Combined resources on registries.......... Just a thought.

[hemi68charger]

Hey gang..
I'm not sure if this is appropriate, but wanted to pass along the benefit of passing along information to both registries, this one that Chris has created and The Charger Registry by Wayne Wooten. It's nice to have two sources of information, one in a specialty realm like here and one in a broader sense. Yes, I'm friends with Wayne, hence my thread. He's been collecting data about all Chargers for over 20 years and there may be information he has that other registries don't. I personally think it would be a great idea for all registries to communicate with each other. I think this would help in the action of filling in the gaps that one registry might have. I'm sure there is data; broadcast sheets, fender tag info, etc that one place has that another doesn't...........

In essence, I'd like to facilitate combined efforts for we're all in this together.... Of course, all this is up to the individual.....

Thanks to all that give their Hearts, souls, and time for this.......... i.e., both Chris' and Wayne.. I also see there's a '68 specific site... All these sites are a plethora of information and help............

Thanks also to the efforts of this wonderful board !!!!

Troy

[nascarxx29]

I had met Wayne years ago very nice guy and knows his chargers he been to the house once. And seen my 440 daytona.Wayne even personally called my friend with a beige 68 charger RT .To tell him how unique it was to his registry.Met Chris more recently and hes very nice also.And knows his chargers well.And has a 70 charger website.With these 2 clubs working together and sharing the knowledge.Its good for all of us

[Chris G.]

Troy, it's something Myself and Don have discussed in the past. Honestly, I don't think Wayne would want to do it. If you can get in touch with him and ask, by all means do so. We currently have more '70 VIN's registered than he does, and I don't see that changing anytime soon. This should be something he would want to do.

Thanks for the words Dave. I have met Wayne as well, and he is a nice guy.

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Definately sounds like a great idea.  I dont think there is anything "hidden" from anyone though.  Im sure, if asked, Wayne would help in any way he could.
Props to him for carring such a broad range of info.

I find it very daunting just to handle 1 year.   I'm sure others will agree.

[Sinister68]

Does the person who runs the 1968 registry on this board also?   

[Troy]

I sent Wayne several emails offering help a while back but I've still never talked to him or met him. I haven't sent in the info on my cars because, like other people, I see no benefit in it since the data basically disappears. I'd like to go to the meet this year though so I may send it in at some point.

Yes Sinister68.

Troy

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Does the person who runs the 1968 registry on this board also?

Yes but he's looking to get out of it......Interested?

[hemi68charger]

Does the person who runs the 1968 registry on this board also?

Yes but he's looking to get out of it......Interested?

What's involved Chris?

Troy

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Does the person who runs the 1968 registry on this board also?

Yes but he's looking to get out of it......Interested?

What's involved Chris?

Troy

Check your PM

[Blue Pentastar]

Well the only thing I see that could hang this up is Wayne has promised consistantly over the years not to give out any information about anyone in the registry. I would expect that to be the big hold up because anyone who has met Wayne. he is a man who holds his word as one of his very valuable assets. Now we all know he is a very busy man who is away from home probably more than not so I know he sometimes does not get back to people as quickly as he would like. And if the message gets lost before he gets home he might not get back to you at all. It is best to keep trying on your own. When you do get a hold of him he will generally spend as much time as you want talking to you within reason talking.

Do remember he gets people offering to help him all the time. Not all of have the same reason to want to help.
We have all been burned before and he has on many occasions and by people he trusted.

Just my .02

Mike

[hemi68charger]

Well the only thing I see that could hang this up is Wayne has promised consistantly over the years not to give out any information about anyone in the registry. I would expect that to be the big hold up because anyone who has met Wayne. he is a man who holds his word as one of his very valuable assets. Now we all know he is a very busy man who is away from home probably more than not so I know he sometimes does not get back to people as quickly as he would like. And if the message gets lost before he gets home he might not get back to you at all. It is best to keep trying on your own. When you do get a hold of him he will generally spend as much time as you want talking to you within reason talking.

Do remember he gets people offering to help him all the time. Not all of have the same reason to want to help.
We have all been burned before and he has on many occasions and by people he trusted.

Just my .02

Mike

Exactly, I'm right with Wayne on this.. What I was thinking was VIN info. Let's just say Chris had 300+ Vin's and Wayne had 3000+. But there were 100 or so that the other didn't have.. You could exchange VIN's, but no personal info, hence increasing the database of both..... Wayne is a walking dynamo of Charger history..... Again, I in no way would wish to exchange any personal info, just get a larger picture of the cars that are still out there and option details....

