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The Dukes Ride Again on CMT - what will this do to the values of 1969 Chargers?

Started by XS29L9Bxxxxxx, December 29, 2013, 12:32:21 PM

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JB400

I'm all for seeing the Dukes on tv again.  It's much better than the crap that's on now. 

I doubt that it'll raise the value of ours any.  But, since it's been almost 10 years since that bad set of movies, it'll introduce a new audience to our cars, which is what it has done ever time reruns have been shown.

Lord Warlock

Probably my error, thought it was being remade, not running the same shows in higher detail.  Running the same shows over again won't increase value at all, may get a few more GL fans though, for those that missed it the first 400000 times its aired.  (we still get reruns where i live)
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myk

Quote from: hatersaurusrex on December 29, 2013, 09:45:54 PM
TNN showed the original Dukes for several years back in the late '90's.

Me and all the dudes in my dorm cut class the day it aired, and gathered in my dorm room to watch it.   We named our intramental softball team the 'Hazzard County Boys'



I remember setting my VCR to tape TNN every day for that show...

c00nhunterjoe

Quote from: myk on December 29, 2013, 05:29:55 PM
Meh, give me Airwolf or Blue Thunder in HD...

Hell yeah!!! I have all 4 seasons of airwolf remastered on dvd AND the made for tv movie on bluray!!!

XS29L9Bxxxxxx

Quote from: myk on December 30, 2013, 04:09:47 AM

I remember setting my VCR to tape TNN every day for that show...

Yeah, really - what a colossal waste of time, recording those episodes on VHS. I have them all, with hand written descriptions for each episode. Now, I don't think I even have a working VHS player any more. Again, what a waste!  :RantExplode:

XS29L9Bxxxxxx

Quote from: stroker400 wedge on December 30, 2013, 01:27:33 AM
I'm all for seeing the Dukes on tv again.  It's much better than the crap that's on now. 

I doubt that it'll raise the value of ours any.  But, since it's been almost 10 years since that bad set of movies, it'll introduce a new audience to our cars, which is what it has done ever time reruns have been shown.


You know, there is a show on tv right now called "Modern Family", which I caught a few minutes of the other day. No thanks, never again!!  :eek2: I'll take that good 'ol backwoods Hazzard Family over some interpretation of "modern", any day!!  :Twocents: The dumbing of society

Ghoste

Yes, much much better program than the crap out now.  Corny?  Maybe, but see through 30 minutes of Honey Boo Boo or Dance Moms.

XS29L9Bxxxxxx

Quote from: Lord Warlock on December 30, 2013, 01:31:04 AM
Probably my error, thought it was being remade, not running the same shows in higher detail.  Running the same shows over again won't increase value at all, may get a few more GL fans though, for those that missed it the first 400000 times its aired.  (we still get reruns where i live)

I do think the values will go up and the overall demand for Dodge Chargers :Twocents: A whole new generation will be able to see this show, and the star of the show, The General Lee   :yesnod:

Ghoste

Disagree, the people who will be watching it will 90% have no interst in actually getting the car even if they think it would be cool to have one.  The amount of new exposure will be very small.  The show has been re-run twice, had a pair of made for tv movies had a big screen feature and a straight to dvd movie.  It is a very well known franchise.  Of the handful who would fall into this new exposure, only a handful will want the car and of that handful, only a handful will be able to afford it.
There simply won't be enough numbers of people jumping in to affect value.

XS29L9Bxxxxxx

Quote from: Ghoste on December 30, 2013, 11:15:00 AMOf the handful who would fall into this new exposure, only a handful will want the car and of that handful, only a handful will be able to afford it.

:iagree: I agree with that idea, but to a great extent, parents today just buy their kids whatever car they want, unlike in the 1980s, or even in 1996 when it was originally re-aired on TNN.  :Twocents:

Ghoste

It still isn't going to happen in the numbers needed to make prices go up.

Mike DC

  

The great overwhelming majority of modern kids don't want 45yo cars, even when they look cool.  These cars are ancient consumer products with shitty build quality, no options, and they fall apart fast.  Seeing a cool 1969 car doesn't make then want it, it makes them want a modern version of it. 


To a kid born in 1996, a 1980s 5.0 Mustang is old enough to be "classic".  They grew up in suburbia with paved roads & franchise stores as far as the eye can see.  Ipods are literally outdated to them already.  To most of them, a car's sound system is severely outdated if it only plays CDs and doesn't have a data port for the handheld stuff.  

The fictional world of that TV show is getting almost as far removed from their life experience as the Wild West was to us.  A car like the General Lee is cool but they won't form the attachment that we did, not in big numbers.  It's probably not much more relatable to them as a production passenger car than the Batmobile.  

