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Started by 4402tuff4u, March 08, 2006, 07:39:24 AM

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4402tuff4u

After paying nearly $ 4.66 per square foot for this "Cool-it" insulating material at a local S&K Racing Shop here in NY for my 68 Charger, I started searching for other sources that would carry a similar material for less money. Yesterday, I received J.C Whitney's catalog in the mail and sure enough, they have several types of noise and heat barriers that are in the $ 1.25 up to $ 3.00 range per square foot. Ofcourse you have to add the shipping costs, but so far it's been the least expensive stuff I could find. The stuff they sell at these home improvement giant stores is sort of the same stuff but is much thinner in thickness. It also only comes in narrow rolls. I could only find it in 3" wide and it was called "quick roof". I looked at that stuff and was not impressed at all. Also another source is Summit Racing which also carries a material for $ 1.00 per square foot and it's called "The Wonder Mat", and shipping is included. They do have a charge for handling.

http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/Search?catalogId=10101&storeId=10101&sku=noise+and+heat+insulation&searchbtn.x=11&searchbtn.y=6
"Mother should I trust the government?........... Pink Floyd "Mother"

Shakey

How thick is it?  In millimeters please.

Chryco Psycho

a friend used a brushable ceramic based foam , extremely lightweight
I can get the name of it if needed

4402tuff4u

Quote from: Shakey on March 08, 2006, 07:10:25 PM
How thick is it?  In millimeters please.

The "Cool-it" noise and heat insulation barrier stuff I used in the firewall so far is about 4 mm thick. The "Wonder Mat" @ Summit Racing I believe is about 10 mm. I'm probably going to continue with the 4 mm "Cool-it" type material - cut, peel and apply.  :yesnod:
"Mother should I trust the government?........... Pink Floyd "Mother"

bull

Most of the stuff that comes from JC Whitney is cheap... in more ways than one. I pretty much decided JC isn't really worth the hassle.

Troy

Quote from: Chryco Psycho on March 09, 2006, 02:05:46 AM
a friend used a brushable ceramic based foam , extremely lightweight
I can get the name of it if needed
There's one under the brand name of Lizard Skin. Another is Cool Car Ceramic coating. There are a few other brands as well. Drop Top told me about the stuff and you can find it in street rodder magazines (or on the web).
http://www.coolcarceramic.com/
http://www.bobcoauto.com/keep_your_cool.html
http://www.hotrodscustomstuff.com/RoadTour-24.html

Troy
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Recharger

Quote from: Chryco Psycho on March 09, 2006, 02:05:46 AM
a friend used a brushable ceramic based foam , extremely lightweight
I can get the name of it if needed

If you can get the name of it CP, I'd appreciate it.  It seems like the ones I've seen (Lizard Skin and Cool Car) have to be sprayed.  I'd feel better knowing someone else has had success brushing it before I make the investment.  Thanks.

Chryco Psycho


Troy

Quote from: Recharger on March 14, 2006, 10:25:20 PM
It seems like the ones I've seen (Lizard Skin and Cool Car) have to be sprayed.
The "How to Apply" instructions for Cool Car specify a "A 2" OR-3" Foam or bristle brush".
http://www.coolcarceramic.com/How%20to%20Apply.htm

The same applies to Lizard Skin: "It can be applied by spray, brush or, rolled on..."
http://www.hotrodscustomstuff.com/PS-LizSkin.html

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

Nacho-RT74

Quote from: Shakey on March 08, 2006, 07:10:25 PM
How thick is it? In millimeters please.

are you guys already starting to work on metric measurements up there ?
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http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

4402tuff4u

Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on March 15, 2006, 12:03:48 PM
Quote from: Shakey on March 08, 2006, 07:10:25 PM
How thick is it? In millimeters please.

are you guys already starting to work on metric measurements up there ?

Canada has been for awhile - I believe.
In US only in certain government agencies. We are building a bridge for the New York State Department of Transportation and all the contract plans and shop drawings are in metric. Talk about confusing! - you pull you hair out on conversions! You must pay careful attention cause errors are very easy to make trying to work with both. It's almost like a sick joke/obstacle that the state puts out to make things a bit more hard for the contractor! :rant: :image_294343:
"Mother should I trust the government?........... Pink Floyd "Mother"

doctorpimp

Quote from: 4402tuff4u on March 15, 2006, 12:34:25 PM

Canada has been for awhile - I believe.
Yep, since the mid 70's.
It's quite common for us to still use lbs and ft/in for how much you weigh and how tall you are.

5"5" ,110 lbs,  34D, 24, 34 sounds better than ?? ;)
'73 Coupe, 470, Keisler 5spd, 3.55 SG; Petty Blue; Hideaway Headlights.

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Nacho-RT74

if we think that only USA and UK use imperial measurements ( and some influenced areas ) and  the rest of the world that is GIANT AND MOSTLY OF HEART that change will be the right step...

LOL
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

PocketThunder

I just bought edead from http://www.edesignaudio.com/category.php?type=damp&cur=USD I found it on some sound system website thru a search for sound deadener and its 80 cents a square.  I'll post up some pics when i get it installed..
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HeavyFuel

Thsi stuff is kinda spendy, but another option.  They have lots of different products.


http://www.dynamat.com/products_automotive_introduction.html




Mopar2Ya

The liquid deadners seem interesting. I put spry-on bedliner on my floor boards during the repaint for added protection(thin coat). Would spray-on bedliner work on the firewall? I'm wondering if heat would affect the bedliner material.

1970 Charger R/T
2006 GC SRT8

dkn1997

I use rattle can bedliner from the local parts store on my dual snorkel air cleaner some other underhood brackets.  I had headers and it got real hot under there and I never had any heat issues.
RECHRGED

phat69charger

Quote from: PocketThunder on March 23, 2006, 01:24:58 PM
I just bought edead from http://www.edesignaudio.com/category.php?type=damp&cur=USD I found it on some sound system website thru a search for sound deadener and its 80 cents a square.  I'll post up some pics when i get it installed..

They sell on Ebay also: http://stores.ebay.com/Elemental-Designs

Another post about sound deadeners: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,9943.0.html

PocketThunder

Here is the edead going into my 68.  More to follow as i get more installed.  :icon_smile_cool:
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4402tuff4u

Dang Paul! slow down, I'm trying to catch up!! :icon_smile_big:  That looks very nice stuff, I have to order me some....trying to get my Charger home next week! :yesnod: That roller thingy is a good idea to get the wrinkles and air bubbles out.
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PocketThunder

 :icon_smile_big:  Got the floor done.  i used por-15 and then the next night i got the edead down.  carpet and seats are next.  right after i get my wiring done to the back.
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41husk

I need to do that with my Challenger, do you drill out the holes for your seat after the carpet is installed?
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1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
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1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
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PocketThunder

Quote from: 41husk on April 25, 2006, 02:17:55 PM
I need to do that with my Challenger, do you drill out the holes for your seat after the carpet is installed?
I drilled them before i put the deadener and carpet down.  then after carpet i found them and poked a little hole thru the carpet with a punch.  That way the seat bolts help hold down the carpet and keep it in place.
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PocketThunder

how much of that edead stuff did you need to cover the pkg tray and floor?

Thanks

MS