Wayne's been doing this so long and to me deserves the title of King Charger of all the Registries.... What I like is that if he has anything on your car, he'll discuss it with you without any expectations, unlike some......

Troy

[XS29J8]

Does the person who runs the 1968 registry on this board also?

Yes but he's looking to get out of it......Interested?

What's involved Chris?

Troy

Check your PM

Hi Troy, haven't talked in a long time! I hope you pursue the 68 Charger Registry as I am frustrated with seeing the two Chris' sites doing so well and the 68 site in limbo! The 68 being the best looking automobile ever produced should get the same recognition!! If I can help any way just email me, I'll help all I can, I just can't put enough time into it to give it the dedication it deserves. Keep us posted as to what is happening!

Steve

[JimShine]

Troy, if you are interested in taking over the registry I started, let me know. I will give you all the submissions I have. You can do as you please with the site and the info. I really wanted to make it happen, but my computer skills are lacking. On top of all that I am now involved in another web project already started that is taking away my free time. I just would like to see it go to someone more skilled than I and that will make it happen.

[JimShine]

PS- I am sorry if I frustrated you guys. Believe me, my intentions were only good. I really thought I could make my vision happen, but again, my skills just would not make my personal vision come true, so I lost hope. It is time for someone else with a vision and the means to make that vision happen to take the keys. Again, I apologize.

[Chris G.]

Jim, you don't need to be the greatest computer guy to do this. I am by no means a computer know it all.

The best thing I ever did was ask Don (DodgeDon) to come on board when I first started this thing. Since then we (as partners) have progressed so much in learning about these cars and making the site your one stop shop for anything '70 Charger related. If you can find someone that has the same passion for these cars as you do, then it can be much easier to do.


And someone tell Steve that the '68 was not the best looking automobile ever produced. 

If Troy decides to do this, that would be great. The '68 needs to be done.

[JimShine]

I had a vision for the registry. It was something that could have been pulled off, but I couldn't do it and I couldn't afford to hire someone to make it the way I wanted it. I had some very generous guys here try to help, but in the end it just could not be ironed out. Unfortunately I didn't want to veer from my vision. I am stubborn. This is played into my decision to let it go. The other thing is I just will not have the time to give the registry it deserves with this new project. If someone decides to step up and take it, if they are willing to allow me to stick around so maybe someday I can contribute, I would love it, but whoever takes it, it will be their baby and that is their decision to make.

[hemi68charger]

Jim, you don't need to be the greatest computer guy to do this. I am by no means a computer know it all.

The best thing I ever did was ask Don (DodgeDon) to come on board when I first started this thing. Since then we (as partners) have progressed so much in learning about these cars and making the site your one stop shop for anything '70 Charger related. If you can find someone that has the same passion for these cars as you do, then it can be much easier to do.


And someone tell Steve that the '68 was not the best looking automobile ever produced. 

If Troy decides to do this, that would be great. The '68 needs to be done.

Well, in regards to the "best" looking 2nd generation, I couldn't decide, so I have all three !!!! 

Troy

[hemi68charger]

Troy, if you are interested in taking over the registry I started, let me know. I will give you all the submissions I have. You can do as you please with the site and the info. I really wanted to make it happen, but my computer skills are lacking. On top of all that I am now involved in another web project already started that is taking away my free time. I just would like to see it go to someone more skilled than I and that will make it happen.

If you let me know what the do's and don't's are, I'd give it a shot and Steve, guess what,,,, since you think '68's are the greatest, you're now vice-mod... 

If I do this, I would very much like to have a very close connection with all the registries......
Troy

[ChargerHound69]

What is involved in runnig the 68 registry.  I would like to help out if you would like.  Just let me know what you need done.

[ChargerHound69]

As far as a combined resource, it is common sense.  These sites need to be together to iron out what is left out there.  I see chargers all the time, and I sure many of you do to.  These # need to be documented just to show how many are out there.

[XS29J8]

Troy, if you are interested in taking over the registry I started, let me know. I will give you all the submissions I have. You can do as you please with the site and the info. I really wanted to make it happen, but my computer skills are lacking. On top of all that I am now involved in another web project already started that is taking away my free time. I just would like to see it go to someone more skilled than I and that will make it happen.

