High Beams

[HeavyFuel]

Not these.



To help correct the dim road created by the woefully inadequate headlights on our cars, has anyone tried aiming the 'brights' down a little bit, and running with four lights on instead of just two?

I think that might be worth a try.    

[Ghoste]

It seems like sound advice.

[Cooter]

Even aimed down, the high beams are brighter. I see a ticket and or many middle fingers if implemented...
seeing as how the headlights are hidden on these cars, I'd be looking into some brighter low beam lamps.

[twenty mike mike]

The gendarmes will take a dim view of your plan. 

I'll do this eventually, after I make the appropriate wiring modifications.

http://www.amazon.com/HELLA-002850811-Halogen-Conversion-Headlamp/dp/B001G7A9YS/ref=pd_sim_sbs_auto_1/190-7514767-0267933

[bill440rt]

I put a set of Hella's in my '68. Plug-n-play. Huge difference. Next best thing to the xenon conversion kits IMHO. 

[XH29N0G]

I put a set of Hella's in my '68. Plug-n-play. Huge difference. Next best thing to the xenon conversion kits IMHO. 

Are these easily found?  I just did a quick search on the Hella web site and wasn't successful.  I could need a 

[A383Wing]

I got Sylvainia or Wagner halogens in mine...drop in replacement and they even draw less amps then regular sealed beams

[twenty mike mike]

I put a set of Hella's in my '68. Plug-n-play. Huge difference. Next best thing to the xenon conversion kits IMHO. 

Are these easily found?  I just did a quick search on the Hella web site and wasn't successful.  I could need a 

http://www.hella.com/hella-us/951.html?rdeLocale=en

http://www.myhellalights.com/pdf/2012_HELLA_INC_Accessories_Catalog.pdf

Page 77, Conversion Headlamps. You'll want the H4 bulbs, Page 107. Don't touch the bulb glass with your fingers, since your skin oil will cause a hot spot when they're on and cause early failure.

Entering "Hella H4" into your favorite search engine will result in dozens of hits.

[69white hat]

I just bought a complete hid kit from blinding hid, comes with every piece you need. Should have a nice modern look and be bright going down the road.

[XH29N0G]

I put a set of Hella's in my '68. Plug-n-play. Huge difference. Next best thing to the xenon conversion kits IMHO. 

Are these easily found?  I just did a quick search on the Hella web site and wasn't successful.  I could need a 

http://www.hella.com/hella-us/951.html?rdeLocale=en

http://www.myhellalights.com/pdf/2012_HELLA_INC_Accessories_Catalog.pdf

Page 77, Conversion Headlamps. You'll want the H4 bulbs, Page 107. Don't touch the bulb glass with your fingers, since your skin oil will cause a hot spot when they're on and cause early failure.

Entering "Hella H4" into your favorite search engine will result in dozens of hits.

Thank you.  guess I did need a    This helps.

[66FBCharger]

The gendarmes will take a dim view of your plan. 

I'll do this eventually, after I make the appropriate wiring modifications.

http://www.amazon.com/HELLA-002850811-Halogen-Conversion-Headlamp/dp/B001G7A9YS/ref=pd_sim_sbs_auto_1/190-7514767-0267933

This sounds like a great mod. What wiring mods need to be made to use these headlights?

[Dino]

Dropped halogens in mine and doubled the output.  Probably the cheapest, quickest and most effective mod ever!  I can't wait to get it running again so I can see the relay mod at work.

I'm actually thinking of getting rid of the inner light and replacing them with the outer lights so I have 4 low and 4 high beams.

[twenty mike mike]

The gendarmes will take a dim view of your plan. 

I'll do this eventually, after I make the appropriate wiring modifications.

http://www.amazon.com/HELLA-002850811-Halogen-Conversion-Headlamp/dp/B001G7A9YS/ref=pd_sim_sbs_auto_1/190-7514767-0267933

This sounds like a great mod. What wiring mods need to be made to use these headlights?

