what do you think of this '68?

[cavemanno1]

Looking for a charger and came across this eBay ad!Looks really good but something fishy.Says professional paint job and vinyl top but the pictures shows a rusty trunk floor and engine bay!Runs and drives like new but dirty engine bay
nice options tho,cruise,electric window but to me those mean nothing,rather have 4 speed anyday instead!

Still don't know what to look for on the bodywork where the bondo is or what is wrong with it!

What do you guys think of it?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-Dodge-Charger-Base-Hardtop-2-Door-6-3L-/201010973751?&pt=US_Cars_Trucks&autorefresh=true

[Indygenerallee]

Don't look bad but pics lie also, I would have figured they would have detailed the wheel wells out instead of leaving the primer overspray there! 

[myk]

Simple: they "resale-red'ed" the car, as in they had a car, sprayed it a couple of times to make it look pretty enough to sell to less discerning buyers.  That's not to say that the car overall isn't in good to great shape, but potential buyers should, as always, be aware of what they might be getting into...

[cavemanno1]

That's what i thought it just a qucik paintjob!The seller seems alright.said could view the car he is in St.Louis!

Got me the wanted pictures and that is what he asid about the dirty engine bay!


yes you can come see it I live in ofallon mo the engine compartment is dust due to the bodywork and paint job never got around to cleaning it back up the trunk pan was not replaced when floor pans were installed {by previous owner } the car is all solid except for trunk has a little rust it is a real nice car did you watch the you tube video

[cavemanno1]

can not upload the pictures,says same file exist but i have renamed the pictures!I'm sure it came up before but i1m too tired of searching for the answer for it!
Looks solid,no rust underneath tho!

By the way is there any member in St.Louis?

[myk]

That's what i thought it just a qucik paintjob!The seller seems alright.said could view the car he is in St.Louis!

Got me the wanted pictures and that is what he asid about the dirty engine bay!


yes you can come see it I live in ofallon mo the engine compartment is dust due to the bodywork and paint job never got around to cleaning it back up the trunk pan was not replaced when floor pans were installed {by previous owner } the car is all solid except for trunk has a little rust it is a real nice car did you watch the you tube video

I dunno; I would think that a quality-oriented body shop would insist on pulling the motor during their work.  Then again, if the objective is just to get the car sold then anything is possible.  The seller is at least welcome to people viewing the car; I would look at that as a positive sign...

[cavemanno1]

plus he sent me the asked pictures and not trying to hide anything 

[cudaken]

Cave Man, I live in Maryville IL. I am 14 miles from St Louis. When I first saw the Charger I thought it was one I did guess 10 years ago. Pm me the zip and I might be able to take a look.

Cuda Ken

[Indygenerallee]

One plus is the rear corners are not mudded over.

[nvrbdn]

would have liked to see underneath the car.


  it does look pretty clean.

[fy469rtse]

I have always looked under the hood, you can tell a lot from an original engine bay , dirty s ok in my book, it reveals the cars life , remember acrylic paint subjected to decades of heat and neglect, you get an honest view of car , now check for the usual rusty areas, but it looks like a reasonable car , always liked the 68's yes I know I have 69's and a 70 , believe me there growing on me

[cavemanno1]

Cave Man, I live in Maryville IL. I am 14 miles from St Louis. When I first saw the Charger I thought it was one I did guess 10 years ago. Pm me the zip and I might be able to take a look.

Cuda Ken

Hi cuda ken!

Thanks a lot mate!The seller sent some pictures underneath the car but having trouble to post it up here,said same name is existing but i have renamed the files twice

I will wait a couple of days to see how the auction goes because if it goes above 24k I'm out of the game and pretty sure it will go higher!

I will tell the guy someone might be coming to check the car out for me and get the zip code!Let me know how i can repay you for your trouble!

Thanks mate

[cavemanno1]

just checked the order list and the fender tag and can not find any matching number on them
The order list has a vehicle id.number and it says xp29-h88-300737.The fender tag says xp 29 62 5 53 227 081502.
Any thought on that?