 

myk

Quote from: Ghoste on December 30, 2013, 11:15:00 AM
Disagree, the people who will be watching it will 90% have no interst in actually getting the car even if they think it would be cool to have one.  The amount of new exposure will be very small.  The show has been re-run twice, had a pair of made for tv movies had a big screen feature and a straight to dvd movie.  It is a very well known franchise.  Of the handful who would fall into this new exposure, only a handful will want the car and of that handful, only a handful will be able to afford it.
There simply won't be enough numbers of people jumping in to affect value.


The key in Ghoste's statement is the money factor.  When DOH made a resurgence in the 90's, muscle cars like Dodge Chargers were relatively cheap; looking back on things now it seemed like people couldn't give them away.  It wasn't hard for me, then a high school graduate, to work a summer at McDonald's and have enough money to buy a solid, daily-driver Charger.  I got my DOH fix rather easily.  Today however, even if another DOH run gathered a lot of fandom, only the well-heeled would be able to duplicate what I did back in the 90's.

Another point that I want to bring up is options.  Back in the late 80's, early 90's, the world of cars wasn't very exciting, at least it wasn't to me.  If you wanted a cheap, performance oriented car it was either a Mustang or a Camaro OR...somethiing a little older.  These days, car buyers have over 50 years worth of inventory to choose from, and I'll wager that most performance car buyers will be interested in something much newer and probably cheaper than these classic rolling pieces of iron and steel...

Brock Lee

How long was it off the air? I watched it on TV at a hotel 2 years ago.

XS29L9Bxxxxxx

Quote from: Brock Lee on December 30, 2013, 10:35:57 PM
How long was it off the air? I watched it on TV at a hotel 2 years ago.

It's been an on again, off again kinda deal... Not like 1996 though, when it was on every night  :2thumbs:

Ghoste

And I think the 96 resurgence was the first in a while was it not?  It has only been since then that it was on and off again?

JB400

It seems that CMT puts them on for around 3-4 months, then will pull them for a year or two, except for maybe a holiday marathon.  Then, they'll put them back on with the same cycles.

They also show mostly the later shows and won't show Coy and Vance.

Ghoste


hatersaurusrex

Quote from: myk on December 30, 2013, 08:52:50 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on December 30, 2013, 11:15:00 AM
Disagree, the people who will be watching it will 90% have no interst in actually getting the car even if they think it would be cool to have one.  The amount of new exposure will be very small.  The show has been re-run twice, had a pair of made for tv movies had a big screen feature and a straight to dvd movie.  It is a very well known franchise.  Of the handful who would fall into this new exposure, only a handful will want the car and of that handful, only a handful will be able to afford it.
There simply won't be enough numbers of people jumping in to affect value.


The key in Ghoste's statement is the money factor.  When DOH made a resurgence in the 90's, muscle cars like Dodge Chargers were relatively cheap; looking back on things now it seemed like people couldn't give them away.  It wasn't hard for me, then a high school graduate, to work a summer at McDonald's and have enough money to buy a solid, daily-driver Charger.  I got my DOH fix rather easily.  Today however, even if another DOH run gathered a lot of fandom, only the well-heeled would be able to duplicate what I did back in the 90's.

Another point that I want to bring up is options.  Back in the late 80's, early 90's, the world of cars wasn't very exciting, at least it wasn't to me.  If you wanted a cheap, performance oriented car it was either a Mustang or a Camaro OR...somethiing a little older.  These days, car buyers have over 50 years worth of inventory to choose from, and I'll wager that most performance car buyers will be interested in something much newer and probably cheaper than these classic rolling pieces of iron and steel...

I actually hope so.  Plus most of them will look at a Mopar's price then get a Chevy or Ford anyway.  I'm still amazed when I window shop Craigslist and you can guy a decent driver-quality Mustang for 7500 bucks.    As for me, the more obscure old Mopars are the better.
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myk

Quote from: hatersaurusrex on December 31, 2013, 01:00:58 AM
Quote from: myk on December 30, 2013, 08:52:50 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on December 30, 2013, 11:15:00 AM
Disagree, the people who will be watching it will 90% have no interst in actually getting the car even if they think it would be cool to have one.  The amount of new exposure will be very small.  The show has been re-run twice, had a pair of made for tv movies had a big screen feature and a straight to dvd movie.  It is a very well known franchise.  Of the handful who would fall into this new exposure, only a handful will want the car and of that handful, only a handful will be able to afford it.
There simply won't be enough numbers of people jumping in to affect value.


The key in Ghoste's statement is the money factor.  When DOH made a resurgence in the 90's, muscle cars like Dodge Chargers were relatively cheap; looking back on things now it seemed like people couldn't give them away.  It wasn't hard for me, then a high school graduate, to work a summer at McDonald's and have enough money to buy a solid, daily-driver Charger.  I got my DOH fix rather easily.  Today however, even if another DOH run gathered a lot of fandom, only the well-heeled would be able to duplicate what I did back in the 90's.

