69 rt on ozzy ebay

[polywideblock]

for those whingeing about prices of project cars take a look what we have to pay for the same  


                          http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SUPER-RARE-1969-DODGE-CHARGER-R-T-SE-DANA-60-SUPER-TRACK-PACK-4-SPEED-440-MAGNUM-/321280878978?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item4acdd52982

[Baldwinvette77]

Point taken  .... That does look like a nice car though 

[charge69]

Good lord!   It looks like a decent project but .... WOW! 

[moparfan53]

 R/T SE 4spd!
There are some things in the description though, that make me wonder.

- "THERE WAS ONLY 28 OF THESE MADE IN THE WORLD MAKING IT ONE OF THE RAREST MUSCLE CARS ON THE PLANET"
- "A34 : SUPER TRACK PAK W/4.10 RATIO with dana 60 ( a standard R/T would have 375 hp where the super track pack will boost it up to 425 hp) "
- "IT WONT TAKE MUCH TO PUT THIS CAR BACK IN ITS 6 DIGIT PRICE RANGE OF WHERE IT BELONGS"

[polywideblock]

he's just playing on the fact most ozzy's don't know what a numbers matching car is

just make up a story and someone will believe you   
 
   instead of asking they will later ague with you about how the seller said this or that as a n example  despite the point that its a 318 72 challenger by the vin , its a 72 R/t with its original 440 because that's what the seller said( had this argument  last year)   

there's always an expert that doesn't need to ask anybody .

[69 ROCKET]

$10K to $20K to restore.....yeah right, and the rest 

[fy469rtse]

It's been up a few times , he puts the price up higher each time, to do properly , needs at least , no actually not going to go there, what ever we think its going to cost , it's going to be a lot more that, nice starting point , nice options but regardless it's still a big job , can see rust holes through one sill , what's trunk floor like ?

[tan top]

think that's the car , that Hlpag were originally trying to sell ,  a guy on here was asking what we all think & should he buy it   year or two ago , have looked for the thread last time it appeared for sale down under , to link the two & study the pictures again , but was not able to find the thread ,  anyways it was B5 & painted satin black when hlpag were selling it ,   ,  there wernt many pictures we were studding  , one was from the driver side with door open , showed a pistol grip & 3 chrome ringed auxiliary gauges , sun tach on the column , it had carpets then  &still had the original front buckets  
if I come across the thread will post here  

[TPR]

I've been keeping an eye on this one too. It's been up for sale for a while.
Just Cars has it for $39k ONO here:
[are these the photos you mentioned tan top?]

http://www.justauto.com.au/justcars/buy_and_sell/for_sale/JCW3365267/?backurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.justauto.com.au%2Fjustcars%2Fsearch%3Fparent_page%3D%252Fjustcars%252F%26search_type_make%3D%26search_type_model%3D%26search_details_earliest_year%3D%26search_details_latest_year%3D%26search_details_lowest_price%3D%26search_details_highest_price%3D%26keywords%3Ddodge%2Bcharger%26search_category%3D%26search_location_state%3D&backtext=Back+to+results

It's located near me. Maybe I'll take a look just for the hell of it.
TPR

[tan top]

I've been keeping an eye on this one too. It's been up for sale for a while.
Just Cars has it for $39k ONO here:
[are these the photos you mentioned tan top?]

http://www.justauto.com.au/justcars/buy_and_sell/for_sale/JCW3365267/?backurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.justauto.com.au%2Fjustcars%2Fsearch%3Fparent_page%3D%252Fjustcars%252F%26search_type_make%3D%26search_type_model%3D%26search_details_earliest_year%3D%26search_details_latest_year%3D%26search_details_lowest_price%3D%26search_details_highest_price%3D%26keywords%3Ddodge%2Bcharger%26search_category%3D%26search_location_state%3D&backtext=Back+to+results

It's located near me. Maybe I'll take a look just for the hell of it.
TPR

noo they are not the pictures !!   ,
  the pictures i'm thinking of  are from the original hlpag advert & a guy posted them on here !   the same pictures appeared in a couple of different  threads few months apart   , different people asking is this a good buy etc  ,  if this indeed the same car( pretty sure it is ) ,  been looking for said thread , not found anything as of yet ,
yeah go & have a look , if not to far  !!  if the same car ,  would not stop me buying it if the price was right ( cheap )  least hlpeg have not worked their magic on it  & for every hour they have spent ( F**King it up , woops I mean restoring  , you have spend a week putting  , that hours work  right 

[polywideblock]

wow and I was only pointing out that even though you complain about paying what  10 - 13 K for the same car .

