all chargers are junk except

[1974dodgecharger]

This one of course per sellers opinion.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Charger-coupe-1968-dodge-charger-r-t-/321309244517?forcerrptr=true&hash=item4acf85fc65&item=321309244517&pt=US_Cars_Trucks#viTabs_0

[Cooter]

"All 5 original build sheets"

[1974dodgecharger]

"All 5 original build sheets"

If she said 10 I would believe it 

[Ghoste]

And a frame off restoration.

[tan top]

 

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[myk]

And a frame off restoration.

Frame-off, as in nothing is attached to the frame at all...

[Mytur Binsdirti]

Ugh, roof rot. 

[chaos52]

And a frame off restoration.

That was my favorite part 

[Ghoste]

And you expect from individuals somewhat because people write things inads without even thinking about they are putting down but if this is supposed to actually be the great restoration shop that Heather implies, then they should know better.

[lukedukem]

After reading the ?s and answers it sounds like a scam almost. Maybe I'm just confused as to what is going on with this add.   but she was kinda avoiding answering some of them.

Ugh, roof rot.  

X2

But my charger is junk so what do I know. 

Luke

[Ghoste]

Yeah, she seems to really want e mail addresses and phone contacts.

[6spd68]

This is the sad part of our hobby; people that happen upon these cars, and only see a blind profit.  It's unfortunate, as now something that should have been 8000$ tops is horribly inflated.  If it's not a scam; it'll probably sit, and sit, and sit, until some poor sap buys the thing and takes the rest of his life to try and restore it.

It's obvious the seller doesn't give 2 sh!ts, and is just in it for a quick buck.  Truely dissapointing...

[chargerboy69]

And a frame off restoration.

It doesn't even look like a "wheels off" restoration. It is still sitting on 45 year old suspension.

[myk]

This is the sad part of our hobby; people that happen upon these cars, and only see a blind profit.  It's unfortunate, as now something that should have been 8000$ tops is horribly inflated.  If it's not a scam; it'll probably sit, and sit, and sit, until some poor sap buys the thing and takes the rest of his life to try and restore it.

It's obvious the seller doesn't give 2 sh!ts, and is just in it for a quick buck.  Truely dissapointing...

Actually, I think sellers like this are a good thing.  Why?  Because their desire to make a quick buck will hopefully attract buyers who are looking to make a quick buck as well.  I'd wager that a person who is TRULY looking for a quality car or project for the long term will know better than to accept ridiculous claims and auctions like this one.  I say let the scalpers, flippers, quick-buck types fumble about with their bogus auctions; people who sincerely want a quality vehicle/project for the long term will probably know to stay away; that's the kind of people we want in our family anyway...

[Ghoste]

Hmm, thats a good way to look at it.

[Homerr]

Zero feedback seller, wants personal info.....sounds like a scammer/id theif whether there is an actual car or not.

[bull]

When cool cars happen to bad people...

[NHCharger]

The last statement in her description.

also as you may know,Mopar will have a car in next years Daytona 500, racing a car similar to what Richard Petty won all those races back in the day...thus creating a huge demand for these old Mopars and their prices are rising daily....we have a barn load of them in Alabama that our agent is going to next week,,,we have a list if your interested in them!"

A barn load in Alabama

[6spd68]

I say let the scalpers, flippers, quick-buck types fumble about with their bogus auctions; people who sincerely want a quality vehicle/project for the long term will probably know to stay away; that's the kind of people we want in our family anyway...

Fair, but it would be nice if they didn't exsist at all.

[RallyeMike]

Vehicle description:

      "this one came out of the blue.....we heard about it....blah, blah...."

And then in the Q/A section:

      "It belongs to a friend of mine...."

They can't even maintain the consitency of their false sales hype within the ad.

This is the typical ad that most car guys in the know read and roll their eyes at, but it only takes one sucker to sell it. Hopefully is sells for a reasonable price to a knowledgable and motivated new owner.

[Lord Warlock]

5 "laminated" build sheets? don't you know that lamination ruins the originality of the build sheet, you could take one, make copies of it and laminate them and noone would ever know.  I found parts of 3 build sheets in mine, only one was whole.  Wish i knew what a build sheet was when i pulled the one out of the underside of the dash and tossed it. One under the carpets, one under the back seat. 

[cudaken]

Seller said a numbers matching fully documented DOA

Think she has the DOA part right! 

Not sure what she is smoking, but its got to be some nasty shit!

Cuda Ken

[Indygenerallee]

What a turd, look at that roof!! 

[69wannabe]

In the words of our favorite Uncle Jessie " the whole thing stinks to high heaven!! "  Looks to have scam wrote all over it!! So many lies and BS in her description she must be from Washington DC. 

[polywideblock]

reply to my questions about lack of pics of it restored


                           No one said it was restored....we have 38 pics of the car....send me ur email addy and i'll send them to you    Heather

[myk]

reply to my questions about lack of pics of it restored


                           No one said it was restored....we have 38 pics of the car....send me ur email addy and i'll send them to you    Heather

Hmm...Maybe I'll send her my email and request nude pics of herself; considering the b.s. nature of her auction she MUST be hot...

