to defend my home and family"....
Chuck says "you know that's a lie. I stated numerous times Police, open up sir". You just thought you were busted for drunk driving and I'm off duty. I didn't catch you, so you were about to die for a misunderstanding.

Chuck calls me from time to time. Some of the sh*t he's had to deal with is every bit as dangerous and life threatening as war.
this is why I'm kinda on the side of the law when it comes to traffic. Every time I've been busted, with the exception of the one time I had to spend a few nights in county, I've been totally at fault and treat the officers with surprisingly ( based on my croud) respect.
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Bobs69

It certainly doesn't do you any good to be ignorant to the police.  Especially when you know you're in the wrong.

I was racing with a co-worker on the way home from work.  I got a phone call the next day from the cops and we discussed it.  I never came right out and admitted anything, but I did say that "we had an understanding and thanks for the reminder."  It was an "off duty cop" that seen us.

I was once told by a friend that the police (OPP) are never really "OFF DUTY."

Another thing I was told.  If you are a real bastard to the cop that pulls you over and you decide to try and fight the ticket, you really screw yourself.  The cop will remember you in court.

moparsr2fast

Quote from: flyinlow on March 08, 2014, 09:19:11 PM

While I don't like occasionally being chosen to pay the go fast tax, I try to remain civil about it. Never flipped a Police Officer off.

 :iagree:  I would sooner get into a ring against Hulk Hogan before I showed the disrespect of flipping off an officer of the law.

  I have always been polite and considerate those instances, although I was pulled over once coming home from work at 3am. He told me the plates on my Bronco were registered to a different vehicle in a city 40 miles away. Since I bought the plates new when I purchased the Ford, i mentioned that i didn't think it was possible for them to be registered elsewhere. He got very ticked off and threatened  me with a fictitious  ticket. I just bit my tongue and cooperated knowing full well I was being lied to by a hardass cop. Didn't receive so much as a warning ticket.



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Steve P.

My view on many cops is that they got into the job one person. After a while of seeing how the others with more time on the job do it, they follow suit. This is most times when their head becomes too big to get through many doorways.

I have a buddy who is a retired NJ cop. Great guy. He recently told me that the thing he hates more than anything else in life is a crooked cop. Said he knows way too many of them and had issues with many because they knew he would not falsify their reports. As he tells it, when he started out the taxes of a city or county took good care of payroll. Today taxes still are used for pay, but that most use huge sums of their ticket collection to pay for cars and equipment and judges.

Red light cameras collect huge money everywhere they are set up. The cameras are NOT owned by towns, cops or municipalities. They are corporate owned and take the biggest chunk of the money brought in by the tickets..

NUT SHELL: We are a LONG WAYS AWAY from Mayberry.... To protect and serve has all but been forgotten in many areas. Damn sure the truth here....

Paul G, I had the exact same thing happen to me at my job in NY, just before moving to Florida. Only the cop I had thought my air compressor trailer should have had brakes. He actually tried to give me hell for a 4-wire plug and not 6 or 7 wire for the trailer brakes!!!

There are times when they just cannot be so stupid as to think they know everything!! I just told him that (I agree they should have brakes on them too).. Sheesh!!!!!
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ACUDANUT

Quote from: Steve P. on March 11, 2014, 01:05:57 PM
My view on many cops is that they got into the job one person. After a while of seeing how the others with more time on the job do it, they follow suit. This is most times when their head becomes too big to get through many doorways.

I have a buddy who is a retired NJ cop. Great guy. He recently told me that the thing he hates more than anything else in life is a crooked cop. Said he knows way too many of them and had issues with many because they knew he would not falsify their reports. As he tells it, when he started out the taxes of a city or county took good care of payroll. Today taxes still are used for pay, but that most use huge sums of their ticket collection to pay for cars and equipment and judges.

Red light cameras collect huge money everywhere they are set up. The cameras are NOT owned by towns, cops or municipalities. They are corporate owned and take the biggest chunk of the money brought in by the tickets..

NUT SHELL: We are a LONG WAYS AWAY from Mayberry.... To protect and serve has all but been forgotten in many areas. Damn sure the truth here....

Paul G, I had the exact same thing happen to me at my job in NY, just before moving to Florida. Only the cop I had thought my air compressor trailer should have had brakes. He actually tried to give me hell for a 4-wire plug and not 6 or 7 wire for the trailer brakes!!!

There are times when they just cannot be so stupid as to think they know everything!! I just told him that (I agree they should have brakes on them too).. Sheesh!!!!!

I think I know what you mean ? :scratchchin: