I gotta build a Storage Garage !

[Challenger340]

[Homerr]

[ACUDANUT]

Shop for prices around and BUILD it.

[hawkeye]

What the hell are you waiting for?   You worked hard all your life, now enjoy some of the money while you still can.  If you don't go first class, your children will.

[JB400]

Build you a pole barn instead of a fancy garage.  Heck of a lot cheaper if you don't get too crazy.

[Troy]

I'd pay $200 a month before I sold it. I'm in the position of looking to buy a house with enough space to hold my cars. I'm tempted to sell a few just to make life easier - but not ALL! I'm single though so I don't have to justify what I spend money on.

Troy

[69rtse4spd]

Wife never says a word, the pole barn idea could work if you tell her you can make money by storing cars for people in the winter.  .

[twodko]

Build yourself a decent garage/shop building. It doesn't have to be over the top crazy but make it nice....two car minimum. Well insulated, wired for 110/220, get water to it with a sink and heat the place. A small privy is golden at our age too. Attach a good compressor shed while you're at it. Install a wall of cabinets/benches along the back wall with air lines and lots of electrical outlets. A place for a couple people to sit awhile is a good idea as well.

Take the Mrs. on a nice vacation.

If this doesn't smooth the waters......build the garage anyway. You'll have a place to retreat and regroup. 

Gun ports justified as protecting your Charger investment.

[cavemanno1]

I hate it when women do this!Why can't they just support the guy,he worked all his life and wants a dam garage,not a big deal!The property ascent of it the house will be more appealing to someone who is looking for a house with a nice garage!

If you worked for the money she shouldn't say what you can or can't do with it unless it's not a month gambling spree or trip to Thailand chasing girls!

Build it and make it nice and while at it buy an other charger!Why keep the money,can't take it with you!There is a certain point where the man wants to make sure his family is looked after but not doing something he wants because his woman or kids think it's foolish,that is wrong my friend!

[twodko]

Yeah, I forgot to remark on the increase in property value with a new detached garage. If you build this garage, your buddies will come. Muy importante when it comes time to renew your man card.

Another thought.......

With the addition of a comfy devan or chairs, stereo system, maybe a "scaled to the space" flat screen TV and small refrig, the wifal unit would feel welcome to hangout with you while you do stuff. Inclusion is a powerful incentive for womenfolk to buy into "The Plan". You have to compromise too.

If she feels liked she's part of it, and she should be, it will be good for the both of you.

[hemihead]

I have worked on cars all my life . I have never owned a garage . Hell , around here you can't even rent one that they will let you work on your car in .
I'd kill to have a garage for once in my life . I'd say build what what you want for a change . You deserve something for yourself .

[Lord Warlock]

I can relate somewhat, for years I parked the charger in the main garage and my car next to it, the wife parked her car outside.  Over the years, she convinced me to refinance the house numerous times even though i didn't want to, i just wanted to pay it off.  Finally she started really ragging on how bad she needed to upgrade her kitchen, ours was outdated, not stylish at all, and needed a refurb, while i was in sync with her on this, I "negotiated" to allow a refinance again IF and only IF i could build a hobby garage out back.  Justification was two fold, the charger would have a place to be stored and she would finally be able to park inside the main garage, AND the addition of a 2 car structure in the backyard would increase the desirablility of our house over similarly styled houses in the neighborhood and increase our property values.  It did.  We are now the only house in the neighborhod with a 4 car garage storage, although several neighbors, once they realized what i did built external large sheds in their backyards as well.  (there are no code restrictions where i live, i could have built one to fill the entire backyard if i wanted.)  During the recent housing value crash, we suffered less than most did, the garage still makes the property value higher than most of the houses nearby.  I get about 20k extra value for the structure right now, when it was first built it added about an additional 45k to the value.  Ignore the wife's protest, if you plan on staying in the house through retirement, build what you want and deal with the angry wife later, she'll eventually get over it...or you can always upgrade her kitchen or the master bathroom.

Now, I have a two car garage out front attached to the house with both daily drivers parked in it, and a 2 car 24x27 foot garage in the backyard where i can store the charger and the stealth turbo (or other collected car).  The structure cost approximately 30k, the foundation was the biggest part of it at 7000 worth of concrete, it has the same outside panels that the house has and is painted to match externally, but it is built to a more modern hurricane code that the house doesn't conform to, if a cat 1 comes through, the garage will likely still be standing, the house will be long gone.

