News:

It appears that the upgrade forces a login and many, many of you have forgotten your passwords and didn't set up any reminders. Contact me directly through helpmelogin@dodgecharger.com and I'll help sort it out.

Main Menu

8 1/2 rear end?

Started by MagnumForce, January 14, 2014, 02:21:01 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

MagnumForce

Has anyone ever heard of a 8 1/2, 10 bolt posi rear? I am pretty sure mopar didnt make it and after looking online i think it's GM, which makes me wonder what its doing in a charger... Not sure if i should replace it because i am putting in a 440 stroker pretty soon. 
If You Ain't First, You're Last!!

cdr

LINK TO MY STORY http://www.onallcylinders.com/2015/11/16/ride-shares-charlie-keel-battles-cancer-ms-to-build-brilliant-1968-dodge-charger/  
                                                                                           
68 Charger 512 cid,9.7to1,Hilborn EFI,Home ported 440 source heads,small hyd roller cam,COLD A/C ,,a518 trans,Dana 60 ,4.10 gear,10.93 et,4100lbs on street tires full exhaust daily driver
Charger55 by Charlie Keel, on Flickr

chargd72

Are you sure it's not a 10 bolt 8 1/4?

          '72 Charger SE 4bbl 318                          '76 Power Wagon 400 W200                                 2011 (attempt at a) Charger

A383Wing

GM did have an 8.5"...but a picture is worth a thousand guesses here

MagnumForce

Here it is. If needed i'll post another
If You Ain't First, You're Last!!

A383Wing

what year is this in?

my 70 had a 8.25" stock....

Chrysler had 7.25", 8.25", both had rear covers like your picture...

Kern Dog

My 70 also had an 8 1/4 axle that had a 10 bolt cover like in the picture.
POSI ? Yeah.... that is a Chevy rear end for certain!    :lol:

MagnumForce

Its in a 69 and i don't know why its in the car.  :-\ Is it worth it to take it out because of the 600 hp engine that is soon going in the car? In the future i will put a different one in regardless but for the time being will this one hold?
If You Ain't First, You're Last!!

Troy

600 HP? If you get it to hook you'll obliterate an 8 3/4" so I'd say that one won't last long at all. Run street radials on the street with an automatic and highway gears and it might hold up. I'd be planning a replacement sooner rather than later.

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

War wagon

A true 600hp or more requires either a seriously built aftermarket diff like the nodular moser or a seriously built Dana 60 . Otherwise you WILL be picking up pieces in short order...
Just sayin :Twocents:
I wouldn't leave that diff you have in with even a stock big block, it's meant for a NO TORQUE small block

MagnumForce

Ok i figured it wouldn't be enough, i will see about selling it while its still intact. The car will be running on street radials and 3.55's. Ill try and find a used Dana rear. Will it need much beefing up? Or would it be enough stock?
If You Ain't First, You're Last!!

cudaken


Stock Dana will hold up for sometime depending on traction.

With some work, a 8 3/4 will hold up well. They are by far cheaper and I think weight 200 pounds less. :scratchchin:  But, if you have to have a extra 200 pounds, over the rear wheels is where you want it.  :2thumbs:

Is this a driver or race car?

Cuda Ken
I am back

Kern Dog

The Dana has had the reputation of being a porker of an axle but in reality, it weighs only 75-80 lbs more than an 8 3/4" axle. Hot Rod magazine dispelled the myth in the late 90s after swapping axles and weighing the car afterward.

cudaken


Hum, thought it was heaver. But I still bet it would cost 2 X as much.

I am back

Cooter

Caution....
the only thing your gaining with a stock Dana 60 over an 8 3/4 is ring and pinion strength.
axles are the same, and the weak link.
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

War wagon

 :Twocents:
Put a Dana with 35 spline axles, problem solved ;)
Every High horsepower car I know of personally runs a Dana 60. Eventually with enough power everyone ends up with one if they keep at it long enough lol
Repeated wknd warrior track use and a 8 3/4 rear ends = Dana 60 in the future  :smilielol:
I watched my father scatter one many years ago with a mild 440, they do work.... They just don't work over time if you plan on making a habit of beating on it. Especially with Slicks

Properly built Dana will last for years and years of repeated abuse on the street and strip :Twocents: