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murder Hemis?

Started by Cooter, December 25, 2013, 05:38:57 PM

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Cooter

" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

myk

Interesting.  Reminds me of the big-block Chevy/GM motors that help to start the SR-71, and the GTO's, G8 GT's and Camaro SS's that act as chase cars for Air Force planes; cars doing things outside of what their creators would have envisioned...

Baldwinvette77

Hmmmmmm  :scratchchin: i want to see v8 engines used to power a car crusher next  :icon_smile_big:

Ghoste

I thought it was a 455 Buick on the SR71 start cart? (not that it matters)

Baldwinvette77

Quote from: Ghoste on December 25, 2013, 07:13:57 PM
I thought it was a 455 Buick on the SR71 start cart? (not that it matters)

i was told it was a 455 olds....  :shruggy:..... Ah screw it, since noone knows, im just going to say they used Boss 429's PROVE ME WRONG  :nana:

Ghoste

Yeah, it doesn't matter does it?  It was big and had torque.

SAC

My two cents: it was a Buick Nailhead 401.  I read it in Musclecar Review back in the 90s!
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myk

Quote from: Ghoste on December 25, 2013, 07:13:57 PM
I thought it was a 455 Buick on the SR71 start cart? (not that it matters)

I've heard it was either a big Buick or Chevy so that's why I cheated and listed big block GM/Chevy in my post...

Baldwinvette77

Nailhead it is.... Mmmm Hijacked threads  :coolgleamA:


Ghoste

I wonder if they ever stuck a Hemi on a start cart?

ws23rt

I like this stuff.  The hemi is what first grabbed my attention as a 13 yr old soon to be driver.  :2thumbs:

Isn't there an old truism that's something like---Hemis don't kill cars- people kill cars  :nana:

Baldwinvette77

Quote from: ws23rt on December 25, 2013, 09:24:23 PM
I like this stuff.  The hemi is what first grabbed my attention as a 13 yr old soon to be driver.  :2thumbs:

Isn't there an old truism that's something like---Hemis don't kill cars- people kill cars  :nana:

Guns don't kill people... Bullets do  :yesnod:

Ghoste

I grew up in a fruit and vegetable growing area and at one time they used the old style industrial Hemis to run irrigation pumps.  I think they also had some of those hooked up to air raid sirens at one time too.

myk

Mega-horsepower air raid siren; NICE...

ws23rt

Quote from: Ghoste on December 25, 2013, 09:56:39 PM
I grew up in a fruit and vegetable growing area and at one time they used the old style industrial Hemis to run irrigation pumps.  I think they also had some of those hooked up to air raid sirens at one time too.

I remember that too :2thumbs:  I guess they were used for many things in the early to late 50s

Mopar440+6

Don Garlits firing up his 1952 331 Hemi powered air raid siren

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyuH4NP1E2c
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Bob T

Quote from: Ghoste on December 25, 2013, 09:56:39 PM
I grew up in a fruit and vegetable growing area and at one time they used the old style industrial Hemis to run irrigation pumps.  I think they also had some of those hooked up to air raid sirens at one time too.

Very true. A couple of local hotrodders were on a tin ( car ) hunt in and around South America and Argentina about 5 years ago. While out in the remote countryside they found a whole network of water pumping stations connected by phone lines which would start and run Hemis to pump water from sluice to sluice, uphill and across the plains.
Nothing had run for years apparently and they got hold of some guy associated with the system and did a deal on 12 or 15 Hemi's and brought them back here to rebuild for other hotrodders so I heard.
Old Dog, Old Tricks.

hatersaurusrex

Why would anyone use a Hemi over a 440 for industrial applications, other than the nominal horsepower gain?   
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Bob T

Quote from: hatersaurusrex on December 27, 2013, 12:48:54 AM
Why would anyone use a Hemi over a 440 for industrial applications, other than the nominal horsepower gain?   

Cause it was before the 440 was in production, best guess for the water pumping gig was mid 60's
Old Dog, Old Tricks.

Ghoste

And around here, those 354's were sold specifically as industrial engines to my knowledge. 

Mike DC

  
It is surprising that relatively advanced engines like Hemis would have been used for such mundane industrial purposes.  Those usages don't really call for their strengths.  

A huge-displacement low-RPM engine like a truck diesel would give much more power, and do it much cheaper.  We just don't put them into cars because we want a lightweight compact engine that can instantly adjust between a very wide range of power levels/fuel consumptions.  

Ghoste

Eventually that was what they went to but before that there was a period between the Hemi's and the diesels where they were using smallblock V8's around here.

Mopar440+6

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on December 27, 2013, 10:56:48 AMIt is surprising that relatively advanced engines like Hemis would have been used for such mundane industrial purposes.  Those usages don't really call for their strengths. 

A huge-displacement low-RPM engine like a truck diesel would give much more power, and do it much cheaper.  We just don't put them into cars because we want a lightweight compact engine that can instantly adjust between a very wide range of power levels/fuel consumptions.

You may have answered your own question. For a portable powerplant, a compact, lightweight unit with nearly instant throttle response (think generator switching on and off) may have been the most desirable option.

Also it seems that most of the industrial hemi's are early 3xx cu.in. models...
"If you cant fix it with a wrench, get a hammer. If that doesn't work, get a bigger hammer!"

dkn1997

ive heard of guys plucking flathead ford engines off the roofs of old buildings, seems they used them to power generators for large buildings way back when.  i have personally seen a flathead ford powered generator in the utility room in the home of a wealthy customer at my job.  had a period correct radiator hooked up to it.  this was @11 years ago.  although i didnt hear it run, it had a fresh set of wires and fuel filter on it.   automotive engines used for these non automotive purposes probably make excellent donors.  def not flogged and i suspect most barely ever ran at all
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