I strongly recommend adding 6 feet additional space on one side than the standard two car garage, that way you will have a sitting area and tool storage area.  If i could I would build an extension of 8 feet by 10 feet on one side for my man cave area.  I spend more time in that garage than i do in the house on weekends.  I also suspended two shelves starting at 5 feet up and 8 feet up to maximize floor space but provide a lot of storage above the cars roofs.  (rafters are at 11 feet to allow a lift should i ever decide to add one)

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

Anybody else get "grief" about their Car, even as the primary wage earner ?

No, and I buy more stuff all the time. Life is too short for those kind of "rules"

[ACUDANUT]

I'd pay $200 a month before I sold it. I'm in the position of looking to buy a house with enough space to hold my cars. I'm tempted to sell a few just to make life easier - but not ALL! I'm single though so I don't have to justify what I spend money on.

Troy

I am only charging 50.00 a month for a friends 69 Charger's storage.

[Daytona R/T SE]

I've never "asked" the old lady for anything.

If I've got the money...

I buy it.

If there's a loan involved, and I want her name on it like the last new truck I bought...

I tell her:

"You're going to need to come with me to sign some papers."

[Lord Warlock]

Its always easier to ask forgiveness than ask permission.  If you ask permission there is a 50% chance they'll say no.  I haven't been the primary breadwinner now for almost 15 years, but i still make all the big decisions.  You just have to pick your battles.  A garage is a battle worth the trouble ...unless she leaves you and then takes the house from you in the divorce.  I will say having the garage and toys inside makes you alot more willing to work out problems in the relationship.  As much as I'd like to run off and escape dealing with teenage girls, I sit out in the garage, look at the charger and realize that in 9 months that teen will be gone and i'll still have my car and my garage.  You can always bribe her with a nice new car to park in the front garage.  I got my wife a nice car long before i drove one equally nice. 

[don duick]

I knocked up a temporary shed for $700 to cover my charger then I put a temporary extension on it for another $500 to cover my second charger then I put another temporary extension at the back of it to fit my parts. This pile of Sh#@ has now sat in my back yard for 17 years

[gers1968rt]

Make a list of the positives of having the garage and then sit down and talk with her and let her know that this is very important and just try to win her over. If she still says no, then do it again and again and again.

[bakerhillpins]

I must be in the minority with this kind of thing. My wife and I don't need to ask each other for permission to buy anything, we get it if we want it. Period. Typically these are not big purchases and it's really not an issue budget wise. We do, however, always involve the other when we individually feel that it will have an impact on the family. Whether that be financial or otherwise. I stress that this discussion isn't a requirement, we just do it. I suppose it's just a situation of trust that the other is always considering the family's position in their decisions.

And I will say that I have never been actively denied any request but there are situations where I was asked to reconsider my position or at the worst postpone the purchase until some money has been put aside. Ok, That's not entirely true, she has flat out said no a few times but in each and every one of these situations she has come back to me within a day and said that she was sorry and that if I wanted to do this that she would support the process to make it happen.

Granted I make a fuss about not being able to bring home every car I drool over saying "that the wife would kick me out". Who hasn't? But in reality I know that bringing home these cars (or other toys/stuff) isn't in the best interest of our family at the moment and that's a decision I made.

[Troy]

I'd pay $200 a month before I sold it. I'm in the position of looking to buy a house with enough space to hold my cars. I'm tempted to sell a few just to make life easier - but not ALL! I'm single though so I don't have to justify what I spend money on.

Troy

I am only charging 50.00 a month for a friends 69 Charger's storage.

I typically pay less than $50 per car for storage too - but neither one of us lives where he does.

Troy

[Challenger340]

So another question.... what do you guys think about "outside" covered shelter for these old Cars ?
I could add a "Wing" off the side of the Shop ?
The Charger would be exposed to more of the seasonal Temperature & Humidity changes ??
but,
as long as no Sun beating on it in Summer, or Rain / Snow in Winter.... would it "Store" adequately ? or should it be Heated and Inside PERIOD ?
Any Opinions ?
Any done this over time ?

I guess I answered my own question... Heated, Inside BEST.... but outside & covered OK, and FAR better than selling ?
I mean....
I almost wish the Charger wasn't in such a well preserved original state ? I must sound like an idiot I know... but I wouldn't feel so bad leaving it outside if it was more of a beater ? The fawking thing deserves better !

