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What percentage of 68 R/Ts were 3x black??

Started by xs29bb1, December 30, 2013, 12:28:08 AM

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xs29bb1

I know the exact figures aren't known, but I figured it was worth a shot.  According to the 70 Registry, 4.3% of the R/Ts were black.  I'll conservatively assume a higher percentage of 68s were black - say 6-8%.  Then you've got roughly 75% of 68 R/Ts w/ vinyl tops at all... dropping the number to 4-6% (and that's assuming every vinyl top of a black car was also black), and then maybe 80% of those cars had the black interior? 

That puts it at 3-5%.  Does that seem reasonable? 

fy469rtse

And how many of those black ones were fitted with the hemi ? 5 maybe

1974dodgecharger


tan top

don't think there is anyway of  making  a calculated guess ,  except there are prolly more green &  bronze &   blue  68s   than any other color  :scratchchin: :shruggy:
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Dans 68

Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on December 30, 2013, 07:08:18 AM
how many were hemi 4 speed with air?

No '68 Charger R/T 4-speeds were ever available with A//C. If you wanted a big block 4-spd with A/C get an XP.  ;)

Dan
1973 SE 400 727  1 of 19,645                                        1968 383 4bbl 4spds  2 of 259

Daytona R/T SE

Quote from: Cooter on December 30, 2013, 07:27:49 AM

No 426 hemi EVER  came with A/C....
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:scratchchin: ;)



Troy

I doubt the percentage of black cars was that much higher in 1968. "Earth tones" were all the rage back then so there were lots of various greens and tan/gold/bronze but very few red or black. I've only owned one factory black 68 and it had a white vinyl top and white interior. I only know of one other like that and only one with a white top and black interior so it's a very small percentage. I bet the majority had black interior and a large percentage had a black vinyl top.

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

xs29bb1

Thanks for the info guys.  I've seen a few black cars w/ white interiors, and one w/ a white top.  Of course if the black cars were like the rest, about a quarter of them came w/ no vinyl top at all.

Interesting that the earth tones and greens were so popular back then.

I was definitely surprised to see that only about 4% of the 1970 R/Ts were black - I'd have figured it would be more.  If the same percentage of 68s were black, then it might only be 2-3% triple black -  a lot less than I would have thought.

According to the 68 Charger Models & Prices brochure, no Hemi car could get A/C  (manual or auto), and if you had a 440 with a manual, you couldn't get it either - meaning the only R/T that could get A/C had to have a 440 auto.  (It also says a 383 w/ the 2-bbl could not get A/C either)

BB14404SPD

I wonder what percent where triple black with stripe delete.

xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: BB14404SPD on December 30, 2013, 12:18:44 PM
I wonder what percent where triple black with stripe delete.

Triple Black / Hemi / "319" stripe delete...

After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

Troy

Quote from: xs29bb1 on December 30, 2013, 11:55:33 AM
Thanks for the info guys.  I've seen a few black cars w/ white interiors, and one w/ a white top.  Of course if the black cars were like the rest, about a quarter of them came w/ no vinyl top at all.

Interesting that the earth tones and greens were so popular back then.

I was definitely surprised to see that only about 4% of the 1970 R/Ts were black - I'd have figured it would be more.  If the same percentage of 68s were black, then it might only be 2-3% triple black -  a lot less than I would have thought.

According to the 68 Charger Models & Prices brochure, no Hemi car could get A/C  (manual or auto), and if you had a 440 with a manual, you couldn't get it either - meaning the only R/T that could get A/C had to have a 440 auto.  (It also says a 383 w/ the 2-bbl could not get A/C either)
Be careful how you interpret that last bit! It's still referring to 4-speed cars. Most of the 383 2bbl cars I've seen (and owned) have had A/C.

And where have you seen these black 68s with white interiors? Were they factory black? I'd love to find more!

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

BB14404SPD

Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on December 30, 2013, 02:20:40 PM
Quote from: BB14404SPD on December 30, 2013, 12:18:44 PM
I wonder what percent where triple black with stripe delete.

Triple Black / Hemi / "319" stripe delete...



Mine is Triple Black / 440 / 4 spd with 319

BB14404SPD

Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on December 30, 2013, 02:20:40 PM
Quote from: BB14404SPD on December 30, 2013, 12:18:44 PM
I wonder what percent where triple black with stripe delete.

Triple Black / Hemi / "319" stripe delete...



Is that your car with Dick L next to him. I always wondered whose car that was. I just to work next to his shop in Northridge Ca.

xs29bb1

Quote from: Troy on December 30, 2013, 02:38:46 PM
Be careful how you interpret that last bit! It's still referring to 4-speed cars. Most of the 383 2bbl cars I've seen (and owned) have had A/C.

And where have you seen these black 68s with white interiors? Were they factory black? I'd love to find more!

Troy


Yeah I interpreted the last part incorrectly.  It reads N.A. w/ 426 Hemi; w/383 2-bbl. or 440 Magnum when equipped w/ 4-spd manual trans.

I took the . after 2-bbl to mean NA w/ 426 Hemi or 383 2-bbl, but it seems they're a bit liberal w/ their use of the .  