[Ghoste]

The vin doesn't appear on a 68 tag just on the dash.  Do the so numbers match?

[cavemanno1]

The numbers on the dash are matching with the order list vehicle id numbers so it's good!

[cudaken]

 Peter, if your top bid is going to be 24K going to guess it will be a wasted trip.   If that car goes for less than 30K I will be stunned. But then again, you never know?  

Still call me Wednesday at the number I PM you to remind me to call the seller. All so at that time tell me your max bid. That way when I arrange a time to visit the seller I can tell him if the bid is over your max $ I will not be coming.

Far as how you can repay me?   Let me   drive it a few weeks!  

Here is the 68 I did 10 years ago.

URL=http://s83.photobucket.com/user/cudaken/media/1-desktop_zps3ee028a6.jpg.html]

If you look closely, you can see my 69 Charger in the reflection.

If it was not for the power windows and cruise control I would think it was the same car. Well, that and the 383 looked out standing and had a bigger cam than the one in the video.

Talk to you Wednesday Peter, Ken

[cavemanno1]

Thanks Ken!

120 mile roundtrip for you is way too farand i can not ask you to do that!Plus i know it will go higher so i would not bid on it again therefore i would waist your time!
It feels real good to think i could own that car even tho i know it won't be mine!If it wasn't for shipping,import tax and etc, i would go higher but.... 

Funny i never really cared for the '68s always favoured the '69s but lately they grow on my!Still the '69 has the best ass for sure

Thanks Ken again and Happy New Year!

[cavemanno1]

Peter, if your top bid is going to be 24K going to guess it will be a wasted trip.   If that car goes for less than 30K I will be stunned. But then again, you never know?  

Still call me Wednesday at the number I PM you to remind me to call the seller. All so at that time tell me your max bid. That way when I arrange a time to visit the seller I can tell him if the bid is over your max $ I will not be coming.

Far as how you can repay me?   Let me   drive it a few weeks!  

Here is the 68 I did 10 years ago.

URL=http://s83.photobucket.com/user/cudaken/media/1-desktop_zps3ee028a6.jpg.html]



If you look closely, you can see my 69 Charger in the reflection.

If it was not for the power windows and cruise control I would think it was the same car. Well, that and the 383 looked out standing and had a bigger cam than the one in the video.

Talk to you Wednesday Peter, Ken

WOW,got more pictures of this sexy girl?
I'm sure the guys woundn't mind seeing more of her!

[cudaken]

Well Peter, think it is going to break the 24K mark. 

Ken

[nvrbdn]

already over 24 with 3 days left.

[cavemanno1]

Yeah,it was my bid for 24k!The seller is a super nice guy and he sent me lots of pictures!New quarters,floor boards,engine trans redone by the last owner,professional paintjob!Shame i can't go any higher!

[68killerbee]

I live in ofallon mo. Pm me if anybody wants me to check it out for them and get more pics...

[tan top]

 don't look a bad car , from the pictures, although as we all know pictures can be deciving !  ,  don't think its the one CudaKen painted  
in that  picture CK posted  the doors are all stripped etc from what I can see ,   picture below shows over spary on rubber & painted door hardware , Why ? ( same both sides )  at least  scrape it off after if you cant be bothered to  take it all apart  , that's no biggie in its self , bit if corners have been cut  doing such a simple thing taking a few screws out &  removing a couple of  rubber bumpers &  etc  what else has been  done or not been done  , more you look , more little things you see not right weird shapes  , over spray etc  
still looks good / ok  from a distance & may well be a good car , & a hours work would put them things right

don't like pulling apart someone elses car really even ones forsale

[cudaken]

Sorry Peter, I think?  Not a fan of the car's leaving the US. I would have helped you just the same. Guess I am just a little greedy. 

Tan, did not take me long to know it was not Dave's Charger unless he died. Main thing was the power windows and no Beer Can's on the engine! 

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Far as the door rubber, stops and plugs yes that was removed. Screw's for the door latch?  I think I painted them? I am not a pro when it comes to restoring cars like you.

Cuda Ken

[cavemanno1]

Cuda Ken!

Understand you completely but i have no other choice!If it was up to me, I'd move out there but it's proving to be too difficult!
Don't want the car leave the States but i can't have one othervise!


Steve!
You could highlight the faults to me,that is why i ask you guys what you think of it!
Got screwed over a bit the last time so i have learned my lesson!

[Ghoste]

Some cars leave the States and some return, it's not a closed door. 

[tan top]

 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPESBp0q0dA

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[nvrbdn]

Steve!
You could highlight the faults to me,that is why i ask you guys what you think of it!
Got screwed over a bit the last time so i have learned my lesson!

  i know of the other car you purchased. i followed the purchase and all when it was posted on here. i remember that you guys wern't happy with certain details of the purchase.

  i guess my question to you would be : did you fare well enough on the sale of the last car to recoup the monies spent buying/shipping to not have a huge loss and then buy again, or would it have been better to invest in repairing the problem areas to bring the car up to your desires without acrueing more shipping costs?
   i understand that parts can be expensive over seas, and some might be just impossible to get.  good luck with this search.

[cavemanno1]

Nvrbdn!

We were lucky enough to get most of the money we spent on it!Wanted to make it right but things that needed were huge!Engine and trans were leaking and it was supposedly just rebuilt,needed new paint,new quarters and heck knows what else underneath the quarters,interior!So basically a complet restauration!
They didn't even checked the gas tank,it was full of mud.Changed 2 fullpump when we finally checked the gastank!How the fuck can someone claim it only needs interior just because it has brand new paint!The paint was full of sand particles,like it was painted in a sandstorm(not overexggarating),new suspension,brakes,rear end,windshield,new gastank needed!
We bought the gas tank,suspension and brake parts while on honeymoon in the States thanks to Moparsal who was kind enough to allow us to order everything to his address!Couldn't take the windshield on the plain so left it but took the gas tank on the plain!It only cost 40bucks extra but if we would have needed to ship it home it would have been a lot of money!

So if i knew what the car was like i would not ever buy it!The worst thing was that my childhood dream was shatered and i hated that car in the end!
They took pictures  on areas that were fine,never mentioned the cracked windshield and other faults despite  my request to list them!Rebuilt engines don't leak,do they!They even put the full filter after the fullpump!!!Even i know that you need the filter first then the pump!

I got so fed up with the whole thing i didn't even wanna remember it!
It was my dream to have a '69 charger on my wedding and i rushed into it fortunately!We were trying to bring her back to life for the wedding even the night before my wedding!I left the garage at 4am because we had our photographer coming at 10 am.My friends worked on it all night and in the morning at it was ready at 9am so we did drive it down to the photoshoot!They put a 20 litter plastic barrel in the trunk because the gas tank was full of mud.

Got back into bikes and bought a ducati but lately i started to miss her a lot!
The guy who bought it knew all the faults but didn't care he just wanted something that was whole!He had a '68 in bits and had 30 cars!Had a few restaurants in Vienna so he said and he was only my age ,31!He came to see me 3 times and every time he had a pornstar looking girl with him!

Wanted to immigrate to the States then buy a charger but it doesn't look like it's gonna happen so I'm after one now again!
Sorry if i bored you guys with my story!

[polywideblock]

did you get an inspection done on that car or just buy on the word of the seller ?

[cavemanno1]

Was stupid and didn't get an inspection on it!I believed the guy unfortunately,i know i shouldn't have!
I really wanted a car for the wedding so i rushed into it!
They told me it only needs interior and showed me videos driving it!But by the time it got here all the rust inside the tank got washed down to the bottom!
Didn't know what to look for like some of the guys here!

[polywideblock]

there are a few inspection companies out there or if cars near members try to get someone to look at it .   

          I didn't find this site till after I'd bought the charger ,I used    http://www.classiccarguy.com/appraisals.asp   $375 the first time and $350 after that for a 12 page report and heaps of HD pics    it cheap peace of mind     

            good luck in your search 

[cavemanno1]

Thanks mate!

I have learned my lesson,thanks for the link!I will use it next time if i find my car!

Here is a cool picture of it just to see how the daily drivers are overhere compare to the charger!

[JB400]

At the least, your passengers will enjoy the leg room in the back seat.  Horse power ought to make it a blast.  

The 69 looks 

[cavemanno1]

Wish i could drive it daily!Don't care too much about the legroom but the horespower 

[polywideblock]

have you done the multi level car park thing yet ? if not let me save you the hassle    DON'T   car parks are made for cars like the ones parked next to yours   very tight turns changing levels   just a nightmare   

[cavemanno1]

Wish i had a problem like that  because it would mean i have a charger!
No haven't done it but can imagine it being scary!

[cudaken]

Peter Said "Rebuilt engines don't leak,do they!

Peter, mine do!  Never could keep a rear seal from leaking?  But, ever time I drive it, it undercoat it self! 

Far as the fuel filter, they do go after the fuel pump.

If you happen to find one around St Louis again I be happy to take a look at it for you. 120 miles is not really that far round trip. Give me a little something for gas and my time and I be happy.

  Well, let me it for a week, or two. 

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By the way Peter, are you down under or in England?

Ken

[cavemanno1]

Thanks Ken,appreciate it!I thought the filter goes first to filter out any bits trying to get into the fule pump so the pump won't get clogged

Actually neither,I'm in Hungary but used to live in England!Got a baby 8 months ago and moved back home!

[nvrbdn]

well, i hope things work out this time for you. they are out there. and there are plenty of people around here to give you a hand at checking it out.

[cavemanno1]

Thanks,i'm sure it will work out this time!Don't have to rush into buying it and will get it inspected when i find one!

[fy469rtse]

 I think it's a good car, engine bays honest enough, A/C's been updated to modern, car was probably in good enough shape for a quick re spray,
New front seat covers, rear is original, maybe door trims are too, showing the typical sign of the glue letting go and wrinkles to ends ,also has the one year bright squares on map pockets, not too many guys change these if there just flipping it for a profit,  roof lining or hood lining original, new carpet fitted also, al the chrome and stainless in good shape , dash is in good shape, all panels are lined up reasonably

[fy469rtse]

It's got some nice options to it , power windows , cruise , a/c , if you look closely there's too much detail to items you can't get in those colors, in great shape, to me shows unrestored well looked after car with possibly one repaint , I know because I have a gold car to do and have started looking for all the trim, those upper door pads are in great condition,

[Homerr]

This is awesome!

[cavemanno1]

This is awesome!

Thanks,yeah these cars are not made for European roads!

It was the only '69 ever in the country so people stopped us to talk about it and even follwed us!Even then there was a guy who claimed his neighbour's son had it just like that but it was a 63 ford !
Only get positive feed back from people all age and gender!
Miss it so much to drive one of these cars and bust people balls when they ask me about mileage!Just told them all the time that I'm filthy rich and don't care about it!The shock and disgust on their face was priceless!

[cudaken]

Peter. here is a link to a classic car dealer that is with in 10 miles of me. Pick the St Louis show room.

http://www.gatewayclassiccars.com/search_result.php?sort=year&location=STL&make=Dodge&model=Charger

I have seen some real sweet cars there, turds and cars in between. Nice thing, no seating on the edge of your seat wondering if you are going to win the car.

Found this one on Crags list.
http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/4253558681.html

I know you hope for a turn key car with no body filler for $24k.  :scratchchin: I don't think that is going to happen.  :shruggy: 20 years ago, yes. Personally I don't think there is a thing wrong with body filler if the repair is done right. Mom wrecked my 68 Road Runner is 1969, body filler in the door is still fine.

If my money was better, I would go look at the one I posted. I rather buy one not done and do it my self than wonder how the work had been done.

Here is a link to St Louis Craigslist.

http://stlouis.craigslist.org/

You never know what might show up.

Ken

[cavemanno1]

Thanks Ken!

Initially wanted a project just like you said.If i get i done at least i know the work is done on it right!The problem is i have no skill at bodywork or any car related fields so have to relay on a shop to do it!For now i just keep looking and see what comes up!

I like other cars as well like '67 gto which i have found for in my price range!
Will send it to you email,don't want this site to be "littered" with non mopars

Thanks again,

Peter

[cudaken]

Peter, use PM! I check my E Mail maybe every other month. 

A Goat?  Never seen there trail lights, just headlights fading in the rear view mirror.

Well, don't tell anyone.  I did a 1966 GTO 35 years ago.

Far as not knowing anything about cars and bodywork?  Neither did I, but I learned.

Ken

[cavemanno1]

Well i sent it already to your email address!So not a big fun of GTO's,huh?Well,guess you wouldn't mind THEM leaving the country,then?

[Tilar]

My dad had a 66 GTO that he traded for a 67 Ford Pickup.    I was 10 at the time loved that GTO. 389 with 3 deuces, a 4 gear and factory headers. The sound alone would give you a blue vein throbber.   

[nvrbdn]

i had a 67 gto. loved it. took it to several shows. got an offer i couldnt refuse while putting the charger together. they are nice cars about the same size as the chargers too.  and yes gateway does have alot of cars to look at. the wife and i go there quite often just to walk through the cars and look.

[cavemanno1]

Well a Gto has some charger features like sail panel,hideaway headlights,coke bottle body!How can you not like them?
But to each his own!

[JB400]

Well a Gto has some charger features like sail panel,hideaway headlights,coke bottle body!How can you not like them?
But to each his own!

But, you couldn't get all those features on the same GTO.  GM designers aren't that smart.

[cavemanno1]

That is true my friend!

I have just checked ebay and the guys who over bid me cancelled his bid so now I'm the highest bidder
Don't know if it's a good thing or a bad because i never thought to win this car and didn't even get it checked out!Still 11 hours to go so I'm sitting on the edge of my sofa.

So do you think it's good for 24k or too much?

[polywideblock]

compare it to what they would be trying to sell you for the same amount over there   , is it a good buy ?
     well documented seems to be all there great starting point for a driver /resto  .


                                       seems fate has stepped in     

[Ghoste]

But it would be nice to have boots on the ground look at it.

[nvrbdn]

well, 6 hours and some minutes to go. its a shame you didnt get someone to eyeball it in person, but usually someone that is openly willing to have people come in person will be a bit more honest.

   the car looks to be in nice shape. as long as it starts and stops as good as it looks, i think you will be golden.   good luck.

[myk]

But it would be nice to have boots on the ground look at it.

Not being able to inspect the car and maybe even flog it, as I did with mine when I was buying it, would be a deal-breaker for me.  I'd hate for the 'OP to go through the agony of waiting out an ebay auction, only to finally get the car and be disappointed with it for some reason.  In some ways it's unfortunate that this is how rare and wanted these cars have become...

[cavemanno1]

Well had someone who knows what he is doing looked at the pictures and suggested to look for an other car!The little and simple things were not done on the car so who knows how many corners they have cut
The seller is a top notch guy,friendly and cooperative.He said he did the quarters himself because he works in the industry.Questionable things were the trunk panel,floors were replaced so why not the trunk if he is a body man

Would not buy again without someone knowledgeable seeing it in person!Nice car the looks of it and nice options but if they go wrong big bucks to fix i think!

Hope it will sell well for the owner just because he is a nice fella!

Thanks everyone for their input!

[cavemanno1]

it's gone for 27,900 dollar!

[nvrbdn]

yep, big price.

[tan top]

 look at  who bid ,   3 same bidders out bid their own bid a few times     to me that always looks suspisious 

[cavemanno1]

Well it's gone so searching continuous

Won't find a good car in my price range,will i?

[myk]

Not on e-gouge, anyway.  If you happened upon a local sale I would wager that it would be cheaper; none of that auction-madness that sees lesser cars going for more than they normally would...

[cudaken]

Peter, guess you did not get the car.

Where did you see the GTO? I just looked at what Gateway St Louis had and there where no 67's.

Far as you getting what you want for $24,000.00 more than likely there will all  wise be something that will need to be done. Main thing would be to know what you are getting.

Cuda Ken

[cavemanno1]

Ken,no i didn't get it!

That GTO is on Nashville craigslist but don't worry about it because i will wait for a charger!I know it is hard to find one for that price.I don't expect to find a reallygood one!As long as it has good metal work or engine trans work done I'm happy.
I have decided to put my Ducati up for sale to help me get a better charger!That extra 10k would put me in a better position but than again that bike is my dream bike so giving up my dream for the otherone is tricky!I guess we can't have everything and there are people who have bigger problems then mine!

Here is my bike for the bike guys!

[Bob T]

Cavemanno, get the best one you can for your dough and Be Patient! It will take time. It took me 8 months to conclude a deal. I remember reading the earlier threads with Veronika and how it turned out with the car, such is life man, take one on the chin and move on. The extra cash from the bike might make the difference to move into the next price bracket up, remember, Gen II Chargers are the most expensive B body out there. If you not set on a 68-69-70 Charger, you could pick up a Gen III for less $$ with more options or a Runner or Coronet with big block and 4 speed in better condition.

There's always more places to look, not just ebag, its too hard to try to bid on a possibly ok car there and get it inspected before the auction ends. The way I saw it, being a foreigner, I was committed to spending another $1500 or so to get it professionally inspected than risking my dough and getting a lemon, not bagging you bud, just how it worked for me. There are some agents around that will give an honest unvested report on a car for maybe $500 plus travel- if they say its crap, then walk away happy and keep looking.

There are a lot of people that will happily fleece overseas buyers and sell them nasty bondo disastercrap - but there are also a lot of honest American's who believe in a fair price for their fair car and I'm ok with that, its easier to pay a little more up front for a better car than a whole lot more when it gets to you  and its not how that described it to you. Also, as soon as some people hear the car will be going overseas, then they do not want to sell, or, when they hear your accent, they think its a scam and hang up, very frustrating. This is where an American agent can work on your behalf.

Try,
carsonline.com
forbbodiesonly
moparts.com

I also had a wanted ad up here and elsewhere, Good luck in your hunt, pm me if you want.
Bob in NZ

[cavemanno1]

Thanks Bob!

Kinda hard to be patient but learned to be because my 8 months old Man babies are hard but rewarding work!Would never trade those nights that i was awake because of him!


"Unfortunately" i am dead set on a '68-69'!Nothing else but them I'm after.Shame i like cars that are so expensive.My problem really is registration over here.Can't get a license plate unless it is registered as a classic car and in order to do it the car has to be almost perfect!Now i know i won't find a perfect car for 25k but at least i could get one that only need body and paint or engine and wires.We don't have garages big enough to work on the car so the only garage i can find is barley enough to open the driver door half way!Plus would drive me mad to have a car and not be able to drive it because it would take years to make her Right.

Well we will see what will come up!
Thanks for the advise and the encouraging.Won't give up on my dream,never do!

Thanks,

Peter

[1974dodgecharger]

25k, you might be able to take mine lol.....maybe.

[cavemanno1]

Don't think you would sell it so let's not joke about it,besides she is way too nice for 25K!

One day i will have mine again!

[1974dodgecharger]

Your being generous you be surprised what offered me on my car and say, 'well the big tires take the price down 2k, the non OEM paint job is another 2500 deducted, the guages dont work thats 500 deducted, next thing I know they say I will offer you a 'generous 10k' to take this off your hands becuase its so modified that its hard to sell 

I quit telling folks I have a hotchkis suspension they try to deduct 3k from that alone.....

people make me laugh.................

[myk]

25k, you might be able to take mine lol.....maybe.

Oh you!     That car is probably worth in the middle 30's; 30K at the very LEAST...

[1974dodgecharger]

oh Myk your being generous becuase we are forum friends    

That reminds me mopar nationals in April they told me at the club meeting man in Vegas 6 hours from you and 6 hours for me to get there with my club.  You should go man....