[Troy]

I don't think most people have heated garages. Some may have residual heat if it's attached to the house. Honestly, if you live in any kind of humidity you might be better off without heat! I leave the heat low in my garage unless I'm in there working. Temperature change causes moisture in the air to evaporate/condense. Naturally, it's coldest by the floor (ie bottoms of the cars) and, with cars and shelves in the way, there are some areas with little air movement where moisture can collect. I really have to be careful about any sort of bare metal in a corner near the ground. I recently noticed that my exhaust tubing and extra iron heads that I hid in the corner were covered with surface rust! Same with the suspension on one of the cars parked in the back corner. However, heat is nice if you ever plan to spend any time in there working. I'd suggest leaving it at a constant temperature. Heated floors are awesome if you're building from scratch!

Car covers in any area where they can be blown by the wind are evil! If you leave it outside you might as well leave it uncovered - but then the sun destroys all the rubber and vinyl. You'll never see a well preserver "survivor that wasn't stored inside. Even an unheated, unsealed barn.

Check with your insurance - if you have any sort of stated value classic car policy it may state that you have to store it in a locked building. Carports and lean-tos don't count!

Troy

[ACUDANUT]

These insurance companies never inspect where the car is stored. It would next to impossible to check.

[Troy]

These insurance companies never inspect where the car is stored. It would next to impossible to check.

Who cares if they check? If it gets stolen from your yard they can deny the claim based on the police report.

Troy

[Old Moparz]

What kinds of interests or hobbies does your wife have? Would she like a work room of her own for crafts, collections or sewing? What about a large potting shed or green house? Even a large storage area so she could free up a room in the house to turn into a space she'll use for a hobby. Incorporate some of her interests in the building & present it as a space for both of you. It would not be difficult to have one building for two completely different uses. Build a loft or a second floor or just a longer or wider building with a partition & separate entrance. Make a list of all the positive things you will both get out of the additional space & include the increase in value.

Marriage is a compromise & there should be no "asking permission" from either side to do something, or make a purchase. Bigger decisions & purchases should involve both parties, or there will be a permanent wedge driven between the both of you. What good is getting one thing you want if all other facets of your life are going to suck? Yeah, it'll be really cool to go ahead & build a big garage for your Charger, just make sure you enjoy sleeping on the sofa. You don't want to sell the Charger now, but when her divorce lawyer needs to get paid you'll be writing one of those desperate for sale ads.   

[HeavyFuel]

I had to put up with grief from the ol' lady during the most of the resto on my car.  C'mon, it only took like 7 years!   She likes to call it "that hunk of metal".

I wouldn't ever go without a garage.  When we were house shopping about 15 years ago, we passed up on many nice houses that only had a two stall garage.....I had to have the 3rd, so the Charger had a place to live.


Get the garage!

[ACUDANUT]

I knocked up a temporary shed for $700 to cover my charger then I put a temporary extension on it for another $500 to cover my second charger then I put another temporary extension at the back of it to fit my parts. This pile of Sh#@ has now sat in my back yard for 17 years

Any shelter is better than no shelter.

[ACUDANUT]

These insurance companies never inspect where the car is stored. It would next to impossible to check.

Who cares if they check? If it gets stolen from your yard they can deny the claim based on the police report.

Troy

Not if you claim it was stolen from a garage.

[Troy]

These insurance companies never inspect where the car is stored. It would next to impossible to check.

Who cares if they check? If it gets stolen from your yard they can deny the claim based on the police report.

Troy

Not if you claim it was stolen from a garage.

And what do you say when the police ask where the garage is? The thieves took that too? Risking a felony isn't it? (Insurance fraud, lying to the police, etc.)

Troy

[ACUDANUT]

LOL, I was not being serious.

[Troy]

LOL, I was not being serious.

Ah, well just trying to avoid seeing another sob story thread...

Troy

[Tilar]

My third wife talked me into trading my 72 SE Brougham for a LeBaron Convertible she wanted which I regretted within just a few days. Then she tried to "tell" me to sell my 68 Charger. My response "I had this car long before you got here, it will be here long after you're gone. She's been gone for soon to be 19 years and I still have my 68 Charger.

[BrianShaughnessy]

These Amish barn places around here advertise basic 1 car garages for under $5K delivered.       10 or 12 x 20 should be ok?      They have a wood floor or you could pour a concrete pad.   I'm sure they're in your area too.

