Don't 68s normally have seats/consoles that match the carpet?

[bull]

You see so many incorrect restorations that after a while you start to wonder. I didn't dissect the fender tag on this one but it seems that they should have put black carpeting in it since everything else is black. If not wouldn't the console, console carpet, seats, door panels and dash pads be the same goldish yellow as the carpet?

Poor thing's got a lazy eye on the driver side too.

http://www.ecarlist.com/showroom/2149/photos/10731421#27

[bull]

Oh jeez, look at the VIN tag. I normally don't like to pick cars apart but this one has got some freakish screw ups.

[Ghoste]

At the very least the console carpet should match.

[bull]

At the very least the console carpet should match.

That's the thing that makes it stick out like a sore thumb. But if the console carpet matched the floor carpet the contrast between it and the console shell would look wrong.

Trim code is C6X so it's supposed to be all black... carpet too.

[Ghoste]

It looks pretty awful thats for sure.

[Homerr]

I had seen this car in ad thumbnails but hadn't looked at it.  Too bad they futzed up so many little details.  At first glance it looks like a nice car, but those details are pretty obvious.

A few other things I notice right away:

- jack under spare, probably missing mounting hardware in trunk after floor replaced.
- is 68 door medallion supposed to be red, or red/white/blue?
- overspray in trunk, but not covering up inner quarter panels
- wires hanging down under steering column
- air cleaner seems all wrong
- painted master cylinder

Mostly I just can't believe that someone couldn't be bothered to mask off the VIN properly.  It's a dead giveaway to start looking closer at the whole car.

CAR: Dodge Charger 2 Door Sports Hardtop
ENGINE: 383cid 2-bbl V8
TRANSMISSION: 3-Speed Automatic
TIRES: Unknown tire code
MODEL YEAR: 1968
BUILD DATE: February 26.
AXLE: 2.76 Rear Axle Ratio
INTERIOR: Charger Trim Grade, Vinyl Bucket Seats. Black Interior.
PAINT: Red (Dodge), Matador Red (Plymouth), Scorch Red (Chrysler), Flame (Imperial).
OTHER: Black (Dodge, Plymouth), Formal Black (Chrysler, Imperial) Upper Door Frame Color.

MOLDINGS:
25: Drip Rail Mouldings
30: Body Belt Mouldings
78: Wheel Lip Mouldings

ABC OPTIONS:

abc OPTIONS:
b4: Bucket Seats

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

Wow, that's awful 

[bull]

Mostly I just can't believe that someone couldn't be bothered to mask off the VIN properly.  It's a dead giveaway to start looking closer at the whole car.

That's only part of it. The 'decal' is not even the proper decal. It almost looks like they printed it using a computer, cut it out and glued it on. The area around the graphics is supposed to be transparent. Let's just say it doesn't look like this original one.

[Ghoste]

Lucky Motors huh?

[VegasCharger]

Mostly I just can't believe that someone couldn't be bothered to mask off the VIN properly.  It's a dead giveaway to start looking closer at the whole car.

That's only part of it. The 'decal' is not even the proper decal. It almost looks like they printed it using a computer, cut it out and glued it on. The area around the graphics is supposed to be transparent. Let's just say it doesn't look like this original one.

That's a sad looking VIN tag (the one on the bottom) Not even close to original. I'd be running to the hills.

[Mytur Binsdirti]

Personally, I prefer the carpet to mach the drapes.   

[maxwellwedge]

I was waiting for someone to say that! 

[wingcar]

Carpet has got to go as it's just crying out for black!  Overall it looks like a really nice Charger, but the whole VIN Tag thing has me concerned.  And, the Air Cleaner also looks really out of place...you would think they would try and find an older one to make it at least "look right".  Also makes me think the engine is not the original.  Buyer beware.....

[A383Wing]

bet they painted the dash and did a piss poor job of trying to mask off the VIN tag

[Mytur Binsdirti]

bet they painted the dash and did a piss poor job of trying to mask off the VIN tag

Which would make one wonder what else they did a piss poor job on. My guess is a bunch.

[69chargerboy]

What a half ass attempt of restoration. I wouldn't touch that unless they gave it to me and I can restore it correctly. 

[Dino]

Lucky motors indeed, you'd have to be real lucky to find a gem like that for a mere $45K....

More info and pics:  http://www.luckymotors.com/web/used/Dodge-Charger-1968-Elmhurst-IL/10731421/

[cdr]

they are advertising it as an R/T-------------NOT

[Troy]

Black or white interiors got black carpet.

Who in their right mind paints a PP1 (red) car gold??? Probably the same guy who asked for the carpet to match the body color. Of course, that fender tag has issues too so who knows what the original color was!