       if we look over here this is the price people expect for just a project     the price of a nice driver 

     that's why I look for myself 

[tan top]

wow and I was only pointing out that even though you complain about paying what   10 - 13 K for the same car .

      if we look over here this is the price people expect for just a project     the price of a nice driver  

    that's why I look for myself  

 i'm  talking generally about  mopar & charger prices now , not just this  particular charger ,  yeah prices are crazy  ,  i'll be damned if I would pay that much , would look for another hobby , or try importing one my self  , prices on these cars are nuts ,
I seriously cant believe whats being asked , think internet has a lot to do with it sometimes free advertising or only pay when its sold , so put up what price you like , only need one guy with more money then brains  , job done !! if you had to pay for  advertising  like in the old days before internet   week in week out  in autotrader , local papers , magazines etc  would soon drop the price if you never had a call ( although the prices of the cars have gone up & spending a few hundred advertising a stupid price is no biggie ) )  , ( we all try to make a bit of money on cars we sell , good luck to ya )  but sometimes  the prices that are being asked    don't know what i'm trying to say here & think I've gone off track a bit    ,  no offence ment to anyone or any sellers    
 just going to wait for my bus    

[polywideblock]

        none taken   

                     its eagle eyed people like you that spot these cars and bring their past to light   

[tan top]

       none taken    

                    its eagle eyed people like you that spot these cars and bring their past to light  

 
   after all this  ,   it will prolly turn out to be not the charger I was thinking of   Do'H  

pretty sure it is though

[TPR]

Lots of good points made in this thread. Folks here in Australia often pay a premium to get into this hobby. People want 50k plus just for XP cars, and 30k for resto's and POS cars, but in reality, it is often unknown what price is finally paid for a car if it eventually sells. I'm still watching cars that have been for sale for about five years.
Not sure if this link will work, but here are some examples of what I think are crazy prices:

http://www.justauto.com.au/justcars/search?parent_page=%2Fjustcars%2F&search_type_make=&search_type_model=&search_details_earliest_year=&search_details_latest_year=&search_details_lowest_price=&search_details_highest_price=&keywords=dodge+charger&search_category=&search_location_state=

TPR

[fy469rtse]

Nah tan top you are 100 % right, I remember the post too, same car different country now, I wish I could afford it,
In the right hands could be a great car

[Ghoste]

It almost makes me want to cry really.

[bjl69rt]

Seeing this makes me happy i went the personal import route.

[Bob T]

Lots of good points made in this thread. Folks here in Australia often pay a premium to get into this hobby. People want 50k plus just for XP cars, and 30k for resto's and POS cars, but in reality, it is often unknown what price is finally paid for a car if it eventually sells. I'm still watching cars that have been for sale for about five years.
Not sure if this link will work, but here are some examples of what I think are crazy prices:

http://www.justauto.com.au/justcars/search?parent_page=%2Fjustcars%2F&search_type_make=&search_type_model=&search_details_earliest_year=&search_details_latest_year=&search_details_lowest_price=&search_details_highest_price=&keywords=dodge+charger&search_category=&search_location_state=

TPR

Pretty similar to what the going rate is here too TPR

http://www.moorhousemusclecars.co.nz/vehicles.aspx

Hows that for ridiculous Ghoste

[don duick]

I have met this guy once, have not seen the car but was told about it before it arrived. He is a flipper trying to make a buck.  He is very polite and good for conversation. Im sure he knows he wont get his asking price he's not silly, he is trying his luck.

[buck0123]

This was my old car sold it on ebay about a year ago. Nice car but needed a lot of work. looks like the new owner added some things and took out the center counsel.  NON matching engine and trans.
Ran and drove good just needed a lot of sheet metal,  decided to sell it because it will be cheaper/easier to buy one all done or a rust free project.

Bill
NY

[don duick]

do you mind telling us what you got for it? If not I understand.

[buck0123]

$8500 September 2012

[don duick]

interesting thank you

[Vector]

Hi All,

I've been on the forums for a while but have not posted as I am yet to buy a Charger, I live in Sydney Australia (not too far from this car) and have been looking on and off for a 69 for a while.

This car has to have been for sale for the best part of 6 months for this price, I'm sure in an auction around August last year this car got up to about $20,000 reserve not met.

I'm just amazed reading your post Buck0123 that he bought it off you for $8500 so recently, if you don't mind me asking was the car already in Australia or has he had to ship it etc ?

[polywideblock]

it's definitely cheaper in the long run to find one yourself and import it       leaves out the middle man(flipper) 

its the only way i'll ever do it , see to many "mark ups " over here  everyone's trying to make a buck

[buck0123]

The car was in NY state for many years before I bought it. Was a local car the guy would never sell it until he ran into some money/legal issues. When I sold it in 2012 it was transported by trucking company to nj for shipping.