[Sublime/Sixpack]

Build the garage you want!  
Build it nice enough so it works for you and you're able to enjoy it. BUT DON'T BUILD IT SO NICE THAT THE WIFE WILL WANT TO SPEND TIME IN IT.
Because if you do you'll find Cry baby dolls propped against your car bumpers, dainty linen in the restroom (plus feminine supplies), decorations hanging from everything a month prior to even the least of holidays, quaint framed needle work pictures on the walls, artificial greenery on shelves, knitted covers on the handles of your power tools, etc., etc., etc.
 

[Dreamcar]

Whatever you do, don't let her see your rant that's now on the internet!

[HeavyFuel]

My third wife talked me into trading my 72 SE Brougham for a LeBaron Convertible she wanted which I regretted within just a few days. Then she tried to "tell" me to sell my 68 Charger. My response "I had this car long before you got here, it will be here long after you're gone. She's been gone for soon to be 19 years and I still have my 68 Charger.

Your third wife has been gone for 19 years?! 

I'm afraid to ask, how many wives have you gone through?   

[Tilar]

Oh just 3.  

[TPR]

Am I the odd one out?
My wife wants to move to a bigger property so that we can have a bigger garage to fit the '70 Challenger she wants.
She is awesome.
TPR

[Lord Warlock]

I don't recommend temporary structures,  when i was younger, I bought an aluminum framed tent (quanset hut look) with thick vinyl tarp cover for about 600.00, it was 20x12, and it did protect the car from most of the elements/ sun/wind/rain, but it sat on grass in the yard, which promptly died, then the rats moved in and made a house inside the car.  I was constantly trapping rats and finding corpses inside the car.  Even after i cleared all the dried corpses out the car reeked of rat urine and feces, wasn't until i removed the headliner that i found out why, they made the headliner their toilet area and it was filled with rat turds. I will NEVER consider a similar solution.  Also the moisture and humidity would seep up from the ground and the drum brakes rusted which locked up the wheels in the back.  Of course if i occasionally moved the car that wouldn't have happened.  Around 8 to 9 years of storage, the cover on top split down the middle of the roof, and I took it down and gave up on the endeavor.  I moved the charger to the front garage and parked it there until I could build the backyard garage shown on page 1. 

If you intend to stay married long term, you do have to "discuss" any large expenditures or it will cause a wedge that will drive the relationship apart.  I've been married for 29 years, and we dated 7 years before marriage.  Thats why I encourage selling the idea of a home improvement while giving her something she wants done.  Like now, we still need to do other improvements to the house, including two bathrooms that both need to be repaired and updated, I'll incorporate some of my wants and she'll get some of hers, I'll get a whirlpool deep tub, she'll get fancy tile and flooring.  The guest bath will just get basic updates. 

A temporary structure is better than no structure, but it isn't a solution unless you add a raised wood platform to get off the dirt/grass and can keep rodents out of it.  A permanent garage is a much better solution if you truly intend to keep the charger for a long time. 

[GordonGriggs]

 
I say build a garage if you have the room. I just had a 2 car garage at my other house and needed more room. There was no more room to build their so I bought another house with a 2 car garage. I keep 2 charger's here, and 1 charger at my old house. Still got 1 garage bay left open. Guess Ill have to eventually buy another charger so the space won't go to waste.

[Tilar]

Ohh, I know! Tell her that you will add a kitchen to the new garage so she can spend time with you out there! 


Be sure to record the fireworks after you say that, I wanna see it.     

[boys3rt]

30 years ago when we bought our current house, there was a two floor 28 x 50 detached barn (5 years old) that went with the property. She was pregnant with our 1st at the time and I said we are buying  a nice garage with a detached house. I told her that if we went thru with this it would take some years to do upgrades to the house. She always supported this and she did get her upgrades some years later. The one battle that I ever had was getting a shed. She would say you have your big garage what do you need a shed for? As stated earlier thru many postings a happy wife is a happy life so I backed off. I still have my garage and cars and I'm thankful for that.

Hope you get your garage no matter what you have it's awesome.

Good Luck

[HeavyFuel]

Am I the odd one out?
My wife wants to move to a bigger property so that we can have a bigger garage to fit the '70 Challenger she wants.
She is awesome.
TPR

You suck.