ppg go green

[deanj309]

Hi everyone I've decided to paint my car j6 go green and do white top.but does 125.00 a quart sound right or can anyone do better on here for price.for 68 charger

[Silver R/T]

Email this guy on ebay, he can mix most PPG colors, he might give you decent deal. Let me know if it works out for you.
http://stores.ebay.com/wbmesq-ppg-custom-mixed-car-paint?_trksid=p2047675.l2563

[Pete in NH]

Hi,

PPG has a few different paint lines. At $125 a quart it sounds like the upper line Deltron series. It is very good paint and like most things you kind of get what you pay for. PPG also has Shopline a mid line and Omni which is a lower line. The Shopline and Omni series often don't have great color matching and coverage as compared to the Deltron. If you're looking for PPG make sure people are quoting the same paint lines. There are many paint lines out there but one thing is for sure good paint and supplies are quite expensive. It depends what you are looking for, a top of the line job that will last a long time, or can you live with something less?

[bill440rt]

Sounds about right.
IIRC a gallon of DBU in Sublime cost me around $400 or so. However, it has a big mix ratio that that gave me 2-1/2 gallons of sprayable material. And that did not cover the cost of the reducers. And, you have to factor in the cost of clear and the hardeners/reducers that go along with it.
As a comparison, I was not very pleased with their Omni paint line.

[spoolinhard]

Hi,

PPG has a few different paint lines. At $125 a quart it sounds like the upper line Deltron series. It is very good paint and like most things you kind of get what you pay for. PPG also has Shopline a mid line and Omni which is a lower line. The Shopline and Omni series often don't have great color matching and coverage as compared to the Deltron. If you're looking for PPG make sure people are quoting the same paint lines. There are many paint lines out there but one thing is for sure good paint and supplies are quite expensive. It depends what you are looking for, a top of the line job that will last a long time, or can you live with something less?

Shopline and Omni are the same line. Shopline is the replacement for the older omni.  As far as color match goes, if I were repainting a car with a color that did not have any mica in it, I would check into shopline. I would not use shopline to color match anything, only a complete repaint. I have always had pretty good luck with coverage, not too much difference in that respect from shopline to deltron.  As far as anything with mica goes, I prefer DBC myself. Would not use shopline for anything with mica in it. The shopline brand uses considerably less mica than the deltron lines, one of the reasons why it is less expensive.

[Pete in NH]

Over the past several years I've heard Shopline and Omni are the same and they are different lines. I've heard Shopline is a replacement line for Omni as well. Yet, both have been offered for several years. I've also heard PPG has different types of distributors. My local PPG outlet is an auto parts chain big in Vermont and New Hampshire, they are not really paint only distributors. So, I'm not sure how much they really know about paint other than one counter guy has been to PPG training. He tells me Shopline and Omni are different but, who knows. The local place handles Deltron and Omni but, can get Shopline from a different store. One thing I have seen is that the tech. data sheets for Omni and Shopline look very similar and kind of short on information on how to apply the products. The Deltron data sheets are much more complete.

[spoolinhard]

Over the past several years I've heard Shopline and Omni are the same and they are different lines. I've heard Shopline is a replacement line for Omni as well. Yet, both have been offered for several years. I've also heard PPG has different types of distributors. My local PPG outlet is an auto parts chain big in Vermont and New Hampshire, they are not really paint only distributors. So, I'm not sure how much they really know about paint other than one counter guy has been to PPG training. He tells me Shopline and Omni are different but, who knows. The local place handles Deltron and Omni but, can get Shopline from a different store. One thing I have seen is that the tech. data sheets for Omni and Shopline look very similar and kind of short on information on how to apply the products. The Deltron data sheets are much more complete.

I used to be an asistant manager at a platinum plus PPG store, the guys at the parts counter probably arent super knowledgeable . The deltron sheets are more complete because they are a product line that is marketed towards professionals, where as the omni/shopline is aimed more for the guy that is working out of his garage.

[Silver R/T]

Your best bet would be to buy from guy on ebay. Ive provided link to his online store, he does sell Deltron.

[deanj309]

Your best bet would be to buy from guy on ebay. Ive provided link to his online store, he does sell Deltron.

where di I find link

[70 sublime]

Email this guy on ebay, he can mix most PPG colors, he might give you decent deal. Let me know if it works out for you.
http://stores.ebay.com/wbmesq-ppg-custom-mixed-car-paint?_trksid=p2047675.l2563


It is in his post

[deanj309]

Email this guy on ebay, he can mix most PPG colors, he might give you decent deal. Let me know if it works out for you.
http://stores.ebay.com/wbmesq-ppg-custom-mixed-car-paint?_trksid=p2047675.l2563

Well I emailed him hopefully I hear something back
It is in his post

[Pete in NH]

I spotted that EBay PPG seller well over a year ago. I'd love to know what the real story is about what he sells. His Deltron prices are so much lower than everyone else. For example he currently has listed a Deltron base red for $146 a gallon. Red is always a very expensive color and I would expect that paint to be well above that price by something close to four times that amount for Deltron. That is a price I would expect for Omni/Shopline paint. You know the old story- If it's too good to be true, it's usually not true. I have to wonder what his paint really is. Omni/Shopline labeled as Deltron? Deltron mixing base with Omni/Shopline toners or really old out of date stock? I can't believe everyone else selling PPG Deltron is ripping everyone off. My personal opinion is I would be very carefully with whatever this guy is selling. I doubt many professionals are buying paint on EBay and would the do-it-yourself painters he's selling to be able to tell what's really in the can? Does anyone know the story behind this guy?