[Challenger340]

Supply and Demand at work in the Marketplace ?

Not like it's a Toyota... there will be a few thousand more of those worldwide by tomorrow ?

[Vector]

The car was in NY state for many years before I bought it. Was a local car the guy would never sell it until he ran into some money/legal issues. When I sold it in 2012 it was transported by trucking company to nj for shipping.

Thanks for that, so he's spend quite a bit in transport to get it here, it probably owes him about $15,000 now give or take a bit, the Aussie dollar was above parody late 2012, so there would have been no loss in exchange rates.

[Vector]

it's definitely cheaper in the long run to find one yourself and import it       leaves out the middle man(flipper) 

its the only way i'll ever do it , see to many "mark ups " over here  everyone's trying to make a buck

It would be ok if they were reasonable with the amount they wanted to make when sold, but the markup seems huge, I may have to resort to doing this.

[polywideblock]

instead of "resorting " to finding your own look at as an adventure ,make sure you get the car checked out before dollar one changes hands and be patient     

can recommend an inspection firm or find your own  or someone on here      but get it checked   

[1974dodgecharger]

it sold as a best offer of 35k it seems ?

[Vector]

Supply and Demand at work in the Marketplace ?

Not like it's a Toyota... there will be a few thousand more of those worldwide by tomorrow ?

The market will dictate the price for sure, whilst there's only a few of these 68-70 Chargers for sale on the main websites in Australia at the moment, they are the same cars being re-listed month after month but which are not being sold because they are too expensive.  

The one which this thread was about finished on an auction quite a while ago for around $20,000, for a car in this condition I thought the seller had done pretty good with that but it was reserve not met. Months and months later its still for sale at the same price.

I also never discount the possibility some of these cars are for sale because the significant other "wants it gone" and the guy says sure I''l advertise it then, knowing full well it will never sell with the price being double or triple what its worth.

[Vector]

instead of "resorting " to finding your own look at as an adventure ,make sure you get the car checked out before dollar one changes hands and be patient     

can recommend an inspection firm or find your own  or someone on here      but get it checked   

My reluctance to importing myself in part is that I'd love to find something that had been registered at some point in time rhd.

I don't think I would convert one now that you don't have to, but if was done already done (even badly) it would be good, I'm counting on a full resto anyway but I prefer driving on the correct side for our roads.

[polywideblock]

its really not that hard     

[Vector]

it sold as a best offer of 35k it seems ?

Yeah that will be about the 4th time that's happened.

He's either doing something weird with his ebay listing or he's been really unlucky with people actually picking up the car, I suspect its the former.

I've usually found it listed else ware as well and that add continues on regardless of it showing as sold on ebay.

Just found this:

http://www.autotrader.com.au/cars-for-sale/1969-DODGE-CHARGER-RT-SE-JCW3365267/?backurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.autotrader.com.au%2Fcars%2Fdodge%2Fcharger&backtext=Back+to+results

[Vector]

its really not that hard     

With a car of this age I realise it wouldn't be *too* hard, its just doesn't seem to be done anymore on the 30 year and older stuff.

I bought a 68 Firebird back in 1993 and it had been converted to rhd in 1969, getting it re-registered was very straight forward as the RTA (at the time) still had all the records.  With all the changes to the rego system in NSW in the last few years I'm probably deluding myself in this regard.

Are you going to All American Day in Castle Hill this Sunday ?

[polywideblock]

working     have a good day   

[TPR]

39k is a massive markup from $8500 regardless of import/GST/etc costs.
As you said Vector, the dollar was close to parity in 2012 and it was probably imported with a bunch of other cars to cut overall cost.
If someone gives that seller $39k or even $35k for it, good luck to him, but I've seen dozens of 2nd Gens fail to sell due to insane asking prices like that.

Vector, it looks like you've been doing your homework, lurking around the forum and scouring the Aussie classifieds.
I was in your position last year and I was certain I'd have to import, before getting lucky here in Oz. Look overseas and even try to buy off someone here on the board.
You'll get there, but it takes time, sensible decision making and a bit of luck. Some advice though, finding the right Charger is like finding a needle in a haystack, finding a RHD one is twice as difficult. As Poly said, LHD is easy to get used to and part of the experience of having a Charger.

I should be at AAD this Sunday if everything falls into place.

Kelvin, it must be that the value doubles as the container ship crosses into the southern hemisphere.

Hey bjl69rt, start a new thread, introduce yourself and post some bigger pics of your car.
TPR

[Vector]

working     have a good day   

I'll do my best thanks for that, atleast you won't get burnt, drenched or both, nothing but extremes at AAD.