Another point that I want to bring up is options.  Back in the late 80's, early 90's, the world of cars wasn't very exciting, at least it wasn't to me.  If you wanted a cheap, performance oriented car it was either a Mustang or a Camaro OR...somethiing a little older.  These days, car buyers have over 50 years worth of inventory to choose from, and I'll wager that most performance car buyers will be interested in something much newer and probably cheaper than these classic rolling pieces of iron and steel...

I actually hope so.  Plus most of them will look at a Mopar's price then get a Chevy or Ford anyway.  I'm still amazed when I window shop Craigslist and you can guy a decent driver-quality Mustang for 7500 bucks.    As for me, the more obscure old Mopars are the better.


TELL ME ABOUT IT.  I ran into a dude who had a pretty nice '67 Fastback; it wasn't anything special with a 289, automatic, non-matching-numbers, but it had a full resto-mod suspension, nice 17" TT D's, a fresh interior and perfect paint/body.  The kicker?  He picked it up for $8500 from a $9700 asking price.  A Charger, a Mopar, in the condition that Mustang is in would fetch four or five times that price...

hatersaurusrex

Quote from: myk on December 31, 2013, 01:37:05 AM
Quote from: hatersaurusrex on December 31, 2013, 01:00:58 AM
Quote from: myk on December 30, 2013, 08:52:50 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on December 30, 2013, 11:15:00 AM
Disagree, the people who will be watching it will 90% have no interst in actually getting the car even if they think it would be cool to have one.  The amount of new exposure will be very small.  The show has been re-run twice, had a pair of made for tv movies had a big screen feature and a straight to dvd movie.  It is a very well known franchise.  Of the handful who would fall into this new exposure, only a handful will want the car and of that handful, only a handful will be able to afford it.
There simply won't be enough numbers of people jumping in to affect value.


The key in Ghoste's statement is the money factor.  When DOH made a resurgence in the 90's, muscle cars like Dodge Chargers were relatively cheap; looking back on things now it seemed like people couldn't give them away.  It wasn't hard for me, then a high school graduate, to work a summer at McDonald's and have enough money to buy a solid, daily-driver Charger.  I got my DOH fix rather easily.  Today however, even if another DOH run gathered a lot of fandom, only the well-heeled would be able to duplicate what I did back in the 90's.

Another point that I want to bring up is options.  Back in the late 80's, early 90's, the world of cars wasn't very exciting, at least it wasn't to me.  If you wanted a cheap, performance oriented car it was either a Mustang or a Camaro OR...somethiing a little older.  These days, car buyers have over 50 years worth of inventory to choose from, and I'll wager that most performance car buyers will be interested in something much newer and probably cheaper than these classic rolling pieces of iron and steel...

I actually hope so.  Plus most of them will look at a Mopar's price then get a Chevy or Ford anyway.  I'm still amazed when I window shop Craigslist and you can guy a decent driver-quality Mustang for 7500 bucks.    As for me, the more obscure old Mopars are the better.


TELL ME ABOUT IT.  I ran into a dude who had a pretty nice '67 Fastback; it wasn't anything special with a 289, automatic, non-matching-numbers, but it had a full resto-mod suspension, nice 17" TT D's, a fresh interior and perfect paint/body.  The kicker?  He picked it up for $8500 from a $9700 asking price.  A Charger, a Mopar, in the condition that Mustang is in would fetch four or five times that price...

Lol yeah.  By the time I'm done I'll have close to $50K in a car I couldn't sell the next day for 20.   Hell I'm already 20K in (if you count tools I've bought just for the resto) and it's just now done with the sheet metal.  I've still got interior, paint, drivetrain, and rolling stock to go.   Every time I look at one of the Legendary door panel uppers at $450 I think about how many complete cars I've owned for less than a pair of freaking door pads cost.
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myk

Just think long term man, the payoff will be worth it.

Personally, I plan to be buried in my Charger, but for the sake of discussion if I had to do the classic car thing again it'd be with a 60's Mustang all day long; I'd have the perfect street machine for what it costs to buy a freaking 4 speed Mopar console and a couple of armrest bases...

1974dodgecharger

Quote from: myk on December 31, 2013, 02:03:24 AM
Just think long term man, the payoff will be worth it.

Personally, I plan to be buried in my Charger, but for the sake of discussion if I had to do the classic car thing again it'd be with a 60's Mustang all day long; I'd have the perfect street machine for what it costs to buy a freaking 4 speed Mopar console and a couple of armrest bases...

lmao, man those mustangs are so freaking cheap to restore compared to us mopars lol....

Ghoste

If anything a DOH resurgence may lower the prices of Chargers.  Think about it, a small crew of newbies go online looking for GL's and the first thing that Googles up will be HLPAG under the latest identity so these dudes will be all over these things only to discover what complete and utter pieces of mushroom soil they bought.  With the social media in place that didn't exist in the 90's it won't take long for Chargers to get the reputation of overpriced rustbuckets and people with good cars for sale won't be able to give them away ultimately forcing the values to plummet.

Mike DC

There's also nothing to stop that from happening during the last 10-15 years, and Chargers haven't gotten any less popular in that time.