If you let me know what the do's and don't's are, I'd give it a shot and Steve, guess what,,,, since you think '68's are the greatest, you're now vice-mod... 

If I do this, I would very much like to have a very close connection with all the registries......
Troy

Ah yes another VICE to add to my list.............

The 68 Charger IS the best looking automobile ever built, look at all her siblings........

Troy see if Alan the other XS29J8 might want to help also... he seems to be very computer friendly and a great 68 resource.

Steve

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Steve & Chris...who are you kidding anyway?

Troy we can help you get started with some basic ideas.  Both mine & 70 Chris' registries are compiled basically the same way.   (Chris provided me with a template in Excel)  I took his idea and made it my own for the 69's.
I have become very comfortable with the program, although it can be time consuming at times.

[69_500]

To go back to the origional question I am all in agreement on sharing the information between the registries. I have wondered for years why clubs or people with registries even did a registry as they don't do anything with that information. I mean what is the point of a club of 1,500 people having a registry for something and then only 4-5 people have any access to it, and they aren't willing to give too much of that information out to you if you own the car in question. Just my .02 on the subject.

To me a registry should be about sharing information and tracking information to make it that much more accurate and complete.

[Chris G.]

To me a registry should be about sharing information and tracking information to make it that much more accurate and complete.

Danny, I can only speak for our registry here...We obviously won't be publicly giving out VIN's. We do however post how many cars are registered. We have updated charts/graphs about colors, interiors and drivetrain. We will also contact owners if any information pops up about their car. We have also emailed a few registrants when the car built before or after their car has registered. I believe we have helped a member here find and buy the car that was built right after his.

We tell each and every member that if they have a question about anything database related, email us and we will gladly answer it for them. Lately I have been getting email from ebay sellers trying to gain information so they can add it to their listings. It can get annoying at times, but as long as they register their car with us, I can't be mad at them. 

[hemi68charger]

To go back to the origional question I am all in agreement on sharing the information between the registries. I have wondered for years why clubs or people with registries even did a registry as they don't do anything with that information. I mean what is the point of a club of 1,500 people having a registry for something and then only 4-5 people have any access to it, and they aren't willing to give too much of that information out to you if you own the car in question. Just my .02 on the subject.

To me a registry should be about sharing information and tracking information to make it that much more accurate and complete.

I'm with Chirs...
If I do undertake the '68 registry, I'm going to ask any and all people to contact Wooten directly. He needs information direct from the owner. Anyone can come up with a "VIN", XS29J8B123456, so, he prefers to only get info from the owners, which I totally understand.. As far as personal info, no way... I know there are ways to connect with owners of certain cars, i.e., DMV and such, so this will be one less avenue to do so...  I've been contacted out of the blue about Dana and frankly, I didn't like it and I found out later that it was someone who knew someone in the DMV giving up info, which is against State policy..............  But, I'm getting off the subject here.... The best way to have a better overall "database" I think is to have anyone who registers their specific car to a specific site also contact Wayne, directly. But, that's just my two cent's worth...  Again, I've talked at length with Wayne about this and we both agree, even though he trusts me to the fullest, it's still better if he hears about a car from the owner, not me....

Troy

[69_500]

I wasn't trying to state that all the information should be posted online or anything. I like the way the 70 registry is set up. Full of information on the website, and I am under the impression that if someone purchases a car and contacts you and you have info on it, you would tell them. That is what I'm getting at. I don't give out personal information on 500's I have kept track of either. I have shared the VIN information with Chris and the 69 Registry though. But no personal information to go along with it. I didn't tell him where any of those cars are, or even who owns them or anything. If an owner tells me he doesn't want his info out there anywhere else, I don't share it.

[hemi68charger]

I wasn't trying to state that all the information should be posted online or anything. I like the way the 70 registry is set up. Full of information on the website, and I am under the impression that if someone purchases a car and contacts you and you have info on it, you would tell them. That is what I'm getting at. I don't give out personal information on 500's I have kept track of either. I have shared the VIN information with Chris and the 69 Registry though. But no personal information to go along with it. I didn't tell him where any of those cars are, or even who owns them or anything. If an owner tells me he doesn't want his info out there anywhere else, I don't share it.