[Vector]

39k is a massive markup from $8500 regardless of import/GST/etc costs.
As you said Vector, the dollar was close to parity in 2012 and it was probably imported with a bunch of other cars to cut overall cost.
If someone gives that seller $39k or even $35k for it, good luck to him, but I've seen dozens of 2nd Gens fail to sell due to insane asking prices like that.

Vector, it looks like you've been doing your homework, lurking around the forum and scouring the Aussie classifieds.
I was in your position last year and I was certain I'd have to import, before getting lucky here in Oz. Look overseas and even try to buy off someone here on the board.
You'll get there, but it takes time, sensible decision making and a bit of luck. Some advice though, finding the right Charger is like finding a needle in a haystack, finding a RHD one is twice as difficult.
As Poly said, LHD is easy to get used to and part of the experience of having a Charger.

I should be at AAD this Sunday if everything falls into place.

Kelvin, it must be that the value doubles as the container ship crosses into the southern hemisphere.

Hey bjl69rt, start a new thread, introduce yourself and post some bigger pics of your car.
TPR

Hi TPR,

I'll be surprised if someone has paid that, good chance they've taken all of the add as gospel if they have, good luck to them though if they have.

I have been lurking (in a good way), I like to know as much as I can about a car before I make the leap and this forum is very good.

I'm absolutely in no rush, I'll enjoy the looking and the building, its all good fun ...... well most of the time. I'm really just after a non-numbers matching car in need of full rebuild so I can do the little things I'd like to.  I agree that finding a previously registered rhd 69 that is in need of full rebuild is extremely unlikely. I'll just keep lurking until something suitable comes along.....

If you get your car up there I'll come round and say hi.






 

[TPR]

This is interesting, a '68 for sale in QLD with a Hemi in it for $60k. Who wants it?

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/grange/cars-vans-utes/1968-dodge-charger/1035652841

EDIT: It appears to be one of the Chargers in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UI11uemVD4

Vector, yeah, come and introduce yourself if you spot me.

TPR

[Vector]

This is interesting, a '68 for sale in QLD with a Hemi in it for $60k. Who wants it?

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/grange/cars-vans-utes/1968-dodge-charger/1035652841

EDIT: It appears to be one of the Chargers in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UI11uemVD4

Vector, yeah, come and introduce yourself if you spot me.

TPR

I agree, looks like the  same car, I bet the owner doesn't realise that video is on youtube, definitely has all the good cars in the shed though.

Love the two storey shed, wonder what he's got to get the cars up onto the platform level.

[buck0123]

Car ran and drove when sold in september, went to NJ sat for months.  What happened in NJ in October???

////////////////Just in case anyone from the USA is  thinking  about buying it/////////////////

[tan top]

 

[tan top]

 

[Vector]

Car ran and drove when sold in september, went to NJ sat for months.  What happened in NJ in October???

////////////////Just in case anyone from the USA is  thinking  about buying it/////////////////

Wow, do you know if it was stored in an affected area ?

[Vector]

It looks very tidy in the pics and who doesn't love a hemi ?

It makes not mention of being an original RT or hemi car so I assume it is neither, if it was an original hemi car may well have an extra digit in the price also.

[buck0123]

Yes it was.

[Vector]

Yes it was.

That is shocking, its a good way to resolve their problem though, take the car no-one will buy to another country and make up a new history for it.

[polywideblock]

for some poor aussie to buy and watch rust to pieces in front of them      not only paying top dollar getting junk for the money   

that's why I imported my own 

[TPR]

Daytona clone in NSW $42k:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/dodge-charger-daytona-clone-/271372712532?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item3f2f12fa54

Pretty sure Matt is a member here, posts in the Aero section.
TPR

[1974dodgecharger]

Daytona clone in NSW $42k:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/dodge-charger-daytona-clone-/271372712532?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item3f2f12fa54

Pretty sure Matt is a member here, posts in the Aero section.
TPR

not bad price for a clone...I would love a clone.

[Tilar]

That doesn't look like a bad price considering... and according to a lot of people the license number would be just about right for me. 

[Ghoste]

Is that price Australian dollars?  Because if it that works out to just under 38k US which is a nice bonus to help with shipping, you should get on this Tilar. 

[Tilar]

lol, I can buy those license plates local... because at this particular point in time that is about all of it that I could afford. 

[Vector]

The car is back on ebay.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SUPER-RARE-1969-DODGE-CHARGER-R-T-SE-DANA-60-SUPER-TRACK-PACK-4-SPEED-440-MAGNUM-/380819385373?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item58aa9aac1d&_uhb=1

[don duick]

again