[Silver R/T]

I spotted that EBay PPG seller well over a year ago. I'd love to know what the real story is about what he sells. His Deltron prices are so much lower than everyone else. For example he currently has listed a Deltron base red for $146 a gallon. Red is always a very expensive color and I would expect that paint to be well above that price by something close to four times that amount for Deltron. That is a price I would expect for Omni/Shopline paint. You know the old story- If it's too good to be true, it's usually not true. I have to wonder what his paint really is. Omni/Shopline labeled as Deltron? Deltron mixing base with Omni/Shopline toners or really old out of date stock? I can't believe everyone else selling PPG Deltron is ripping everyone off. My personal opinion is I would be very carefully with whatever this guy is selling. I doubt many professionals are buying paint on EBay and would the do-it-yourself painters he's selling to be able to tell what's really in the can? Does anyone know the story behind this guy?

You should do a 20/20 report on this guy, let us know your findings lol
Honestly PPG is overpriced when you go and buy it from the store. Their profit margin is super high. This guy obviously makes a profit as well, not as high as PPG store would but this just shows you how much money they are raking in.
This is called WHOLESALE, PPG stores have high overhead to pay their managers, delivery drivers, etc, etc.
How do I know all of this? I work for a company that makes very high profits on machines that we sell, I only get my hourly wages. If not for ridiculously high profit margins our company would've went down under years ago.

I do bodywork/painting on side and I can give people deals cause I don't have high overhead and I get supplies at discounted price.
This guy obviously gets bases, tints, etc. fairly cheap so he's able to afford to sell this paint online fairly cheap. I did buy two gallons of paint from this guy and should be spraying it here pretty soon.
He does tell you that you reduce it at 1:1 ratio, just what Deltron is reduced at. You wouldn't want to reduce omni at that rate, its already super translucent compared to Deltron.
You can't believer that everyone else selling PPG Deltron is ripping everyone off? Better believe man, every business is out there to take your money, they don't run charity. If all the gas stations had gas at $5/gal and then station down the street would have it $3/gal would that make you suspicious? Definitely, but its not cause its bad gas, they're just able to get it cheaper.
Best thing to do is buy a pint or quart from this guy and spray it out yourself and make your own conclusion then. He told me that he carries most other PPG products as well, primers, epoxies, clears, etc.

[jaak]

I bought OMNI paint from the seller you guys linked.

I bought FJ6 Go Green, for 75 a gallon (Single stage Urethane). The activator was 45 a quart. I bought 2 gallons of paint and 2 quarts of activator for 240. It was enough to do everything on my car. I was on a budget, but I would suggest using the PPG paint the OMNI was pretty thin. According to the tech sheets the paint was suppose to be mixed 4:1:1 (paint, activator, reducer), but after the first batch I mixed it was so thin, I didn't use reducer anymore, just mixed 4:1 paint & activator.

That may be why his paints are cheaper....maybe they are already reduced  

All that being said, I was happy...car turned out great, and the seller was helpful. Like I said next time, I will spring more for the PPG stuff.

Jason

[bill440rt]

Jason, I did the same thing when I sprayed Omni Sublime. The stuff was so pi$$-thin, I ditched the reducer.
I sprayed Omni Spinnaker White which wasn't as bad but still much thinner. Overpriced or not it shadows in comparison to Deltron.

[jaak]

Jason, I did the same thing when I sprayed Omni Sublime. The stuff was so pi$$-thin, I ditched the reducer.
I sprayed Omni Spinnaker White which wasn't as bad but still much thinner. Overpriced or not it shadows in comparison to Deltron.

Yeah Bill,
No doubt OMNI is some thin stuff.... When painting the car, I also had to omit painting the roof, I was going to shoot a coat or two of color on the roof (even though it has a vinyl top), but I decided not to to make sure I had enough for the rest of the car. The roof did have a couple of thick coats of epoxy on it though, so I think it will be fine. As far as 'lower' paint lines, I have used Nason base before and it had good coverage.

Jason

[Silver R/T]

I bought OMNI paint from the seller you guys linked.

I bought FJ6 Go Green, for 75 a gallon (Single stage Urethane). The activator was 45 a quart. I bought 2 gallons of paint and 2 quarts of activator for 240. It was enough to do everything on my car. I was on a budget, but I would suggest using the PPG paint the OMNI was pretty thin. According to the tech sheets the paint was suppose to be mixed 4:1:1 (paint, activator, reducer), but after the first batch I mixed it was so thin, I didn't use reducer anymore, just mixed 4:1 paint & activator.

That may be why his paints are cheaper....maybe they are already reduced 

All that being said, I was happy...car turned out great, and the seller was helpful. Like I said next time, I will spring more for the PPG stuff.

Jason

Which sealer did you use underneath it?

[deanj309]

Hi everyone.I emailed the guy and he hasn't got back to me 

[Silver R/T]

Hi everyone.I emailed the guy and he hasn't got back to me 

Give him a day or two, right now its busy holiday season so sometimes sellers don't respond right away.

[Silver R/T]

Looks like this guy sells PPG paint as well, might give him a try.
http://stores.ebay.com/autobodydepot