[fy469rtse]

When I first saw this I thought, oh someone started with a car as bad as mine.lol
Resto thread starting point junk, actually it's probably true , then most of us guys work on them and bring them back to life,

[Ghoste]

You think Obama and Pelosi are flipping Chargers now? 

[plasticman-32]

this car is junk and she says compared to other 68s that are junk?? the roof is gone as well as holes everywere
people get so despret for these cars they forget how hard and how much is is to repair i feel bad for the sucker that gets involved in this joke and as for the seller shes something else calling people who see a red flag a broke cretic!!!!!

[ws23rt]

Cars like this keep popping up and will continue to do so.  But one thing is a guarantee. They don't heal themselves.  The future is fewer of these and in worse condition.  The survivor type are fewer to start with and they decay as well.

For those that are waiting for the opportunity that can't be missed.---Make up your mind---beat them down on the price etc.

Tomorrow this car will be worse off unless and until someone stops the rust monster

The day after tomorrow there will no longer be these cars and we will be left with what someone else has saved from the grim reaper.  

Forget the gamble part of the equation. We all know, and it has been said many times this hobby does not bring financial returns. A buyer in this hobby is an enthusiast that finds something to start with that fits a tight budget.

BTW It is good fun to try to identify the seller by the add.  Much is clear to most that read the add about the seller.  I for one get a kick out of the fact that the adds have been reread and accepted before submitted 

But that may politically incorrect to smile at someones handicap. OOps

[1974dodgecharger]

Well put, very few make a major buck we all take a loss though sometimes that one gem comes up that u buy from a old lady who does not a thing about the car and then sell it.

Cars like this keep popping up and will continue to do so.  But one thing is a guarantee. They don't heal themselves.  The future is fewer of these and in worse condition.  The survivor type are fewer to start with and they decay as well.

For those that are waiting for the opportunity that can't be missed.---Make up your mind---beat them down on the price etc.

Tomorrow this car will be worse off unless and until someone stops the rust monster

The day after tomorrow there will no longer be these cars and we will be left with what someone else has saved from the grim reaper.  

Forget the gamble part of the equation. We all know, and it has been said many times this hobby does not bring financial returns. A buyer in this hobby is an enthusiast that finds something to start with that fits a tight budget.

[Davtona]

Cars like this keep popping up and will continue to do so. The future is fewer of these and in worse condition.  

For those that are waiting for the opportunity that can't be missed.---Make up your mind---beat them down on the price etc.

 While I'm not recomending this car to anyone at the asking price I agree with this post. The easy projects are safely tucked away by now and are not for sale or have been restored. They were bought up long ago for a price that at the time everybody thought was to much for that rough/rusty of a car. Hindsight is 20/20 as they say and those deals look pretty good in 2014 and whats available now looks terrible. But they aren't going to get any better as that is probably mostly whats left out there.  

[MoparMotel]

To me it looks like "Heather's" boyfriend Billy Joe Bob bought this car for $1,500 from under that tree where it has been sitting for the last 25 years and brought it home to his garage, disassembled it, had his buddy "rebuild" the engine for a $1,000 bucks and is trying to make a quick buck on it. Like most of you guys know it is not easy or cheap to restore these cars. I have a file folder in my office with all the receipts and invoices when my dad and I restored my '68 and it ain't cheap. I think those invoices in that file folder are probably somewhere close to $30,000, and that's not including the cost of the car, or that we did a lot of the work our self besides paint, body, and engine and transmission rebuild.

[1974dodgecharger]

I would hate to look at a file folder for the expenses for these cars.  I just look at my biweekly budget and if i have enough i get what I need.

[Mike DC]

  
I don't think the overall situation has changed nearly as much as the dollar figures have.  Inflation is running up the numbers.  Cars that used to be $5k or $15k or $30k are still there, they just trade for $15k or $30k or $50k now.    


The bottom stuff has gone up more because these cars are nearing 50 years old.  Even a crappy old car cannot still exist anymore unless somebody cared enough about it to spend some money/effort preserving it over the years.  That affects the price.  

[MoparMotel]

I would hate to look at a file folder for the expenses for these cars.  I just look at my biweekly budget and if i have enough i get what I need.

That's a good way to do it, trust me you don't want too lol. I had a 69 R/T SE 440 console car that we restored to a mint General Lee in 2005 and sold it in 2007 because I didn't have a place to park it and didn't drive it...Have been getting "The Bug" to build another General Lee for a couple months now but hell I can save probably $20,000 by just buying one already done on eBay... Sad but true...that one cost about $44,500 to build, and I can buy a pretty clean one for $27-30 now.

[400sforever]

ya that ad on ebay is a total scam. Ive filed 3 reports on that car to ebay. you guys should do the same to keep the scammers off of there. In about the middle of the listing page, off to the right there is a link that says report this item. That "Heather" is trying to charge guys $200 to just come look at the car. Hello!!