 
Danny, that's exactly what I'm getting at.......  If you wouldn't mind, could you refer others that you come across to register with Wayne as well.. Too me it's very important to have a "central" point persay. All the specialty years or genres are great, but there needs to be some form of convergence.....   Hope I'm making sense...

Troy

Chris's,,,,, are you using a server for your sites on a FTP type domain or part of your ISP package?

Troy

[69_500]

Whenever I run into a fellow charger owner I typically point them towards one of the registries for the partiular year their car is. However I have also told people of the registry that Wayne does. Some people only want to do one registry or the other and that is their choice. I tell people about all of the registries, the one for 69's, 70's, 66-67's, 68's, B body registry, Wayne's.

[FastbackJon]

I haven't sent in the info to Wayne on my cars because, like other people, I see no benefit in it since the data basically disappears.

My thoughts exactly. With the '66/'67 Charger Registry, you register online (very easy) and you get an email back in a couple days telling you exactly where your car fits in to the list and how rare it is in a few different aspects, and then after a week or two, the online database gets updated and your car's information (not full vin, no names or contact info or addresses) gets put up and you can see that it actually went somewhere. Even better, you can sort the cars and narrow them down by location, or paint code, or interior code, etc, and you can view all of the other cars like yours. I think it is pretty cool anyway.

[hemi68charger]

I haven't sent in the info on my cars because, like other people, I see no benefit in it since the data basically disappears.
Yes Sinister68.

Troy

I understand people's desire to get some form of output from their input... I can tell you though, if you call him, he'll talk to you about your car once it's registered, again for free,,,,, so data on your car doesn't disappear. He may not be one of the top dog's in the computer/internet world, but he, like every other one of us still has a family and work that take him away.. All it takes is a phone call, the old-fashion way... The last 20 years he has personally dedicated more time per hour I would say on the Dodge Charger than anyone... I'm not here to defend him, but I do want to squeelch a persona that others have placed on him. He's even gone to great lengths to protect broadcast sheets that people have sent in....

Troy

[Troy]

As I said, I tried on multiple occasions to contact him. I realize that people are busy and I hate to call someone unless they are expecting it. I guess I have to send my info if I want to go to the meet this year. I'll do that whenever I get around to it.

Troy

[hemi68charger]

As I said, I tried on multiple occasions to contact him. I realize that people are busy and I hate to call someone unless they are expecting it. I guess I have to send my info if I want to go to the meet this year. I'll do that whenever I get around to it.

Troy

Troy, what Wayne has done is extend the deadline for registering... You can give him your info there I believe, but this Meet is for TDC members, current and potentially new ones in the next couple of months... For the dues of $35, I treat it no different than going to a local show in which you gotta pay sometimes $25-$40 for a weekend event anyways.. Not too many places you're going to get as many Chargers in one place other than the major shows and they, as we all know, usually cost alot more...
I'll double check with him on actually registering the car at the Meet and renewing dues.. Utilizing the Fairgrounds and getting insurance isn't a cheap deal..... Here's a link to the FAQ section of his site...

FAQ section of the TDC 20th Anniversary Meet

I truely hope people don't think I'm trying to alienate anyone or give the image that one registry is better than another., I'm just trying to help a friend out on a 20 year mission... I've registered in TDC and the other year-specific..

Troy.. I

[Troy]

The good part is that if I go to the meet then I'll finally get to talk to Wayne (I hope). I want to go any way and I might actually be able to make it this year. Just going to a Charger show is worth it and I'd gladly pay to get in as well.

Troy

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

I registered my car as well with Wayne back in '99 or so.  I paid my "dues" for 2 years.
The first year I got an old TDC shirt (from '97) and an old sticker (from '92)
The second year I got nada so I never reupped.

I think at that time Wayne was going through some trouble (or so I was told)

Anyhoo, he decoded my build sheet and sent me back an index card with some registry facts.
At the time in April of '99 he has 1640 -'69 Chargers registered!!
409 of them  R/T's with 122 of those 440/auto cars!

pretty cool info from back in '99.  I wonder how many he has now?

Basically my registry, as you know, does not & will not give out any personal info.  I can & have upon request & permission, given out info on amts I have registered in specific combos, put previous owners in touch with current owners, given out info if I had a particular car registered etc.

Sadly my site isnt as interactive as some others but one day I hope to gain the skills to do so.

Like I stated before, kudos to Wayne & his work and to all other registry owners for all their hard work......

Support your registries!!