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Mopar to retire Hemi.....

Started by Cooter, February 24, 2014, 12:33:10 PM

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Cooter

" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

6spd68

They haven't announced an official end to them yet though right?
Every great legend has it's humble beginning.
Project 668:
1968 Dodge Charger (318 Car)
Projected Driveline:
383 with mild stroke
Carb intake w/Holley 750 VS

6-Speed Dodge Viper Transmission

Fully rebuilt Dana-60 w/Motive gears. 3.55 Posi, Yukon axles.

Finished in triple black. 

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myk

Those executives are idiots.  If we really wanted to split hairs, for many of us the "real" Hemi retired about 40 some-odd years ago; everything since then has been a Hemi by name only, a tribute at best.  So, what difference does it make if they come out with another engine platform and call that a Hemi as well?  None at all-these people are making a commotion for nothing...

Cooter

FIAT in 3..........2...........1........





The hemi is  .  Dead........AGAIN?
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

JB400

I say it will probably go through a evolutionary process in a similar way that Chevrolet has done with their small block, when they converted it to the LS series engines.

But, it isn't going anywhere soon

69bronzeT5

It would be a shame to see the Hemi go and definitely be interesting to see what they have in mind and in the works. I love my 6.1.....
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1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
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odcics2

Original post is bogus. There is no story here... 
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

Cooter

I can only assume you have a counter post that confirms otherwise? Or, is there no story there either?
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

Ghoste

You might say he has an inside connection.  :icon_smile_wink:

69rtse4spd

Has anybody read it on the internet yet, you know it has to be true,  :smilielol:, if you see it there. But wait, this is the net, but you say there is no story, what to do, what to do. I am sure that those who are wiser than I will lead use out of these troubling times. OH GREAT MOPAR GODS, give us a sign. 

bill440rt

HEMI's have just gone up in value again!!!  :boogie: :ricky: :woohoo:
"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce

odcics2

Quote from: Ghoste on February 24, 2014, 06:44:18 PM
You might say he has an inside connection.  :icon_smile_wink:

  direct-><-connection     

:lol:
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

ws23rt

Quote from: myk on February 24, 2014, 12:40:11 PM
Those executives are idiots.  If we really wanted to split hairs, for many of us the "real" Hemi retired about 40 some-odd years ago; everything since then has been a Hemi by name only, a tribute at best.  So, what difference does it make if they come out with another engine platform and call that a Hemi as well?  None at all-these people are making a commotion for nothing...

:2thumbs:  Most of us know about the hemi history and I am one that sits with myk. The 392 is the one that cemented it's place in history. The 426 pushed hemis history to what we are talking about today.

As far as I'm concerned when you pop the hood their should be an engine to see and the hemi does that well.

If marketers chose to move on and change the meaning of the word hemi (like they did with the charger) What can we do?   :Twocents:

The up side is the hemi will live in the collectable market.  And I believe as Bill said the value will rise for the originals for a long time :cheers:

1974dodgecharger


TheAutoArchaeologist

lol.  I enjoy when people single out a single sentence from a conversation and blow it up.

I talked to Ralph Gilles at the Chicago Auto Show, the Hemi as it is today needs to change to the ever evolving fuel standards. 

There is something in the works that will give the Hemi a edge on teh ZL1 and Shelby, but they have some bugs to work out still.... they blew the lower end on another test unit just a month ago.

But there is going to be an evolution of the engine. 

Ryan

Mike DC

  
It's inevitable.  The industry is changing.  The writing is on the wall for all the existing powerplants & drivetrains.



As for the current Hemi being real or not, IMO it's as real as any of them.  It's a big orange Chrysler V8 with hemispherical combustion chambers.  The spark plugs are in the middle of the cylinders.  The exhaust valves are on the far side of the plugs from the intake valves.  

What else does it take to qualify it?  Dual carburetors and mechanical fuel pump?  It's a 21st century production engine.  All the major deviations from the old Hemis are related to improving the new one, not cutting corners.  

Cooter

Quote from: Ghoste on February 24, 2014, 06:44:18 PM
You might say he has an inside connection.  :icon_smile_wink:

I still see no counterpoint. Connection or not. To blindly refute something because you supposedly work for Chrysler, is like the Enron guys saying "There's no scamming here".

Again, I'm of the opinion that this latest incarnation has to be retired like tge SBC. The P.S. engine IMO, is a superior engine.
interesting to see whether Mopar will end on a high note, or produce a 'wedge' engine that makes more power.
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

odcics2

Quote from: Cooter on February 25, 2014, 06:32:53 AM
Quote from: Ghoste on February 24, 2014, 06:44:18 PM
You might say he has an inside connection.  :icon_smile_wink:

I still see no counterpoint. Connection or not. To blindly refute something because you supposedly work for Chrysler, is like the Enron guys saying "There's no scamming here".

Again, I'm of the opinion that this latest incarnation has to be retired like tge SBC. The P.S. engine IMO, is a superior engine.
interesting to see whether Mopar will end on a high note, or produce a 'wedge' engine that makes more power.


Look up Ralph Gilles and ask him.   He'll get back with you...  :2thumbs:
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

TruckDriver

I actually think for the most part, we are going to see the end of the V8 engine in the near future with Obama wanting cars to get 56 mpg by 2018 I think it is.
PETE

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"If you don't straighten up, I'm going to knock you into the middle of next week!" :P

JB400


Ghoste

There is actually an interview with Gilles in the current issue of Hot Rod and he indicates there that they plan to keep the good stuff as long as they can and are building credits now to hold off CAFE.