CHARGER-LAND!

[MxRacer855]

Hey guys!

I have no doubt that many of you have heard of this guy who collects and builds Chargers for people. He is located around Gurnee Illinois. That last I saw, he had around 16 or 17 of them... all in great condition (newer paint and all, do NOT look like junkyard finds).
The majority of them are '69's.

Such a beautiful sight to see every time I drive by! I cringe seeing how they're all outside though...

Jeff

[MxRacer855]

Another pic.

[TheAutoArchaeologist]

 

[MxRacer855]

Hey man, I'm currently an NIU student!

[remta1]

Wow they look in really good condition , I don't think they will rust outside as I doubt they have much metal in them

how do I go about buying one  ,hopefully they ship to where I live in Nigeria ,I just need a bank account from them to start the process.

[C_stripes]

Is this that ripoff artists place? Johan or Hans or something like that?

[MxRacer855]

Go to:

Truemusclecars.com

There's email addresses and contact information. I spoke with the guy before and know that he ships out of the country. They're between 25-50K depending on how you want it built. And you're correct, everything is completely gutted. I know that they put 100% fresh motors and transmissions in them, rims and tires, freshly paint them, new interior, brake lines and exhaust, and go through the rest of the car. The guy took me around the place shortly after these pictures were taken and explained everything.

OH.... and they're almost all R/T's!

Jeff

[MxRacer855]

Is this that ripoff artists place? Johan or Hans or something like that?

Not that I know of... this is Mr. Norms.

[Troy]

That is most certainly NOT Mr Norms. Truemusclecars.com is what was formerly known as Hans Luedtke Performance Auto Group (HLPAG for short). They are notorious scammers. They LOVE to ship overseas because the buyer has no idea how big of a pile of crap they are getting until it's delivered AND has no legal recourse. They have a loooooong history on this site and there are many threads about them.

Troy

[Indygenerallee]

Yeeep, Famous General Lee bondo buckets!!! Scammers at their best...

[C_stripes]

Looks like they claim to have a Mr Norms car. But for sure nothing else to do with Mr Norms...

[JB400]

Where the dreams of enjoying classic muscle cars go to die.

Just looking at the site, his inventory hasn't changed much in the last few years.  His prices are higher than heck anyway

The best you can buy
http://truemusclecars.com/subpage_0001.html

[skip68]

Run forest, RUN!    Anytime I hear Illinois it's always those idiots.   Scammers and thieves ×100.    The only thing they server fresh is bondo and bullshit.  They are one of the worst (if not the worst) places to get a car from.     

[tan top]

what the other guys say  

Looks like they claim to have a Mr Norms car. But for sure nothing else to do with Mr Norms...

yeah   ,  the last couple of years they have had a  number of black  69 chargers  that were Mr norms cars  , also  a couple of b5 blue 69s too , pretty sure we can call them     , one black 69 was originaly bronze , & was rebodied , there is a thread on it somewhere on here , they have an out let for their cars in California too I believe , a guy anvertises with exact same cars same pictures & everything   ,

[polywideblock]

if they are claiming to be affiliated with mr norm I can see a law suit coming up

have heard nothing but bad reviews about them(HLPAG) like everyone else has said turn around and run don't walk away 

[TheAutoArchaeologist]

Hey man, I'm currently an NIU student!

Very cool.  Lets hope we get into the Fiesta Bowl!

I'm out there all the time doing barn find hunting.  I could show you some stuff out there you wouldn't believe!

Did that guy say he is affiliated with Mr. Norms?!

[MxRacer855]

Sorry guys if I mislead anyone. I just came across that a year ago when I was searching for my '68 and thought it was pretty cool. While organizing pictures on my computer, I saw those two that I took and thought I would throw them up on here. I spoke with the people briefly about what they do there and relayed that on here. I know absolutely nothing else about the place.

From what I've read, I'm glad I never pursued anything with them and found my car elsewhere!

Jeff

[MxRacer855]

That is most certainly NOT Mr Norms. Truemusclecars.com is what was formerly known as Hans Luedtke Performance Auto Group (HLPAG for short). They are notorious scammers. They LOVE to ship overseas because the buyer has no idea how big of a pile of crap they are getting until it's delivered AND has no legal recourse. They have a loooooong history on this site and there are many threads about them.

Troy

Thanks for the information Troy! I live just south of Chicago (which is an hour and a half from that place) and get questions from people all of the time about it and don't really know what to say to them. I always told them what the people there told me and tell them to contact the place themselves. I'll be sure to mention what I've heard on here and steer them clear!

Jeff

[JB400]

No fault on your part   This just gives a nice notice to those new in the hobby

[hatersaurusrex]

Yeah it's pretty disappointing to come across something very cool and want to share, and then realize that what you're looking at is NOT what you thought it was.   Bondo or not, they're nice to look at.   Kind of like a girl with fake boobs, spandex, and a ton of makeup.   You think it might be fun to ride until you realize what's 'under the hood'

Thanks for sharing and welcome to the group.   Lots of great resources and people here.

[69charger2002]

Hey I live in Chargerland.. thats Trademarked! J/K. PLEASE don't associate my place with that sh-ithole. I love the comment about them sitting outside won't hurt because there isn't much metal left to rust. That's freaking hilarious.. I went and looked at a 69 here local a few months ago. Guy had paid 25k for it. 318 barely ran, rear end was SCREAMING. all interior was rattle canned black. I asked where it came from, he said.. oh this company that build GL's in IL built it for me.. Geez what a terd the car was. 15 spokes, paint cracking all over hood and quarters from bondo, roof drip channel was flaking paint off from bad prep. it was a mess. Even the carpet looked like the stuff you get on sale at hobby lobby for $9.99. It was sad

[billschroeder5842]

RUN RUN RUN!

This place is in Lake Villa, Illinois and I grew up only a few miles away. They do a VERY cheesey job and you will over pay for a rusty bondo bucket with a moderate paint job.

Careful.

[MxRacer855]

With everything you hear, it's wise to take it with a grain of salt. There's two sides to every story. We all have different opinions, right? But in this case... one would be extremely ignorant to go against your advice gentleman! Not a single post in defense of the quality that place produces. I wish I became a member on this forum last year when I was seriously considering that place an option. I feel like someone that would leave a concert early and later find out that a plain crashed into the venue. I definitely dodged a bullet when I found the beautiful '68 that I did down south opposed to grabbing a car from them.

Thinking back now, it's a lot easier to see the WARNING signs that were present. The guy told me that I could pick one off the lot and they would have it ready within 2 weeks. That included painting the car, installing full interior, installing the motor/trans, the whole 9 yards. Even then with my extremely limited knowledge with cars I thought that was really fast to do all of that work. I guess if it sounds too good to be true, you've got to assume it is!

[jessejames]

This guy is bad news!! Saw him at the Nationals buying another charger. Wish someone would run him out of town!

[remta1]

as the robot says......