As far as the black 68 w/ white interior, I saw one that went to Norway.  It's not an R/T though.  I saw it when I was looking for a car early last year.

I was able to dig up the link:  http://bringatrailer.com/2010/06/18/bat-success-story-1968-dodge-charger-to-norway/

Not sure if that's the original color combo...... EDIT:  I just read the last few comments and a guy claims to know this exact car and says that it was originally bronze, so I guess scratch that....  Car looks great though.


xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: BB14404SPD on December 30, 2013, 03:01:36 PM
Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on December 30, 2013, 02:20:40 PM
Quote from: BB14404SPD on December 30, 2013, 12:18:44 PM
I wonder what percent where triple black with stripe delete.

Triple Black / Hemi / "319" stripe delete...



Is that your car with Dick L next to him. I always wondered whose car that was. I just to work next to his shop in Northridge Ca.

Yes, that is my Hemi Charger with Dick Landy at the 1988 Cowtown Mopar RoundUp in Fort Worth, Texas...
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

BB14404SPD

I have always wondered about the additional tags on my fender tag. I decoded the tag but never could figure out what the 16 means.

Troy

Quote from: BB14404SPD on December 30, 2013, 10:17:19 PM
I have always wondered about the additional tags on my fender tag. I decoded the tag but never could figure out what the 16 means.
What 16? Nice car by the way!

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

BB14404SPD

Thanks, the lil tag on the top right of the fender tag has a 16 stamped on it.

FastbackJon

Quote from: BB14404SPD on December 31, 2013, 12:13:56 AM
Thanks, the lil tag on the top right of the fender tag has a 16 stamped on it.

If it is the X1 and Y6 codes you are talking about (note the upper case) and if the codes are like in '67, then X1 = tinted glass (all windows) and Y6 = black vinyl top.
"This was the dedication of the altar, in the day when it was anointed, by the princes of Israel: twelve chargers of silver, twelve silver bowls, twelve spoons of gold..." -- Numbers 7:84 KJV




Troy

You mean the two additional shiny metal tags under the top screw holes? That, I have no idea about. I had a long metal strip attached to my Challenger. I was told they were supposed to be removed (probably just clipped off) after assembly. What you see might be the remnants of something like that.

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

BB14404SPD

Quote from: Troy on January 01, 2014, 09:01:15 AM
You mean the two additional shiny metal tags under the top screw holes? That, I have no idea about. I had a long metal strip attached to my Challenger. I was told they were supposed to be removed (probably just clipped off) after assembly. What you see might be the remnants of something like that.

Troy


Yes that is the 16 I was referring to. The smaller tag attached by the left screw does not have anything on it.

rarefish

I have heard that those added small tags to the fender tag were production line inspector tags.  Maybe??
Also,  xs29j8Bullitt ,  I see that your 3x black Hemi car, is a buddy seat auto on the column.  Very cool.. :cheers:

FastbackJon

Quote from: rarefish on January 01, 2014, 01:47:35 PM
I have heard that those added small tags to the fender tag were production line inspector tags.  Maybe??
Also,  xs29j8Bullitt ,  I see that your 3x black Hemi car, is a buddy seat auto on the column.  Very cool.. :cheers:

And the u1 means that someone ordered it that way.
"This was the dedication of the altar, in the day when it was anointed, by the princes of Israel: twelve chargers of silver, twelve silver bowls, twelve spoons of gold..." -- Numbers 7:84 KJV




rarefish

Quote from: FastbackJon on January 01, 2014, 02:45:41 PM
Quote from: rarefish on January 01, 2014, 01:47:35 PM
I have heard that those added small tags to the fender tag were production line inspector tags.  Maybe??
Also,  xs29j8Bullitt ,  I see that your 3x black Hemi car, is a buddy seat auto on the column.  Very cool.. :cheers:

And the u1 means that someone ordered it that way.

You are correct...    An interesting fact was that the buddy seat option and the console option both cost the same $52.85  So when a buddy seat was ordered by someone. They clearly had a reason to want one.

BB14404SPD

Quote from: rarefish on January 01, 2014, 01:47:35 PM
I have heard that those added small tags to the fender tag were production line inspector tags.  Maybe??
Also,  xs29j8Bullitt ,  I see that your 3x black Hemi car, is a buddy seat auto on the column.  Very cool.. :cheers:

I was looking over my broadcast sheet and the only 16 I found are the Steel wheels....Maybe they made sure they got put on?

BB14404SPD


Dans 68

1973 SE 400 727  1 of 19,645                                        1968 383 4bbl 4spds  2 of 259

BB14404SPD


Dans 68

1973 SE 400 727  1 of 19,645                                        1968 383 4bbl 4spds  2 of 259

daveco

Quote from: rarefish on January 01, 2014, 01:47:35 PM
I have heard that those added small tags to the fender tag were production line inspector tags.  Maybe??
Also,  xs29j8Bullitt ,  I see that your 3x black Hemi car, is a buddy seat auto on the column.  Very cool.. :cheers:

For a long time back in the 80s-90s Allen used to drive that car all over the place :cheers:
He started collecting awesome Mopars back when most people didn't even know what they were :o

(Same car show)
(Probably the same camera, lol)
R/Tree