Other issues that stand out:
* no radiator support black out - which looks horrible on a lighter colored car
* whole tail panel is black (should only be the area within the trim)
* master cylinder is gray
* repro trunk floor that doesn't have the holes cut out
* looks like the pentastar emblem was painted body color - but it could be the camera as the color should be fairly close any way

Common mistakes that they avoided:
* engine bay is not black
* underside is not black (but it also shouldn't be completely painted)
* doors actually do have the interior color painted on the bottom!

It actually has the 68 only headlight bezels. It also has headrests which are reasonably rare for a 68.

Troy

[A383Wing]

one would think that someone should have put the turn signal column harness wiring back up under the dash where it belongs instead of letting it hang down like a tampon string

[Ghoste]

Sometimes in the course of a restoration, certain sacrifices must be made.

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[Ghoste]

So do you think someone will step up and fix the mistakes?

[Dino]

So do you think someone will step up and fix the mistakes?

Nope.  Do you think they'll correct the ad by taking the R/T part off? 

[A383Wing]

no inner tail panel trim either

I didn't see a price tag on this...did I miss something?

[Ghoste]

If they think the gold carpet is a selling feature then I'm surprised it doesn't 20 inch RT logos on the doors.

[tan top]

 

[Ghoste]

I thought 68's didn't have the trim panel around the lights on the inside? 

[A383Wing]

I thought 68's didn't have the trim panel around the lights on the inside? 

I'm not sure, I have seen more with than without....it just looks kinda tacky to see them tail light wires there...maybe it's just me

[Ghoste]

I thought it was strictly a 66,67 and 69,70 thing.

[68RT440]

It looks like there is bondo in the trunk floor...it looks pretty lumpy. And the hood was repainted too. Its lighter then the rest of the car. They also fudged the rear valance around. Look how wide the bottom of the valance corners are. They are supposed to taper down to almost a point at the bottom, but these are pretty wide at the bottom....

[tan top]

its not good for almost 45k    

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Charger-R-T-1968-dodge-charger-r-t-440-ci-v-8-4-barrel-automatic-/161165838357?forcerrptr=true&hash=item25863b8815&item=161165838357&pt=US_Cars_Trucks

[A383Wing]

plastic dimmer grommet on the carpet also

[bull]

Something's up with that left headlight door. Maybe the vacuum pod is stuck and won't retract all the way.

[bull]

no inner tail panel trim either

I didn't see a price tag on this...did I miss something?

I believe it's $44,900 which is about what you would expect if it were a lot closer to perfect. Not sure what it would cost to repaint the tail panel, radiator core support and the trunk but it wouldn't be cheap. As Troy said, why gold instead of the original red? Lots of other stuff to fix otherwise. Wouldn't be worth it at that price.

[Mytur Binsdirti]

The seller is Lucky Motors, but judging by that car it's more luke Sucky Motors. 

[moparfan53]

 I noticed it has a '69/70 style heater control.
Ebay ad says; "RESTORED TO ORIGINAL COLOR COMBINATION".  

[myk]

Something's up with that left headlight door. Maybe the vacuum pod is stuck and won't retract all the way.

The front end's probably been in a fender bender and that's the unfinished/shoddy repair work showing. 




















Do tampon strings really hang down like that?

[six-tee-nine]

look at the left side of the front valence.

I think alot of corners were cut on that restoration. Scares me to think that probably alot of these cut corners are stuffed with tons of bondo.

[Ghoste]

Well I hope someone can get it at a reasonable price and save it.  It's still a 68 Charger after all.

[Dino]

68's did not have tail light covers.

This car needs to be stripped down to the last bolt and started over.  Way too much bondo on that thing.

Regarding the grille door, maybe the magnet that holds it up is gone.

[Ghoste]

I still can't pry my eyes off that glow in the dark floor covering.  If a Charger falls into a bucket of ugly, do you have to put Aztek badges on it?

[bull]

I still can't pry my eyes off that glow in the dark floor covering.  If a Charger falls into a bucket of ugly, do you have to put Aztek badges on it?

No. The worst 2nd gen Charger is still 10 times better looking than the best Aztek.

[el dub]

 

Regarding the grille door, maybe the magnet that holds it up is gone.

Dino, are you joking with this statement.

[Dino]

Regarding the grille door, maybe the magnet that holds it up is gone.

Dino, are you joking with this statement.

Nope, in 68 the vacuum pods had a magnet on the bottom to help keep the doors open.  In 69 they changed this system and the pods no longer had magnets.  When the original pod breaks, the replacement wasn't always the correct one.

[HeavyFuel]

Something's up with that left headlight door. Maybe the vacuum pod is stuck and won't retract all the way.

I lost the struggle to not criticize others work.

The front of that car is a friggin joke.

Mines not perfect...but could anything else be miss-aligned or bent on the gold car?   Damn.

[el dub]

It's got a port list. Maybe the floor is crooked.