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,168.0.html

[HeavyFuel]

Even aimed down, the high beams are brighter. I see a ticket and or many middle fingers if implemented...
seeing as how the headlights are hidden on these cars, I'd be looking into some brighter low beam lamps.

Yeah, I forgot about the brightness, was just thinking aim.   

[HeavyFuel]

Dropped halogens in mine and doubled the output.  Probably the cheapest, quickest and most effective mod ever!  I can't wait to get it running again so I can see the relay mod at work.

I'm actually thinking of getting rid of the inner light and replacing them with the outer lights so I have 4 low and 4 high beams.

Um...I'm not trackin'. 


Additional wiring needed?

[Dino]

Dropped halogens in mine and doubled the output.  Probably the cheapest, quickest and most effective mod ever!  I can't wait to get it running again so I can see the relay mod at work.

I'm actually thinking of getting rid of the inner light and replacing them with the outer lights so I have 4 low and 4 high beams.

Um...I'm not trackin'. 


Additional wiring needed?

Sorry, I wasn't clear.  That happens.   

Instead of having 2 low/high beam headlights  and 2 high beam headlights, why not use 4 low/high beam headlights?  All 4 are on when the lights are on and all 4 go to high beam when you hit the foot switch.  All that would be needed is to add wires for the additional low beams and that's easy enough, even if you use the relay mod.

I don't see why that would not be a major improvement over the stock system, then again I don't see everything either.   

[A383Wing]

Dropped halogens in mine and doubled the output.  Probably the cheapest, quickest and most effective mod ever!  I can't wait to get it running again so I can see the relay mod at work.

I'm actually thinking of getting rid of the inner light and replacing them with the outer lights so I have 4 low and 4 high beams.

you will need to get the buckets that the lights mount to..you cannot put a low beam light into a high beam mounting pod

[Dino]

Dropped halogens in mine and doubled the output.  Probably the cheapest, quickest and most effective mod ever!  I can't wait to get it running again so I can see the relay mod at work.

I'm actually thinking of getting rid of the inner light and replacing them with the outer lights so I have 4 low and 4 high beams.

you will need to get the buckets that the lights mount to..you cannot put a low beam light into a high beam mounting pod

Thanks for letting me know, I had no idea!   

I'm pretty sure I have a full set in my spare grille and if not they're easy enough to find.

Would you happen to know if you can mount the low/high beam pod in the high beam pod's spot without mods?

[A383Wing]

I don't know about the second gen cars...I do know I could not mount the hi-lo pod in the spot where the hi pod is on a first gen Charger....mounting tabs were in different location, and it would have been real hard to try to change it because they mounted into the pot metal headlight housings.

Second Gen might be easier because of mounting to sheet metal

[Dino]

I don't know about the second gen cars...I do know I could not mount the hi-lo pod in the spot where the hi pod is on a first gen Charger....mounting tabs were in different location, and it would have been real hard to try to change it because they mounted into the pot metal headlight housings.

Second Gen might be easier because of mounting to sheet metal

That's probably true.  I love customizing but at this point in my life even the small projects take me a long time.  A day is only so long and I need my beauty sleep...or coma...

[myk]

Driving with your brights on is unnecessary.  Install fresh wiring, perform the relay 'mod and possibly a higher 'amp 'alt and you will never worry about inadequate, dim headlights again. 

[HeavyFuel]

Driving with your brights on is unnecessary.  Install fresh wiring, perform the relay 'mod and possibly a higher 'amp 'alt and you will never worry about inadequate, dim headlights again.  

I just got my car "done", not about to rip into it to do the relay mod.

The wiring is new, the alt is new and tested at 64 amps @ 2400 rpm, 93 amps at 7500 rpm (like my engine will ever hit THAT).

Just thought there might be an easy way to pick up a few candlepowers on the cheap......plus I thought it might look cool two have four lights burning up front instead of just two.