[randy73]

The last statement in her description.

also as you may know,Mopar will have a car in next years Daytona 500, racing a car similar to what Richard Petty won all those races back in the day...thus creating a huge demand for these old Mopars and their prices are rising daily....we have a barn load of them in Alabama that our agent is going to next week,,,we have a list if your interested in them!"

A barn load in Alabama

Yep they do, I have seen them. All rusting away and way over priced. The seller was a broker and not the owner of the cars, they know GM and the broker was a nice guy, owner was a dreamer. Had a 72 Cuda with holes all through the floor plan and told me the pan was solid.

[5hunert]

So take your pick of its current condition:

"...ours is a frame off restoration with the motor rebuilt"

"...all that needs to be done is put it all back together"

"...This car is not restored,...its been disassembled pc by pc...motor totally rebuild .."

"...No one said it was restored...."

All thats missing is the phrase "all the hard work is done."

[69charger2002]

Apparently this car is buyer beware.. Look at the feedback received by the winning bidder:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Charger-coupe-1968-dodge-charger-r-t-/321309244517?forcerrptr=true&hash=item4acf85fc65&item=321309244517&pt=US_Cars_Trucks#ht_130wt_1042

and now they have relisted the car with a different screen name...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Charger-coupe-1968-dodge-charger-r-t-/141185690562?forcerrptr=true&hash=item20df52abc2&item=141185690562&pt=US_Cars_Trucks#ht_24wt_976

[1974dodgecharger]

She changed the frame off to unibody she is obviously learning about the charger, maybe by the 20th time she will get it perfect each listing and each question someone asks and gets corrected lol.

[Ghoste]

Looks like he dumped Heather and is doing Jill now.  Too bad, I really liked Heather.

[cdr]

Looks like he dumped Heather and is doing Jill now.  Too bad, I really liked Heather.

[DadsCharger00]

If thats the car in the background....did anyone else see the holes they'd cut into that car?!?!

[6spd68]

Has anyone called the #?

[1974dodgecharger]

Looks like he dumped Heather and is doing Jill now.  Too bad, I really liked Heather.

Lmao, good catch 

[polywideblock]

so now the shop run by a psycho can restore it for you    wonder if heather is stored in the shop somewhere   

[1974dodgecharger]

Has anyone called the #?

U can text her she responds believe it or not....i told her i was Steve her old boyfriend and get this she had a boyfriend named Steve so she asked me how i been etc.....

[polywideblock]

is this heather or jill ?   

[1974dodgecharger]

is this heather or jill ?   

It's the new ad with Jill, i didnt text again when she asked me how i been.   

[Ghoste]

You should been all over that man.  "Oh you know baby, I've just been missing you and stuff and I feel really bad about what happened between us.  We should definitely try and hook up and I definitely am ready to commit now and do whatver you want.  I will make this work baby if you just give me another chance.  Come by my place tonight and I'll prove it".

[polywideblock]

that positively evil       I love it   

[ACUDANUT]

Hey, it has a new rear fender. lol.  I thought those were in the front. 

[TUFCAT]

You should been all over that man.  "Oh you know baby, I've just been missing you and stuff and I feel really bad about what happened between us.  We should definitely try and hook up and I definitely am ready to commit now and do whatver you want.  I will make this work baby if you just give me another chance.  Come by my place tonight and I'll prove it".

What if she's a PIG? 

[1974dodgecharger]

You should been all over that man.  "Oh you know baby, I've just been missing you and stuff and I feel really bad about what happened between us.  We should definitely try and hook up and I definitely am ready to commit now and do whatver you want.  I will make this work baby if you just give me another chance.  Come by my place tonight and I'll prove it".

What if she's a PIG? 

Jesus tuffcat did u just put some underwear in your cat in your avatar? 

[TUFCAT]

Jesus tuffcat did u just put some underwear in your cat in your avatar? 

Depends. 

[5hunert]

Is this the engine that comes with it?  Maybe its one of the rare experimental air cooled Chargers

[The70RT]

So a guy won it and left negative feedback.....makes you wonder how ebay lets them open another account 

[ACUDANUT]

I didn't think you could leave negative feedback anymore on Ebay.  Also, the sellers have had only one sell.

[Baldwinvette77]

"guys a psycho and doesn't even own the car" 

[The70RT]

Buyer can leave negative feedback, but the seller can't.

[miller time]

so you guys charge a $200 fee for the buyer to look at the car your selling? i need to start doing that, apparently realestate agents do it too, or its just ebay scammers

[TUFCAT]

I agree. Its the most bizarre eBay scam listing I've seen so far...~! 

[polywideblock]

so their charging $200 for a look at car      wonder how many wanabe  charger owners have been hit for $200 in the last couple of weeks  .

[The70RT]

So maybe the guy that won the car the first time around didn't look at it for 200 and took a chance and seen it was a pos after he got to see it. Someone ought to bid it up just to mess with them.

[JB400]

I don't think too many people would buy it with the name jalopy for a sellers name.  She had to relist it again  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Charger-coupe-/141187076218?vxp=mtr

[ACUDANUT]

 I can see it now. Hey man, were you looking at my car, just a minute ago. You owe me 200 bucks.