70 petty/corporate blue

[rickroadrunner]

Is 70 999 corporate blue EXACTLY the same as 72-73 B3 blue? Has anybody actually compared the two?

[rickroadrunner]

Sorry guys, not a direct wing car question but I'm about to paint the Superbird and put this question under paint and restoration for 3 days with no response, so thought it better to put in Aero as I'm sure there may be some who could answer my question.

[odcics2]

I can answer your question accurately, later today, if you can wait a little longer...

I'll post a few pics, too.   

[moparstuart]

i dont think they are the same   

[pettybird]

Is 70 999 corporate blue EXACTLY the same as 72-73 B3 blue? Has anybody actually compared the two?

Hi Rick--

No they're not.  If you look at the old color charts they're a different formula number.  The problem is that the old formulas don't directly translate to the new paint bases and tints...is there anywhere on the car you can have someone do a custom scan and mix of the color that's on your car?  It really would be best to match what's on the car. 

[41husk]

Hate to high jack but does some one know the formula for FM3 ?

[nascarxx29]

Hate to high jack but does some one know the formula for FM3 ?

Maybe this site has formula info on FM3
http://www.pantherpink.com/paint.htm

[41husk]

Thanks very helpfull

[odcics2]

Maybe this helps - maybe it adds confusion:

There was a part of the #88 Engineering Daytona that was untouched and never saw any daylight since 1969.
The car was B5 outside and painted "Corporate Blue", as they called it, prior to the first Talladega race. To me, I'd call it
Petty Blue, since on the aerowarrior site there is a short film showing the car qualifying and it's next to Petty's Ford.
The cars look exactly the same, no question. You can see for yourself!

Anyway, behind the master cylinder I found the color you see below.  I happened to have a touch up can of Chrysler Parts paint,
part number 3621504, coded "72-73 TB3"  and named Super Blue.

It is a perfect match for what was on the firewall.    Like I said - this may enlighten or confuse. I'm just stating what I found and the color was laid down in August, 1969.   I'll match the color of the Chrysler Paint can cap when I paint it.

[pettybird]

Interesting that your color matches...I find B3 to be "brighter" than Corporation Blue.

Does anyone have access to the old PPG formulas?  Corporation Blue is listed as formula #12785 while 1972 B3 is 2423.  Both are on the '72 PPG chart:

http://www.tcpglobal.com/aclchip.aspx?image=1972-Plymouth-pg01.jpg


That number for Corp. Blue shows back into the mid 60's, which WOULD make sense as TB3 (since the "T" would denote 1963) but I can't reconcile the two different formula numbers.  IF that was the case with the "T," it would make sense that the formula for black would also be unchanged, but it did in 1965/1966.

I have a call in to Jim at TCP Global and I'm hoping to hear from him tomorrow. 

[Aero426]

Need to look at the tints of the old formulas to determine the difference.

[rickroadrunner]

Thanks for your input, I did a color match against a Glasurit color before the car was stripped and had it made up. When the paint company returned the paint they did not return the color sample. I have the paint but will not apply until I am 100% certain it is correct. I am chasing up the original sample to double check.
Meanwhile my painter made up some B3 Basin Street/Super Blue which many people seemed to say it was the same. We found the B3 was lighter, so hence the question as I did not know if the paint supply company made an error in the formulation of the paint.
We also made up some Corporate/Fleet blue today which is different again!
Pettybird, I may have to post you a color sample to check against your car before painting! may do this anyway as a triple check. Thanks.

[Aero426]

Good plan to send Petty Bird a spray out sample using your paint.

[pettybird]

Good plan to send Petty Bird a spray out sample using your paint.

Yep--actually sending me the different spray outs so I can compare to the bottom of my decklid would get you the closest.  I know it's airmail and all but it would be the surest way to match.

[DoubleDlover]

I still many of my original petty parts with color still left on them. Doors, fenders, I even think door hinges maybe, Its kinda a flat blue.

[JB400]

Has anyone just sent Petty Garage a request for the paint code?  I'm sure they'd be willing to help out when it involves a Superbird. 

[pettybird]

Need to look at the tints of the old formulas to determine the difference.

Didn't get a call back but I should have access to the PPG online tint formula page by Tuesday.

[Aero426]

Has anyone just sent Petty Garage a request for the paint code?  I'm sure they'd be willing to help out when it involves a Superbird. 

Corporation Blue isn't really Petty Blue.    It is just commonly called that because it is similar. 

If you want to stir up a lively discussion, ask model builders exactly what the correct shade of Petty Blue is.     There are different variations over time.

[DoubleDlover]

wow. well im so glad I have parts with the original color still on them now. Getting a color match to THAT shade should be the ticket for me.

[odcics2]

wow. well im so glad I have parts with the original color still on them now. Getting a color match to THAT shade should be the ticket for me.

Exactly what I'm doing....     

I can just say it's painted the same color it was originally!   Can't get better than that...

[Ghoste]

Is the Chrysler Petty Blue the same as the blue Petty used on the racecars?

[68X426]

Is the Chrysler Petty Blue the same as the blue Petty used on the racecars?

Yes. Richard "leased" the paint to Chrysler and collected a royalty payment on it.

[Ghoste]

Really?  Never heard that one before.  So another question, did Petty Blue remain the same on the racecars throughout the years or did that change?

[68X426]

Really?  Never heard that one before.  Somanother question, did Petty Blue remain the same on the racecars throughout the years or did that change?

Read it in an interview with Richard. He collected checks in every possible way from Chrysler.

Same color thru the years - it's in another interview with Richard on espn.com that he used the same blue all years, only change was after 1972 when STP Red was added to the scheme.

[v21hemicharger]

If you're looking for Petty Blue  look at corporate/fleet colors and look for Petty enterprises or Racing.  That's what I did for my Clone