[Plumcrazy]

I just bought a complete hid kit from blinding hid, comes with every piece you need. Should have a nice modern look and be bright going down the road.

What you are going to have is a lot of light that is scattered all over the place. The sealed beam conversion housing will not focus the light output properly because they are designed for halogens.

HID bulbs emit light differently than halogen bulbs and the housings must be designed for them.

[myk]

Driving with your brights on is unnecessary.  Install fresh wiring, perform the relay 'mod and possibly a higher 'amp 'alt and you will never worry about inadequate, dim headlights again. 

I just got my car "done", not about to rip into it to do the relay mod.

The wiring is new, the alt is new and tested at 64 amps @ 2400 rpm, 93 amps at 7500 rpm (like my engine will ever hit THAT).

Just thought there might be an easy way to pick up a few candlepowers on the cheap......plus I thought it might look cool two have four lights burning up front instead of just two.

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With all due respect, I don't understand.  If the car is "done" and it isn't to performing to your liking then the car isn't "done."  I'm assuming your car is built up to stock 'specs and if that's the case, there's nothing you can ever do with that car in its stock configuration that will allow you to have headlights that  equate to a modern, USABLE standard, without the relay 'mod or modernized electrics.  If you want your car to perform to the higher standards that we've become accustomed to with modern automobiles you will have to modify your car's systems to some degree.  You could drive around with your hi's, but there's a better way to see more on the road, IMO...

[HeavyFuel]

Driving with your brights on is unnecessary.  Install fresh wiring, perform the relay 'mod and possibly a higher 'amp 'alt and you will never worry about inadequate, dim headlights again. 

I just got my car "done", not about to rip into it to do the relay mod.

The wiring is new, the alt is new and tested at 64 amps @ 2400 rpm, 93 amps at 7500 rpm (like my engine will ever hit THAT).

Just thought there might be an easy way to pick up a few candlepowers on the cheap......plus I thought it might look cool two have four lights burning up front instead of just two.

.

With all due respect, I don't understand.  If the car is "done" and it isn't to performing to your liking then the car isn't "done."  I'm assuming your car is built up to stock 'specs and if that's the case, there's nothing you can ever do with that car in its stock configuration that will allow you to have headlights that  equate to a modern, USABLE standard, without the relay 'mod or modernized electrics.  If you want your car to perform to the higher standards that we've become accustomed to with modern automobiles you will have to modify your car's systems to some degree.  You could drive around with your hi's, but there's a better way to see more on the road, IMO...

You make some good points.

Probably spring for the halogens, like Dino said, they are plug and play.   

No need for relays for the hals, correct?   Stock wiring should be enough to power 'em?

[Dino]

Driving with your brights on is unnecessary.  Install fresh wiring, perform the relay 'mod and possibly a higher 'amp 'alt and you will never worry about inadequate, dim headlights again. 

I just got my car "done", not about to rip into it to do the relay mod.

The wiring is new, the alt is new and tested at 64 amps @ 2400 rpm, 93 amps at 7500 rpm (like my engine will ever hit THAT).

Just thought there might be an easy way to pick up a few candlepowers on the cheap......plus I thought it might look cool two have four lights burning up front instead of just two.

.

With all due respect, I don't understand.  If the car is "done" and it isn't to performing to your liking then the car isn't "done."  I'm assuming your car is built up to stock 'specs and if that's the case, there's nothing you can ever do with that car in its stock configuration that will allow you to have headlights that  equate to a modern, USABLE standard, without the relay 'mod or modernized electrics.  If you want your car to perform to the higher standards that we've become accustomed to with modern automobiles you will have to modify your car's systems to some degree.  You could drive around with your hi's, but there's a better way to see more on the road, IMO...

You make some good points.

Probably spring for the halogens, like Dino said, they are plug and play.   

No need for relays for the hals, correct?   Stock wiring should be enough to power 'em?

