This world is going straight to hell...

[twodko]

"Quote from: moparsr2fast on Today at 03:34:06 PM

Is it possible that there is an overall agenda to elminate the sovereignty  of this country in the long term, in order to evevtually set up a one world government?"

Of course that's the goal. I submit for your consideration:

The world bank

The Euro

I think all of us are debating this as thoughtful adults. As long as we continue respectful discourse I would be surprised if the mods lock the thread. 

[BigBlackDodge]

I've met more than one policeman or military person who has stated that they would back the government regardless of how contraversial their orders would be.  I don't know if this is just local gun-shop macho-talk or what, and personally I don't see America's own troops turning on its civilians, however the idea that some men and women in this country would have no problem turning their weapons on another for the sake of the government is unnerving...

Jeffrey Miller would say otherwise............


Who is Jeffrey Miller?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Miller




BBD

[ws23rt]

With communication and commerce connecting the world like never before the one place we live in has grown smaller.  To think that a few get together and conspire to make this happen is the nature of conspiracy thinking.  Getting more than a few people to agree on anything is a reach.

The world seems to be more like a group of states that maneuver to share their needs with those that have something to share.

Look at our gov.---they flounder trying to do stuff for the states and just muck things up and cause descent. The gov want's to be our mom and dad but forget that we are adults and the stupid things they tell us to do is much like telling us to brush our teeth.

Hey Gov guard our people from invaders and stop the criminals within.  You are not the brain that makes all happen you are the immune system that keeps us well and safe.

[twodko]

Maybe us MOPAR people should run things. 

[polywideblock]

does that mean we get our own lane   

[twodko]

Oh hell yes!

[moparsr2fast]

does that mean we get our own lane   

  You do realize that if you have an adequately powered Mopar, both lanes are often used... at the same time 

[bull]

Bottom line.......drink the coldest beer, enjoy the best BBQ, love your family and do others as you'd want them to do you.

In other words, eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow we die.

[redmist]

And if you don't have full auto, and RPG's and Tanks the day before the "Revolution"   You will have them the day after, that's a fact.

Lots of good old boys with keys to National Guard property that know how to use that equipment. The tanks in Boise Idaho won't be pointed in the direction of the civilians from all the people I know who drive them. 

For every person currently in the Military, you have three, four?? times as many Military trained people in the civilian sector that can still utilize that training.

[Tilar]

You're not the first one I've heard say that. People don't revoke the oath to protect the constitution when you retire from the service.

[bull]

You're not the first one I've heard say that. People don't revoke the oath to protect the constitution when you retire from the service.

Especially when those.in.power are not adhering to the Constitution.

[Mopar Nut]

Especially when those.in.power are not adhering to the Constitution.

Amen!

[twodko]

Roger that..........even 40+ years later.

I might not be as good as I once was but I'm still good once as I ever was.

[ws23rt]

Their is something about human nature that makes it tough to move ahead in our collective thinking. That is the stubborn resistance to alternate thinking.  It may be just a blind thought process that comes from thinking one has found an answer.

When we are young we know nothing. As we learn things and find out some of them are wrong we feel bad. As we get better at dealing with this (how to not feel bad) we tend to cover the fact that we were wrong and it's enough that no one else knows. But inside we know we were wrong.

When one steps into a position of power and influence and makes a big decision that turns out to be a blunder it's understandable that to admit to it would be humiliating. So what is the thought process in a case like this?  Do the right thing? Or gamble that it will go away?

Where I'm going with this is when some get a chance as a leader and it becomes clear that their ideas and moves don't match with their obligation what do they tend to do?  They cover up--they blame others--and they hang on hoping it will go away.  The position given to them intoxicates and blinds them.

The road these folks follow doesn't lead to a flattering place in history.