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Started by 1974dodgecharger, January 21, 2014, 06:09:54 AM

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1974dodgecharger

About power  ::)

My buddy saw my video on facebook and told him what I got (300HP, 383ft-lbs) and he private messages and tells me, "Not to be a DICK, but I would be embarrased with those numbers posting them for people to see publicly'  I was like, "Its not bad I thought it was good thats to the wheels remember that thats not some made up number.'  He responds, 'My 09 mustang produces 350hp with 400ft lbs of torque I added a cold air intake and exhaust so it gives more than stock.'  Then I respond, 'you sure about what you have and thats to the wheels and did you dyno it?"

His last response was, 'NO I did not dyno it, but I did read Road and Track testing on it and they said the V8 mustang gives 300HP and with me adding the CAI and exhaust that bumps it up 50hps because the box said for my CAI up to 30hp and exhaust 20hp'

After this I giggled he responded back with reading about road and track about his cars HP which is not even to the wheels and then adds in the, "i read what I added and totaled up the HP from there'

WOW, didnt know people still acted this way.... :icon_smile_big: ::)


He said one more thing to me, "can you even burn out in that car since your such low HP/TQ and its so big.....

Cooter

First off, I've found FB is checked full of automotive idiots. Very few even know anything bout cars, making power, or what the REAL term of 'Street Car' means.
they usually have the "majority" thinking the idiotic way they do, so you are fighting an uphill battle.
last one I got into was with Murder Nova and how his minion followers kept saying they were street cars.
Some people will act like Sheeple and blindly follow while others will refuse, and attempt to 'show the light'
Your buddy there is a blind follower of the car stupid. He has chosen the be a low info. Idiot.
you can try, but 've prepared to have them think of you there, the way many think of me here. It's not very popular when you prove you  know more than the idiots your arguing with. Some will even support the wrong, just so you won't have the satisfaction of them knowing your right.
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

Baldwinvette77

Just do what i do, tell people you got 240hp or so, even if you have like 500,  :coolgleamA:

1974dodgecharger

He got to me under my skin for like 20mins of this and I couldnt understand how a grown man could think like this  :scratchchin: but he was blatanly serious about it.  At first I wanted to educate him about power to wheels vs engine power, but he was not having it then I just gave up and said forget it.  :brickwall:
Quote from: Cooter on January 21, 2014, 06:18:04 AM
First off, I've found FB is checked full of automotive idiots. Very few even know anything bout cars, making power, or what the REAL term of 'Street Car' means.
they usually have the "majority" thinking the idiotic way they do, so you are fighting an uphill battle.
last one I got into was with Murder Nova and how his minion followers kept saying they were street cars.
Some people will act like Sheeple and blindly follow while others will refuse, and attempt to 'show the light'
Your buddy there is a blind follower of the car stupid. He has chosen the be a low info. Idiot.
you can try, but 've prepared to have them think of you there, the way many think of me here. It's not very popular when you prove you  know more than the idiots your arguing with. Some will even support the wrong, just so you won't have the satisfaction of them knowing your right.

Ghoste

You can ignore it, because Cooter is 100% right, or you can lie and put 785 on your fb page.
If you do want to make the attempt to educate your friend.  Dare him publicly to take his car to the dyno and make a bet out of it.  For every hp over 350 at the rear wheels you'll give him 2 bucks and for every increment below his prediction he has to give you 1.

6spd68

Quote from: Ghoste on January 21, 2014, 07:42:59 AM
You can ignore it, because Cooter is 100% right, or you can lie and put 785 on your fb page.
If you do want to make the attempt to educate your friend.  Dare him publicly to take his car to the dyno and make a bet out of it.  For every hp over 350 at the rear wheels you'll give him 2 bucks and for every increment below his prediction he has to give you 1.

That, or tell him to man up and meet you at the track... :Twocents:
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tan top

Cooters right  :yesnod: :2thumbs: 
I gave up years ago trying to argue with idiots !

never argue with a idiot , because it makes you look the bigger one trying to explain the error they are making  :Twocents:
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Ghoste

Thats why I say don't argue, challenge him to the bet.  If he doesn't accept, the only response is a smug smile and a "whatever".

myk

This is why I don't have Facebook, this is why I don't have friends; with people like friends, who needs enemies?  I don't recommend such a drastic move in your life, but clearly this boy and his little pony car has to go...

dyslexic teddybear

Gotta agree with Cooter.....

All arguing with an idiot will do is give you a headache.

It's certainly not new......a couple from "back in the day"

"He's got a 327 Camaro bored out to 500 HP."

From the owner of a 67 GTO......with a dual gate shifter....."It's got a 6 speed"

Lost count of the number of people who talked about a "3/4" cam......not even understanding what any cam was and or it's function.