Correct, you can run them with the stock setup.  I drive my car at night, and more so early mornings to work, and as long as you're above idle the halogens are absolutely more than adequate on the dark country roads here. 

I would however suggest you do the relay mod.  It is very easy to do without hacking up your car and you should only need this one reason to do it: it takes the load off the switch in the dash.  When all is in good shape, there is no problem.  But just as with the ammeter, if the wire is brittle or the connection is less than stellar, you risk creating a fire.

[66FBCharger]

Can someone provide a link to the relay upgrade?

[HeavyFuel]

Can someone provide a link to the relay upgrade?

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,168.0.html

[HeavyFuel]

Driving with your brights on is unnecessary.  Install fresh wiring, perform the relay 'mod and possibly a higher 'amp 'alt and you will never worry about inadequate, dim headlights again.  

I just got my car "done", not about to rip into it to do the relay mod.

The wiring is new, the alt is new and tested at 64 amps @ 2400 rpm, 93 amps at 7500 rpm (like my engine will ever hit THAT).

Just thought there might be an easy way to pick up a few candlepowers on the cheap......plus I thought it might look cool two have four lights burning up front instead of just two.

.

With all due respect, I don't understand.  If the car is "done" and it isn't to performing to your liking then the car isn't "done."  I'm assuming your car is built up to stock 'specs and if that's the case, there's nothing you can ever do with that car in its stock configuration that will allow you to have headlights that  equate to a modern, USABLE standard, without the relay 'mod or modernized electrics.  If you want your car to perform to the higher standards that we've become accustomed to with modern automobiles you will have to modify your car's systems to some degree.  You could drive around with your hi's, but there's a better way to see more on the road, IMO...

You make some good points.

Probably spring for the halogens, like Dino said, they are plug and play.  

No need for relays for the hals, correct?   Stock wiring should be enough to power 'em?

Correct, you can run them with the stock setup.  I drive my car at night, and more so early mornings to work, and as long as you're above idle the halogens are absolutely more than adequate on the dark country roads here.  

I would however suggest you do the relay mod.  It is very easy to do without hacking up your car and you should only need this one reason to do it: it takes the load off the switch in the dash.  When all is in good shape, there is no problem.  But just as with the ammeter, if the wire is brittle or the connection is less than stellar, you risk creating a fire.

Yeah, hate to burn 'er down.

I did the ammeter bypass, suppose the relays are next.  Another thing to add to the list....guess it's true, they're never really done.

[cjw916]

I just installed H4 halogen upgrade on my '68 Charger. (LEDs, too.)
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,104078.0/all.html

The buckets were identical for high & low beam? (see pic) I thought about running 4 low beams & 4 high beams, but once I got on the road, the H4 bulbs are considerably brighter than my previous halogens, so I abandoned that idea. Plus, I wanted to run low beams with the Halo effect on the high beam bulb, so I wanted that option.

The Halo H4 bulbs that I installed are at minimum 1.5x as bright as the halogen bulbs I replaced. In fact, if I leave my brights on for a long time, maybe 5 minutes, something in the wiring gets 'over-loaded' and the brights will go out, so I am going to do the headlight relay upgrade with a separate 30Amp lead as detailed in Charger70's world famous headlight relay upgrade:
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,168.0.html

Only thing I noticed, was the link to waytekwire.co no longer links to a Bosch 75101, so I ordered the Bosch 75401 relays instead.

Also, waytekwire makes you order a minimum of some of the connectors, etc?
I had to order 10 of the relay mounting blocks: 75280, they were cheap, though. $6.79 for 10
I had to order 50 of the relay connectors: 31073, they were very cheap, too. $8.27 for 50
It let me order only 2 of the 5-pin relays. $13.70 for 2
Grand total $33.76 to ensure my 45 year old wiring does not burn my car down! LOL.

If anyone needs 2 mounting blocks or connectors, shoot me a PM, I'll send you a couple, I have extras. LOL.

Christopher