Never thought about it.....but I suppose that a more modern version of the above is "noss"


Ghoste


dyslexic teddybear

Quote from: Ghoste on January 21, 2014, 12:31:32 PM
Noss.  :brickwall: :brickwall:



Never before.....has so many....knew so little.


My son-in-law is into tuners......[sigh]....seriously, it's painful to talk to him.

Though there's some hope.....lately he's been asking a few questions that shows he's starting to understand how nitrous actually works......







myk

Quote from: dyslexic teddybear on January 21, 2014, 12:30:36 PM
Gotta agree with Cooter.....

All arguing with an idiot will do is give you a headache.

It's certainly not new......a couple from "back in the day"

"He's got a 327 Camaro bored out to 500 HP."

From the owner of a 67 GTO......with a dual gate shifter....."It's got a 6 speed"

Lost count of the number of people who talked about a "3/4" cam......not even understanding what any cam was and or it's function.

Never thought about it.....but I suppose that a more modern version of the above is "noss"



Guy comes up the other day and goes "hey, you gotta long block or a short block in there?"  I told him he meant to ask big block or small block but he insisted that I either had a long block or a short block.  Well, I just told him I had a complete block; no point arguing or debating with the clueless...

1974dodgecharger

Well he is my childhood friend. He texted me saying it seems very weak to your being that size. I repied , you dont know cars that well do u.  He got pissed and was like, wtf are u talking about 300hps is weak in comparsion, again, to my mustang. 

I just said very few cars are driving around with 300hp with 385ft lbs of torque to the wheels, ofcourse he came back again and said his 09 mustang......lol

twodko

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myk

Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on January 21, 2014, 02:49:24 PM
Well he is my childhood friend. He texted me saying it seems very weak to your being that size. I repied , you dont know cars that well do u.  He got pissed and was like, wtf are u talking about 300hps is weak in comparsion, again, to my mustang. 

I just said very few cars are driving around with 300hp with 385ft lbs of torque to the wheels, ofcourse he came back again and said his 09 mustang......lol

Psh.  It took Ford decades after the 60's to put 300 hp back in the Mustang GT; GM had 300hp Camaro's and F-birds since '98 (10 years before your friend's car) that would run door to door with your friend, and the '93-'97's would be right behind your friend's bumper;  pre-5.0 Mustang GT people have NOTHING to brag about...

RECHRGD

I know for a fact that my 440 makes over 700hp.  I added up my base hp plus what my heads, cam, rpm intake, carb body, headers, ignition, high flow air cleaner and free flowing mufflers added.  When the idiot Dyno guy said I had only 340 or so at wheels, I had no choice but to shoot him....
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1974dodgecharger

Quote from: RECHRGD on January 21, 2014, 03:15:38 PM
I know for a fact that my 440 makes over 700hp.  I added up my base hp plus what my heads, cam, rpm intake, carb body, headers, ignition, high flow air cleaner and free flowing mufflers added.  When the idiot Dyno guy said I had only 340 or so at wheels, I had no choice but to shoot him....


Ok that shit made me laugh........

will

Get me a JC Whitney catalog, I'll be making 1000 HP and getting 100 MPG by the time I get throgh with that catalog. Best kept speed secrets are on page 11! :icon_smile_big:

DAY CLONA

Quote from: RECHRGD on January 21, 2014, 03:15:38 PM
I know for a fact that my 440 makes over 700hp.  I added up my base hp plus what my heads, cam, rpm intake, carb body, headers, ignition, high flow air cleaner and free flowing mufflers added.  When the idiot Dyno guy said I had only 340 or so at wheels, I had no choice but to shoot him....




......

John L

Quote from: tan top on January 21, 2014, 11:24:10 AM
Cooters right  :yesnod: :2thumbs: 
I gave up years ago trying to argue with idiots !

never argue with a idiot , because it makes you look the bigger one trying to explain the error they are making  :Twocents:

I would have to agree with Tan Top and Cooter, but here is a better reason not to argue with an idiot:

Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with their experience.

XH29N0G

Quote from: dyslexic teddybear on January 21, 2014, 12:34:43 PM
My son-in-law is into tuners......[sigh]....seriously, it's painful to talk to him.
Though there's some hope.....lately he's been asking a few questions that shows he's starting to understand how nitrous actually works......


Do you mean questions about the nitrous button that we can hit with our left foot?  Mine doesn't seem to work.
Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

Mopar4me

Put a pair of fart cannons on and you should be up to 500HP. They're worth a 100 a piece aren't they?  :icon_smile_big:

69rtse4spd

Quote from: will on January 21, 2014, 04:08:46 PM
Get me a JC Whitney catalog, I'll be making 1000 HP and getting 100 MPG by the time I get throgh with that catalog. Best kept speed secrets are on page 11! :icon_smile_big:

Damn, I thought you & I were the only ones that knew about page 11. Cats out of the bag now.